Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

BA SCORE
91
outstanding
582 Ratings
Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
582
Reviews:
354
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
10.68%
 
 
Wants:
67
Gots:
44
For Trade:
2
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Photo of kojevergas
3.29/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle into Westlveteren goblet in Stockholm, Sweden. Reviewed live.

A: One finger head of nice cream lacing, good thickness, and fair to bad retention. Colour is a solid black.

Sm: Raspberry fruit ester hops, cream, caramelized malt, and I assume barley. Me nose is broken; sorry lads.

T: Fruit estery body alongside nice cream, slight chocolate, and restrained caramelized malt. Complex enough. Built and balanced well, just not bold or inspired.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with adequate but not overdone coarseness and thickness. There is some strange dryness on the finish that isn't really welcome considering the dying ester flavour that accompanies it.

Dr: Average range ABV, very drinkable, and of a high price. The quality is nothing special.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.3/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

The beer poured into the glass translucent clear and yet pitch black with a frothy yet low tan head which coated the glass from top to bottom.

The aroma was strong chocolate with dark caramel and a licorice note thrown in for good measure. The aroma had some distinct roastiness.

The flavor was chocolate, but dry dark chocolate. Caramel was present, but it wasn't a sweet and malty contribution. The flavor was roasty and the bittering from the roasty grains was harsh. That bitter harshness was not well done at all.

The finish was dry with lasting bitter expresso and chocolate flavors that lasted just a bit too long into the aftertaste. The body was medium and well achieved. The bittering from the roasted grains really detracted from the enjoyment of this beer. The flavors and finish were harsh and not the stuff of world class beer.

16.9 ounce bottle. Best before April 2010 (April 2010...5 years and I certainly did not purchase this yesterday! Perhaps if I had it would have been better, or perhaps I should have waited till 2010!)

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Photo of rderedin
3.3/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Photo of mully
3.33/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Black beer allow very little light in but some comes in around the edges. Dense khaki colored head creamy head

Minnerally nose sweetness was evident, some chocolate

tight, chaocolate clean tasting not heavy

light lacking not nearly as big as I had expected

good dark session beer not really strong in flavor

this was a decent beer but not outstanding.

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Photo of crossovert
3.33/5  rDev -19.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

500ml bottle, says Argang 2004, i doubt that is it's production year. The back has the date of 12 OKT 14 on it. Apparently it is from before 2009.

It pours a dark brown with hints of brownish red on the far edges. The head is sandy and tan and recedes with some lacing.

This one smells very fruity and alcoholic. It reminds me of a Belgian dark ale rather than a Baltic porter form the smell. There is a hint of chocolate that remains the only hint to the style.

The flavor is more porter-like but it seems a bit thin. There are strong hints of coffee and chocolate along with some dark fruits. Very, very chocolatey.

Overall it is a bit thin and watery for the style, not really worth the pickup imo.

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Photo of xav33
3.34/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Revisit #1

D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter
8.82 Fl Oz bottle (size?)
Argang 1997, absorbed 09/06
Medium pour in a tulip glass.

Poured black with some faint brown highlights. Absolutely no head or carbonation.

Smelt of strong molasses, raisins, smoke, roasted grain, moderate vinous alcoholic qualities.

Taste was upfront strong bitter stale bread, cardboard, and cobwebs with light molasses and dried plum sweetness followed by a moderate bitter cobwebs, tar, hazelnut and yeast bitterness and light molasses sweetness on a light moderate length finish.

Palate was light to medium bodied, oily to a dry finish, barely any carbonation, just a slight tingle on the palate, and lightly astringent.

Overall, it definitely tastes old. It's very interesting how it developed, although there is definitely a stale bread flavor. It aged nicely and is very interesting to try, with very subdued, balanced and intriguing new flavors. Past its prime though. Still enjoyable.

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Photo of Mar02x
3.35/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

We blind tasted this one during our monthly tasting session in the Mug (Dutch ABT pub).

A - A deep dark red ale, not hazy and no head. Just a thin foam ring.

S - A wine like kind of smell.

T - Malty, grainy, sweet -The body is full of flavor.

M - A medium carbonated beer and a light bitter finish.

O - A nice beer, good enough to try again.

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Photo of jcalabre
3.35/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I originally sampled this beer 6 April 2003. I am writing this beer from my notes.
This porter is brownish black, but remarkably light in body. I think that if I had another bottle, that I would lay it down for a couple of years. It's not in it's prime yet. I think it has a lot of potential for aging

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Photo of ArrogantB
3.36/5  rDev -18.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle $3.99. I remember reading this was a classic porter so why not. Black with a filmy head that laces the glass. Aroma is yeast and dough. Flavor is slightly smoky, roast malts, touch of chocolate. Not my favorite but not bad, worth a try.

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Photo of stevoj
3.37/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle from Boise Coop. Right in the wheelhouse for a classic porter. Dark, sweet and malty, pour has nice fluffy head which leaves streaky lacing. Nose is sweet malt, leading into flavors of molasses, peat and sweet malts. Classic porter.

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Photo of biglite351
3.38/5  rDev -18%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

My bottle was a 2004, so it was a 6 year old brew.

A - a bit of red showing around the edges. Light tan tight head that leaves basically no lacing.

S - a little bit of a wine scent at the start. After that there are malts and caramel or chocolate.

T - fruit, probably raisin, malts, butterscotch,synergy a little coffee.

M - very smooth. Nice thickness, but not much coating nor tingle or other feeling.

D - very tasty and smooth, but the sweet raisin taste would get a little old after glass number two.

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Photo of AndreasDif
3.4/5  rDev -17.5%

Photo of ElGordo
3.43/5  rDev -16.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2004 Vintage, purchased at A Southern Season. Pours a dark brown with amber highlights, topped by a creamy tan head that has some staying power. Aroma of toasted malt with a slight metallic tinge. The malt comes through rather roasty on the palate, with a bit of a nutty character peeking through. Very light notes of milk chocolate and oats. Body is kind of thin for a porter. Goes down easy, though, I will say that. Not a particularly remarkable beer.

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Photo of craftbeersweden
3.45/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

2016 Edition.

The beer pors clear, dark brown with a one finger high beige head that leaves lacing on the glass.

Nose: Roasted malt, caramel, chocolate, fudge, vanilla, hops and coffee. A soft, sweet and nice aroma!
Taste: Brown sugar, vanilla, caramel malt, dark bread and coffee.
Mouth: Medium body. Medium carbonation. Soft but little light texture. Sweet / dry ending.

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Photo of MrSeth
3.45/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a tumbler a brown color, but ends up basically an opaque black color in the glass. Thin tan head, fizzles out quickly - no retention, carbonation is still apparent on the surface.

It smells like a porter right away. But not much of a nose.. just some rich coffeeish and molasses with just a hint of smoke and hops.

Light-medium bodied, but seems light for a porter.. lots of carbonation grabs the tongue. I like a porter that shows this much carbonation, but it is really strong this time around. Medium rich malt flavor, but not smokey or toasty.. kind of plain in that regard. As far as the hops, it's vaguely hoppy. Not foward like an American porter and not as subtle as a British.. Eh.. it is highly drinkable though.

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Photo of jdhilt
3.46/5  rDev -16%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that fades slowly, leaving some lace. Totally black color. Light-medium carbonation and heavy bodied. Slight chocolate nose. Flavor is chocolate and roasted coffee, some bakers chocolate at finish. $4.20 for a 500ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

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Photo of tone77
3.49/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a brown 11.2 oz. bottle. Has a cola color with a tiny head. Smell is of chocolate, roasted malts. Taste is roasted malts, smoke, some chocolate, light sweetness. Feels medium/light bodied in the mouth and overall is a decent beer, but I was hoping for more.

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Photo of bulldogg915
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of olradetbalder
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of Reappropriated
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of aracauna
3.5/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The body is very dark reddish-brown with a head that starts to fizz but stops before dissipating, which it does, eventually. The aroma is light, mostly a bit of chocolate. The flavor is vinuous, a bit of raisin and chocolate followed by a faint bit of char.

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of DerekMorgan
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
4.12 out of 5 based on 582 ratings.
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