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Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Reviews:
351
Ratings:
572
Avg:
4.11
pDev:
13.87%
 
 
Wants:
64
Gots:
41
For Trade:
2
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Photo of Beer-A-Lot
3.65/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into pint.

A - Dark brown, nice 1-finger head.

S - Some roasty and bitter aromas. Very appealing.

T - Pretty smooth. But a bit watery and light (obviously with low abv).

M - Not a lot of body. In no way off-putting, just a little weak.

O - I had hoped to like this more, but it was only slightly above average. Maybe I'll give it a chance again in the future. After a long, tough day, it could be my palate is messed up. Others seem to like it more, so it's worth a try. Not bad, just not that great. (And I love the Swedes.)

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.97/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 2/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a very dark brown with red tint at the edges with a light tan head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of toasted malt and light chocolate. Tasted kind of understated on opening, with dark roasted malt and dark fruit. On warming a bit, the cherry, chocolate, vanilla and molasses started coming out. Great flavoe. Medium bodied with some creaminess. A quite nice low ABV porter. I bought this on a whim without great expectations and was very pleasantly surprised, will buy again.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The pour is brown in color with a small tan head. Some roast malt, dark fruit, and a hint of coffee come through first on the nose. A bit dusty and oxidized. Quite a lot of dark fruit, especially prunes. The flavor is fairly simple. Some roasted malt, chocolate, and tons of dark fruit.

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Photo of soju6
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Vintage 2004

A: Pours a deep mahogany color with a decent head that fades to some lacing.

S: Aroma of roasted malt, dark fruit, coffee and bittersweet chocolate.

T: Taste of roasted malt, coffee, bittersweet chocolate with some dark fruit. The is a mild bitterness and a clean finish.

F: Medium body, smooth with a rich creamy texture. Good balance.

O: Good drinker, quite satisfying. Nice beer to end the day with. One of the better offering of this style.

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Photo of bluejacket74
4.22/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, 2010 vintage. I haven't had this in a while (since 2006!), so I figured I would review this one again. Served in a pint glass, the beer pours dark brown with some ruby red tints, and a half inch tan head. The head didn't stay around for too long, and there's a decent amount of lacing. The brew smells like roasted malt, dark fruit, coffee and some bittersweet chocolate. It tastes like roasted malt, nuts, coffee, bittersweet chocolate, and a bit of dark fruit. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's slick and coating and very easy to drink. Just as I thought 6 years ago, this is a good brew that I would certainly have again.

Here's my first review of this beer from 8/19/2006:

This beer is a 2004 vintage. It pours dark brown with some ruby tints to it. I can smell roasted malt, coffee, chocolate and some dark fruit. It tastes pretty much like it smells, very good. The mouthfeel is a bit slick, but also smooth and creamy at the same time. The carbonation is low, and this is a very drinkable porter. This is a pretty good beer, I'd definitely drink it again.

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Photo of pisano
4.8/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2010 vintage

a: pours a dark brown with a short lived one finger khaki head. Nice lacing. Ruby red at the edges where the light comes through. Good clarity despite how dark it is.

s: milk chocolate and roasted malts with sort of a marshmallow sweetness

t: lots of malty sweetness with a slight roasted flavor, milk chocolate, a tinge of bitterness on the finish

m: light, somewhat creamy mouthfeel with light carbonation. Very satisfying.

o: I first had this several years ago and was blown away. Happy to say that this is still one of my absolute favorite porters.

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Photo of julian89
3.78/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Drank on 3/18/2012 after the GA Publix Marathon
Poured from bottle into pint glass

Appearance: A dark black color, quarter inch head with no lacing. Rapidly diminished so not a very good retention.

Smell: Not a strong smell, typical bitterness of a dark porter.

Mouthfeel: Simple frothy carbonation. Very smooth.

Taste: A good porter with light coffee and strong malt taste.

Overall: Not bad.

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Photo of davey101
4.12/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2009 vintage. 11.2 oz bottle with the larger style rectangular label and stick on rear label.

A - Dark brown body that allows a hint of light to penetrate around the edges. One finger light mocha head forms initially and dies down to some edging and a faint cap. Light lacing forms.

S - Initially its roasted malts and some coffee notes. Faint notes of port and red wine/fruits linger in the background.

T - Sweet malts, a bit of charred wood, and dark fruits. Theres also an almost citrus lightness to it. Some metallic and ash notes finish the beer off. Mouth feel is light and creamy with solid carbonation.

O - What an odd beer. It has some roasty tobacco malt notes, but it also has a surprisingly bright fruit element to it. Really delicious aged beer that I got for a bargain price.

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Photo of sfprint
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: pitch black, tan head dissipates fast. no visible rising carbonation. pure oil.
S: black coffee, slightly sweet, dirt, heavy.
T: mildly bitter, but milky, what I expect a milk stout would be like. Sort of like a kind of chocolate milk but less sweet. Very nice.
M: at times rough in texture, at other times like chocolate milk.
O: Quite nice. A great porter.

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Photo of wedge
3.82/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2010

Pitch black with a fluffy, beige head that reduces to a creamy ring around the edge of the glass. Some sediment left in the bottle. Interesting aroma - along with a fresh chocolate grain richness, there is a good amount of toffee, nuts, prune, and port. Dark malt and fruit flavor exhibiting some tartness and a dry roasty edge. Dark fruit, berries, and molasses. Not as rich as many Baltic Porters, but then it is unusually light in alcohol. Medium bodied and pretty clean, but seems to fall a little flat. I'd be interested to see what this would be like properly cellared for a couple more years.

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Photo of JayQue
3.97/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first beer from Sweden. A winner! Purchased at Grape and Gourmet in Va Beach. Kevin has the Rate Beer scores taped under most shelves in the store. This one was rated super high...as it is on Beer Advocate as well. I can see why now. Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, the light tan head is just average with less than average retention and some spotty lacing. The beer itself has a nice dark brown color with ruby highlights available around the sides and bottom of the glass. The aroma is powerful, as pleasantly strong as some RISs. The aroma is malty, plenty of coffee and a vinuous/ port wine aroma as well. Taste is similar, a strong malty presence, coffee as the next most powerful flavor, a vinuous quality is there too. The only flavor that does come through in the aroma is the finishing hops bitterness. Adds a "just right" balance.

Mouthfeel is rich,,,hops at the end provides a nice treat for the tongue. Alcohol presence is mild and appropriate.

A fine porter!!!

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Photo of OneDropSoup
4.45/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a tulip pint: Black body with fairly prevalent highlights of an amber maple syrup nature. Two fingers loose mocha head that drops to a thick coating & leaves a thick collar of lace.

Wow - smells like a mash-in! Fresh smell of malted grain steeping, that hits it right on the head. A little fruity quality, like apple sauce or grape jelly, but that's the side attraction to that in-your-face malt smell. Great stuff!

Taste is more on the fruity jam side, with a little roast, some pastry dough & a character I can only describe as "lager-y" - pleasant, mild dampness. Not what I'd expect from the smell, but again, good stuff. Wraps us with mild caramel & toffee, & later develops a kind of cinnamon spiciness. Stuff keeps emerging & adding to the complex flavor. Coffee in the aftertaste.

Light-bodied & on the thin side, but with little drops of sweetness & a relatively clean finish.

This was such a surprise! I'd seen it on the shelves & never really thought much of it til now - really glad I tried it! Given the restrained alcohol, this is a great example of how a lot of flavor can be crammed into a fairly tidy package. There are just so many emerging layers, each sip is kind of a new experience. I also love how it straddles the line btw. lager & ale at times. What a cool brew!

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Photo of Mar02x
3.35/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

We blind tasted this one during our monthly tasting session in the Mug (Dutch ABT pub).

A - A deep dark red ale, not hazy and no head. Just a thin foam ring.

S - A wine like kind of smell.

T - Malty, grainy, sweet -The body is full of flavor.

M - A medium carbonated beer and a light bitter finish.

O - A nice beer, good enough to try again.

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Photo of WJVII
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a pint glass this brew is a deep dark brown with a milk chocolate 2 finger head that settles into a nice 1/2 finger head. The aroma is nice of chocolate, sweet brown sugar and some slight roasted malts. The taste is a little grainy strong on the sweeter malts. Not too much of a hop presence to balance things. A little roasted malt, but not enough dark roast flavor. Medium body with lighter carbonation. A decent brew but not a top tier porter.

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Photo of CuriousMonk
3.26/5  rDev -20.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, average and mostly diminishing light brown head. Moderate, malty and sweetish aroma, fruitiness - dark fruits, some coffee and roasted malt. Body is medium, malty and sweetish flavor, some fruitiness and coffee,light roasted malt. Finish is average, malty and sweetish, coffee and some roasted malt, light fruitiness and hoppyness. Overall, this porter was a bit too flattish for me, but had a nice vinous fruitiness to it.

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Photo of Gmann
3.18/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown color with a frothy khaki colored head that settled into a solid ring.

The aroma is of a lightly bready malt, milky and grainy. Some sterile roast notes and an overall tin like scent.

The malt is mostly grainy with a slight roast edge. Subtle metallic notes with an interesting lemon note. Some light caramel and toffee sweetness. Overall, a bit thin for a baltic porter.

The feel is light, though not watery, with some prickly carbonation. Grainy sweet on the palate with not much of a bitter offset. Drinks easy I guess.

Not super impressed with this beer. Basically a notch or two above a dark Euro lager. Definitely not a baltic porter in my eyes.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.02/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

2004 vintage with the Stark-Porter label.

Pours an almost opaque super dark crimson brown with a 1 inch foamy dark khaki head that settles to a thin cap. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is of dark malt, dark fruit, dark sugar, vanilla, and some earthy tobacco-like aromas. Taste is of dark malt, dark dried fruit (prune/raisin), leather, smoke, tobacco, and slight cocoa nibs. There is a light roasty bitterness on the palate after each sip. This beer has a low level of carbonation with a medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good baltic porter and a rare treat that is around 8 years old. I am glad I picked one of these up to try.

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Photo of EricCioe
4.14/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This pours a very deep brown with a sandy head that dies down but is easily stirred back up with agitation. On the nose there is licorice, vanilla, leather, tobacco, smoke and raisins. There is a whole lot going on in the nose on this one. In the mouth the licorice mixes with darker fruits that were hidden on the nose. The vanilla is still present but it's mostly through the nose. There is a whole lot going on here, too. The body is medium with relatively lower carbonation and a long finish, especially given the low abv.

Overall, this is one of the most complex brews I've ever had. There are so many flavors going on in both the nose and in the mouth. I had a great evening listening to Jaga Jazzist Live at the Cosmopolite and sipping on a glass of this stuff. It's not too often that I say I'm going to have to revisit a brew to see if I can figure it out more, but this is one of those.

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Photo of Brushkanna
5/5  rDev +21.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

WOW that’s a great beer. We had a Porter & Stout beer tasting over New Years Eve and of the 12 beers we tried this was hands down #1. Some of the beers we had were bitter, or had chocolate and coffee flavors, too much going on in some of them. Carnegie Porter had the straight-up porter style that I look for, full flavored, smooth with a short creamy head, World Class. This is the first beer I felt compelled to review.

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Photo of Reaper16
4.09/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

500mL bottle -- 2009 vintage -- served into a pint glass (thanks, bar)

Pours a dark brown color, as expected, with hints of like a grape Robitussin or something. But only in terms of color; cough syrup has a thicker body that this beer. It looks thin for the style. About one finger of head the color of sun-bleached sand forms.

This baltic porter may be on the lightest spectrum of the style, but it is not lacking at all for aroma. It has a huge nose full of raisins, dates, brown sugar, plum skin, and black cherry cola. It's a very lovely aroma.

While the aroma didn't give away this beer's sub-6% ABV, the taste does. It tastes somewhat muted relative to the Okocims or Olfabrikkens of the baltic porter world. It tastes like Baltic Porter Lite, though that description sounds more favorable in my head than it probably sounds in yours as you read this. I still think this a good beer; there's a place for beer's that try to delivery imperial-strength flavor in a more sessionable form.

The mouthfeel is the worst part of this beer by far. It's so thin, even for the style, that it comes across as watery. Like carbonated water, because the carbonation is very assertive here.

Overall, this doesn't blow me away, but it is far better than any 5.50% ABV attempt at a Blaltic Porter. In fact, I'm very impressed by the amount of aroma and flavor are in a beer this light.

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Photo of Justin23060
3.75/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A - Dark Cola black with red highlights. Small light beige head dissipated but laced the edge.

S - Caramel and chocolate.

T - Toffee, a little smoke. Pretty balance between sweet and dry from beginning to end. Not much of a linger.

M - Would have liked a little more carbonation. Some what thin.

O - I was really looking forward to this based on its reviews and recommendations. It's pretty solid, but not my A+ Baltic porter. I'd drink it if offered, but probably won't seek it out.

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Photo of dlello2
3.6/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark dark black/brown with burnt red/orange tinges. Nice finger of off-white head dissipate quickly. Ring of the stuff hangs on with large bubbles making islands.

S - Quite subtle with coffee and toffee notes. A roasted chocolate smell also appears. Yep, more chocolate as I'm smelling it.

T - Not super complex but a damn-well balanced porter. Not as thick as I'd have thought it to be. Super easy drinking. Sad that the hops are not coming through at all (maybe at the end). The larger the sip the tastier. Something in the beginning of the aftertaste that I don't like... maybe a salty/breadiness, but otherwise it's really good.

O - Really nice porter. For what it was supposed to be it did quite well.

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Photo of LeoPanna
4.72/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

11.2oz bottle purchased at Joe Canal's in Woodbrige, NJ... on sale for 3.99 a bottle.... poured into a Unibruoe tulip.

A: Pitch black, smooth pour... little head, white, but a lot of bubbles stickin on the glass. looks beautiful.

S: Sooo rich... Molasses, malts, raisins, plums, dates, bright wood, a little like Coca-Cola, Dr. Pepper... a little cinnamon...reminds me of a Puerto Rican drink called Malta India... don't smell the alcohol. I can't stop smelling. I'm addicted...6 minutes later. It reminds me of the Celebrator Dopplebock or an Eisbock. I'm ready to try.

T. mmmm... deep and dark malts right away. Raisins, grapes and dates in the middle... malt and wood essence, alcohol lingering on the back of the tongue...the aftertaste swells on the tongue, a slow tremolo between the malts, dark fruits and alcohol...after a few sips, i get some vanilla tones, even a light vegetable bitterness like biting into a sweet onion seasoned w pepper... as it warms, the raisin flavor emerges along. I want to be drinking this on a boat under the moon.

M. medium carbonation... smooth as hell.. goes down well. exactly what you expect from a baltic porter... even with the 5% ABV i can feel the warmth in my chest..

O. The entire experience is perfect. From the price, the cool bottle, to the pour and the smell. The taste is a journey but subtle enough to drink more than one. I'm not eating anything but I can pair this with all kinds of foods, some grilled lamb with asparagus, for dessert some raisin pudding cake maybe a vanilla ice cream. I'm going to age my other bottle and let those flavors grow.

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Photo of chicagoabbot
4.7/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

I was pretty close to giving this one a 5 on taste too...alas, it's only about four layers of flavor deep. Damn, this is a great porter. Deep rich color out of the bottle and into the glass. 2010 vintage. Baltic baby. Smell is super complex. There's a lot going on here and I inhale deeply with every sip. Lots of depth on the tongue. Malty. Well balanced. I almost should change that to a 5 on taste. This is a perfect Baltic porter. Mouthfeel is energetic but silky. Highly recommended.

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Photo of johnnnniee
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from 2010 sampled 9/30/2011
Pours the darkest of brown with faint ruby highlights when held to light. A good sized creamy off white head dissipates rather quickly, but leaves moderate lace in its wake. Smells of caramelized sugar and dark pitted fruit mostly but has hints of coffee and chocolate on the outer fringes. This one smells like a fine dopplebock honestly. Taste is moderately fruity with hints of chocolate and ash. Deep burnt sugars mix with dark fruit and a little bit of coffee. Medium body with a light level of carbonation and a creamy smooth mouthfeel. This is a very tasty beer. It really straddles the line between porter and dopplebock for me though. Maybe one day I can try a fresher example.

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