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Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden | website

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
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564
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
13.83%
 
 
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Photo of Mitchster
4.82/5  rDev +17%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours out to a very dark brown with mahogany accents, near black. Forms a thin tan head with poor retention and sparse lacing despite a heavy handed pour. Carbonation is mild. Aroma is very nice, with suggestions of fruits, dates, prunes, chocolate, vanilla, coffee. Clean ferment. Mouthfeel is full and soft with a dense body and luxurious finish. Taste is wonderful...a capitulation of the aroma with the addition of tobacco, a suggestion of woody dryness towards the finish, and a brisk, clean twangy finish. There is a hint of metal towards the middle, but tends to disappear over time. There is a very nice roasted character with a hint of chalk in the mix. Alcohol is imperceptable, and there are absolutely no off-flavors. Bert Grant...eat your heart out. "Perfect Porter" my ass...

This is an amazing porter, besting many stouts. Very pleasantly surprised by this, and I would highly recommend it to my porter loving friends. The drinkability is amazing. I could easily put away 3 of these 17 oz bottles back without noticing. Complex, yet extremely satisfying without fatigue on the tastebuds. My last gulp was as good or better than the last. Wow.

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Photo of GCBrewingCo
3.3/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

The beer poured into the glass translucent clear and yet pitch black with a frothy yet low tan head which coated the glass from top to bottom.

The aroma was strong chocolate with dark caramel and a licorice note thrown in for good measure. The aroma had some distinct roastiness.

The flavor was chocolate, but dry dark chocolate. Caramel was present, but it wasn't a sweet and malty contribution. The flavor was roasty and the bittering from the roasty grains was harsh. That bitter harshness was not well done at all.

The finish was dry with lasting bitter expresso and chocolate flavors that lasted just a bit too long into the aftertaste. The body was medium and well achieved. The bittering from the roasted grains really detracted from the enjoyment of this beer. The flavors and finish were harsh and not the stuff of world class beer.

16.9 ounce bottle. Best before April 2010 (April 2010...5 years and I certainly did not purchase this yesterday! Perhaps if I had it would have been better, or perhaps I should have waited till 2010!)

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Photo of Metalmonk
4.37/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I never think about Swedish beer, but I suppose if I did, I wouldn't think "porter". Let's see...

Poured a big head, though it didn't stay around, reducing to a thin layer and a more substantial tan crown. The black color is a beautiful thing, and bubbles show ample carbonation within the abyss.

Big juicy aroma, bursting with chocolate, coffee, and dark fruits, with just a little smoke giving a nice edge.

Flavor brings on some big, upfront flavors: coffee, caramel, chocolate, dates, cola, and a balancing citric sweetness in the finish. Slightly mineral aftertaste, and an earthy overall bitterness that makes sure this doesn't become too overbearing one way or another.

Mouthfeel is mildly sticky, giving some character to the medium body. Stickiness lets a variety of flavors ride out on the tongue, I still taste smoke, toffee and chocolate long after I've put the glass down.

This was immensely enjoyable. I look forward to hunting it down again. [I'm assuming "Argang 2004" on the bottle means it was brewed in 2004. Best Before date is May 2014]

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Photo of JayQue
3.97/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

My first beer from Sweden. A winner! Purchased at Grape and Gourmet in Va Beach. Kevin has the Rate Beer scores taped under most shelves in the store. This one was rated super high...as it is on Beer Advocate as well. I can see why now. Poured from an 11.2 oz bottle into a pint glass, the light tan head is just average with less than average retention and some spotty lacing. The beer itself has a nice dark brown color with ruby highlights available around the sides and bottom of the glass. The aroma is powerful, as pleasantly strong as some RISs. The aroma is malty, plenty of coffee and a vinuous/ port wine aroma as well. Taste is similar, a strong malty presence, coffee as the next most powerful flavor, a vinuous quality is there too. The only flavor that does come through in the aroma is the finishing hops bitterness. Adds a "just right" balance.

Mouthfeel is rich,,,hops at the end provides a nice treat for the tongue. Alcohol presence is mild and appropriate.

A fine porter!!!

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Photo of ummswimmin
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this as part of a beer experience program at my favorite tavern. If this wasn't part of the program, then I would have probably missed out on this beer.

The bar served this beer with a tulip style glass. The porter was dark with just a little bit of opaque brown at the edges of the glass. There wwas pretty minimal foam that dies down pretty quickly. It isn't a surprise that there wasn't lacing due to the style.

I picked up a lot of chocolate off the top of the Carnegie. There was also some coffee, but that comes way after the chocolate. The flavor follows the nose on this one. This is a pretty tasty beer. You continue to get the chocolate and lighter coffee. There is even some light hopping.

This is a pretty good porter overall.

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Photo of 57md
4.04/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a dark brown color with ruby edges. The beige head was less than full finger and it dissipated down to a thin film rather quickly. The nose had mild roasty notes. The flavor is a well balanced combination of dry roast and hop bitterness. The hop presence appears to be slightly above the norm for the style, but it makes for a terrific finish alongside the dryness of the roast profile.

This offering is hard to rate in comparison with other Baltics. It seems to be more in the vein of a classic Baltic while most contemporary beers of the style are heavier in body and roasted malt. I'll just say that this is a unique and very tasty offering.

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Photo of CRJMellor
4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours black with red highlights, thin light tan head with very minor lace.
Aroma of chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malt, some butterscotch, peat and a wheat bread note.
Flavor of heavy chocolate, some smoky roasted malt and a yeasty quality and very minor herbal bitterness.
Mouthfeel is semi-sweet moving to a very sweet and somewhat vinous middle that is cut short by a relatively tasteless bitterness.
Drinkability is very high. Probably defines the style as well as any beer.

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Photo of bobsy
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle from Tucker's Maltings. Drank in a caravan.

Pours a deep mahogany with a finger of tan head that soon dissipates to a thin and patchy film. Only a few spots of lace are left behind. The nose has an extremely enticing mix of chocolate, roasted malt and very strong and sweet dark fruit. Once the beer is tasted it reveals a large treacle character, which is more than likely the result if waves of raisin, chocolate and brown sugar melding together. This is accompanied by a light coffee roast and moderate bitterness. Smooth, almost creamy mouthfeel with a hint of alcohol in the tail. This beer drinks bigger than it is, which is a great feat for a lower ABV Baltic porter, and probably makes it one of the few that could be sessioned.

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Photo of NJpadreFan
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

D. Carnegie & Co. Argang 2001

My first Swedish beer!

appearance- Dark red/ black with a nice creamy tan head.

smell- Coffee!

taste- smooth coffee and a light chocolate flavor.

mouthfeel- a hint of alcohol and a slight bitterness.

overall- a nice porter that goes down well. Simple review- beer wasn't too complex.

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Photo of kmpitz2
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 vintage.

Pours a deep brown to black color with no head over top. Not even a puff when the cap was popped. The nose is light fig, and soy sauce. A very nice combination. I'd like a little more force in there, but I can live with it. The flavor is nice. Mellowed chocolate covered fig, touched with a soy, but not biting, flavor. Almost a light smokeyness in there as well. No hint of oxidation. Incredibly tasty. The feel is a light moderate, with no carbonation. Overall, an incredibly drinkable brew. Easily a session beer for me. I'm sad this is the only one I have.

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Photo of matjack85
4.88/5  rDev +18.4%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

I never had a Sweedish beer before so I almost balked at picking this one up when I saw the $5.19 price tag for a single 16.9 oz bottle, plus the beer was dated 2001 and this was already Sept. of 2006, so I didn't know how well it had held up and wondered why no one was buying it.

It poured a dark brown color and left just a 1 finger creamy tan head that soon disappeared to just a tan ring on top producing just a minimal of lacing. Nothing exceptional about the pour or appearance.

The smell however was a different story. This beer had an incredibly good aroma. It was an intoxicating mix of roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate. It smelled absolutely delicious.

The taste was more of the same. It had a creamy mouthfeel due in part to the low carbonation and tasted like creamy coffee layered with chocolate and roasted malts. There was no bitterness to it at all. Many beers with coffee tastes have a bitter coffee flavor to them and some chocolate flavors are more like bittersweet dark chocolate than sweet chocoalte, but this beer is all mild roasted coffee and sweet milk chocolate, yet it is a pleasant subtle sweetness rather than sugary sweet and I absolutely loved it. Like drinking a cold chocolate flavored coffee.
There was a trace of alcohol in the aftertaste, but it wasn't anyhting that detracted from the overall experience.

At just 5.5% abv I could drink these all night, and when a beer is this good, you don't mind spending $5.19 a bottle.

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Photo of CuriousMonk
3.26/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark brown, average and mostly diminishing light brown head. Moderate, malty and sweetish aroma, fruitiness - dark fruits, some coffee and roasted malt. Body is medium, malty and sweetish flavor, some fruitiness and coffee,light roasted malt. Finish is average, malty and sweetish, coffee and some roasted malt, light fruitiness and hoppyness. Overall, this porter was a bit too flattish for me, but had a nice vinous fruitiness to it.

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Photo of dsa7783
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Single, 1 Pint, .9 fl oz bottle copped from Livingston for $4.99...
Pours a deep, dark, chocolate-brown color with a modest head that soon receded and left a copious amount of lacing around the head of the glass...
Thick, rich, creamy, malt aroma with obvious cocoa powder and chocolate nuances...
Taste was creamy and heavy on the malts, with a noticeable presence of dehydrated malts, dark latte, mocha, and bittersweet chocolate nuances...
Creamy, thick mouthfeel with a slightly bittersweet finish...
Certainly not the sweetest or best Baltic Porter I've sampled, but a solid serving nonetheless...
Easily drinkable, without any cloying factors and a good level of drinkability due to the modest 5.5% ABV...
Worth a try...

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Photo of rarbring
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2009.

A very dark brown beer, almost black. The head is tan and melts down leaving quite some lace.

The smell is like stepping into a storage room full of dried plums, dates, figs and raisins. And somebody poured a cask of sherry over them and smashed the cask leaving some woody aromas as well.

The beer is rather light to drink, the taste is vinous and sweet with dried fruits. The hops are noticeable - probably due to being quite young. Hints of chocolate and coffee.

A creamy nice mouth-feel, a medium light carbonation.

A beer to drink quietly after dinner.

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Photo of bditty187
3.95/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Clear, dark brown in hue with a mix of ruby and tan highlights; beige head, at the apex the foam was over two fingers tall. Head retention was impressive; while the foam had a pocked soda look the bubbles did hang together very well. A tight cap lasted the entire consumption. Lacing started before I took a sip but, overall, it wasn’t very widespread. I can’t complain about the appearance, so I won’t. This is an attractive beer.

The nose has lots of toffee and caramel aromas as well as a faint but noticeable chocolate smell. Hints of molasses, figs, and raisins… no alcohol notes which should be expected considering it clocks in at sub 6% ABV. Clean aromas, no ale fruitiness. Lager yeast maybe? Not the most complex Baltic Porter I’ve smelled but it fits the mold, IMO. Moderate potency; I’ll call the aromas inviting, if not a tad straightforward.

The palate has a wonderful charred taste along with black coffee notes. Dry… more roasted then the nose indicated. There are suggestions of figs and raisins but these flavors are much in the background. Chocolate finds a home in the middle, somewhere after the char and coffee but before the dark fruits. Right before the finish, at the swallow, there is a brief hint of vanilla. Quick, dry, roasted aftertaste. I really like it. Compact flavor profile with enough complexity to keep me interested. Overall, it is tasty.

IMO, the mouthfeel is a tad thin and watery; about medium in body… maybe this is fitting for the size of this beer. Even so, I want more heft. Low but natural carbonation; on the whole the mouthfeel is okay. While I have complaints, this aspect of the beer doesn’t ruin the overall experience.

A session Baltic Porter? I think so. Should there be such a thing? Carnegie is not better than Gonzo or Ockocim but I like it all the same. Some crackers and cheddar cheese would rock with it. Maybe even a black bean burrito or a burger. I purchased a couple bottles in Council Bluffs, IA for $3.29. It was worth it.


“årgång 2006”

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Photo of Offa
4.97/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is an outstanding, complex, yet highly drinkable baltic porter. Despite being at the low abv end for the style, it does not lack character.

Almost black, it has a medium tan head very slowly shrinking to foamy ring & wisps, some lace.

Aroma is rich anisy prunes, dark sweet toast, dried dark fruits, chocolate.

Taste is wonderful toasted dark brown bread, singed prunes, anisy-woody elements, roastiness, wood. It has firm sweetness, light engaging bitterness. Finish is roasty and woody with dry cocoa. It is engaging and lively but the feel, though not oily, is full.

It is an outstanding balance between rich, full character, complexity, and easy drinkability.

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Photo of spoony
4.14/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From a 330 ml bottle (best by October 10, 2015) into a snifter.

A-The beer is a nice-looking ebony brown/black color with about one finger of tan head. I get some lacing on the glass as I drink, but the head retention is on the shorter side.

S-The aroma is simple at first, but reveals more complexity with each new sniff. I get some roasted flavors, but overall bitterness and smokiness are moderate. The malts are earthy with aromas of tobacco, prunes, and molasses. There is some caramel sweetness and dark fruit, too.

T-The taste is not quite as intriguing as the smell, but is pleasant nonetheless. There is just a bit of acrid, smokey bite, as well as caramel, molasses, earthy oak, and a bit of rye bread crust. Bitterness is pretty low for the style, but the beer packs a little touch of pleasant, coffee-like acidity.

M-The feel is medium in heft with a chunky carbonation that is below average in volume.

O-This is a very nice beer. The aroma, in particular, just keeps revealing new flavors with each sniff and each new flavor just seems to fold into the rest in a really pleasing package. The taste is a bit simpler and the mouth is a touch lighter than I would like, but I would happily drink more of this.

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Photo of lackenhauser
4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage-Pours a deep,deep ruby brown-borders on black but theres some great ruby highlights visible when held to the light. No real head to speak of. Low aroma-some roasted malt and a low level of yeastiness. Great big malty flavor-not overly astringent as some porters can be. Nice blend of chocolate and roasted malt. Mild bitterness. Lingering sweetness-somewhat trecle like in the finish. Wonderful body. An excellent beer and an even better porter-Baltic or otherwise. Very well balanced and rounded. At $5 a bottle I would like to see this in an affordable 6 or 4 pack. This could become a common occurance!

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Photo of SPLITGRIN
4.14/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1997 Vintage.

A thin black body boasts no head even with a very strong pour. I guess this might be expected from a beer that is 10 years old. The oldest vintage beer I've tried. Nose definetly shows its age with hints of ink, antique wood, leather, molases and slight smoke. Enter the mouth with notes that resemble thin port, oak barrels, chalkie malt and dry, mineral back bone. Hints of underlieing coco are there also. This beer really shows its maturity in its complexity. Mouthfeel is like drinking an antique store. Drinkable in a sippable way. Do seek out a vintage if you can find it.

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Photo of ryan1788a5
4.2/5  rDev +1.9%

11.2oz bottle poured into a pint glass.

A: Very dark brown in color, near black. Beige head settles soon. Small spots of lacing.

S: Molasses, plum, rum raisin, caramel, bready. Faint whiffs of brown cocoa and grassy hops.

T: Brown and black cocoa, caramel and molasses, some yeast, plum, faint grassy hops. Medium sweet. Oak? Very subtle licorice sort of taste. Brown sugar and hints of roasted coffee beans and smoke on the finish.

M: Medium bodied. Some sense of weight and heft in the mouth, but it stops just short of being sticky. Carbonation is very fine-bubbled and scrubs gently. Silky and texturally pleasant.

O: A nice true to style, old school Baltic porter. One of the style benchmarks.

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Photo of OtherShoe2
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours deep black with a slight partial ring of a tan head.

Scents of deep roast malt and dark raisin bread. Some herbal notes as well. Not an overpowering scent, though.

Dark roasted malt with a great balance between bitterness and sweet, with a bite of sweet fruit that reminded me of booze-filled cherries covered with dark chocolate. Seriously!

Nice consistency with some oily qualities.

Overall, this one went fast. Not overly boozy, and great balance, body, and strenght/complexity of flavor. A very good and interesting porter to try. From 2004 batch.

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Photo of BretSikkink
3.91/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reasonably dark brown color with some accenting around the side - head is thick and pretty full. A smattering of lace, but not much going on.

Pleasant and mildly sweet aromas of fruit and roasted malt. I'm pretty unimpressed with how weak this nose is.

I expected a little more darkly roasted malts and strength of character, but what's there is nice of taste - I just want more of it. Lots of chocolate and more than a little coffee, but the complexity isn't too high.

More fullness is required in the end; for this style I would like a little more malt body and a more fleshed out beer in general. This is easy to drink in the sense that it's light bodied with some interesting flavors, but I'm ready for another beer and if I had any number of alternatives within this style I would take them.

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Photo of ktrillionaire
4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Vintage 2004. Drank 2010.

Important: this Porter tastes like a proper Porter, and not like an alternate Stout. That is part of the reason why it is so dope. Many a purported Porter these days is suspiciously similar to a Stout. This one, as I said, differentiates itself definitively and definitely.

A – It pours as black as crude, with a moderate tan foam, and some decent lace action.

S – The aroma is not extravagant, but it is succinct and sublime, as is everything about this brew. It basically smells of dark malt, light oxidation and notes of cinnamon and smoke.

T – Again, it is not strongly flavored, but it is phenomenally smooth and balanced. I can't believe this beer is nearly six years old. The taste is full and richly malty, but not sweet, with subtle suggestions of dark fruit, plums, fig and a hint of roasty oxidation.

M – Very hearty. Exceptional.

D – Again, I am shocked that this brew is nearly six years old. At 5.5%, I wouldn't think it would keep so well. But it certainly does.

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Photo of woemad
4.82/5  rDev +17%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Had this last night at the Viking. 2001 vintage. Poured an inky black, with a head somewhere between tan and mud-color. Rich odor, I got elements of chocolate, rich, roasted black coffee, dark fruits, and a beguiling smokiness. The taste was exquisite, silky smooth. Velvety chocolate and premium coffee, wrapped in a thin sheen of smoked malt. Truly a pleasure to drink. If this being axed, as I've heard other BAs say, I'm going to buy up as many of these as my resources will allow.

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Photo of Beginner2
4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This has become an old friend. (And is better than a few of them, too.)
I am very close to the Alstrom Bros on this rating. I see no need to repeat.
When American porters get this subtle in blending sweet and bitter, we will have arrived.

Reviewed in Roger Protz' " 300 Beers To Try Before You Die!"
Also on the bucket-list of "1001". Definitely do not miss this one.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 348 ratings.
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