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Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Reviews:
351
Ratings:
572
Avg:
4.11
pDev:
13.87%
 
 
Wants:
64
Gots:
41
For Trade:
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Photo of GClarkage
3.56/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

4/17/05- Purchased at a wine and spirits store in Sonoma, CA

Presentation- 8.8oz bottle, vintage 1997, poured into my Corsendonk tulip.

Appearance- Dark and lightly sryupy pour, no head or lacing whatsoever.

Smell- Very sweet, almost like a prune juice scent. Alcohol fumes as well. Interesting.

Taste- Raisins, prunes, raosted malt in the background with maybe a light coffee grounds flavor. Maybe, just maybe a touch of super dark chocolate as well.

Mouthfeel- Pretty watery, almost like a watered down coffee liquor.

Drinkability- Not bad, but definitely not worth the $4.95 I paid for this not even 9oz of liquid. Worth a try if you can find it for cheaper, but still not a great baltic IMO.

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Photo of stevoj
3.37/5  rDev -18%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bottle from Boise Coop. Right in the wheelhouse for a classic porter. Dark, sweet and malty, pour has nice fluffy head which leaves streaky lacing. Nose is sweet malt, leading into flavors of molasses, peat and sweet malts. Classic porter.

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Photo of Duff27
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 vintage.

Thin tan head atop a black/brown beer. Some head retention, no lacing.

Roasted malt, chocolate.

Dark malts. Slight metalic taste due to age. Slight cherry flavor came out as it warm, I like that a lot.

Medium mouthfeel, medium carbonation.

Enjoyed it, held up amazingly for how old/low ABV it was. Heard it was a relatively cheap one to aquire, will be on the lookout for older vintages in the future.

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Photo of Mebuzzard
4.42/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 argang vintage bottle, 8+oz. Found it at Falling Rock in Denver.
Pours a black, slick body with reddish tints around the edge. 1 finger tan head. Very clean; no residue or lacing along the glass.
Smells of sweet chocolate, roasted coffee, molasses, caramel and bbq sauce. Nothing overpowering, alcohol is vacant.
Taste; very nice blend of the chocolate and coffee. Sweetness of raisin and black plum. Molasses turns into a burnt caramel flavor.
Just when I think it's gonna pack an overwhelming punch, it disappears nicely. Good drinking brew, wish it were a bigger bottle.

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Photo of WesWes
4.45/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer pours a deep dark black color with a thick frothy tan head that slowly fades to lacing. The aroma is awesome! It has a very powerful and rich black malt aroma that is sweet and slightly coffeelike. It is creamy and highly complex. The taste is great. It has a creamy chocolate/coffee flavor that is rich and smooth finishing. It seems high in alcohol, but the label says it's only 5.5%. It has a slightly bitter hop flavor as well. This is a very well balanced porter. The mouthfeel is good. It is a full bodied beer with adequate carbonation. This is a terrific brew. It is so rich in black malts. It's a very smooth drinking porter.

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Photo of DoubleJ
4.53/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is from the 2004 batch. From the Wine Exchange in Orange, on to the beer:

The black/opaque color and light tan head make a great contrast with each other. Smells of smoky/roasted malts with a sweet banana flavor. The flavor is strong, yet mellow. The bitterness is a burnt one from the malts. Trace of chocolate. The beer sweetens as it warms up, adding a hinted fudge flavor. It was extremely smooth, probabaly from the aging, and was much too easy to consume. It's so easy, a caveman can do it. HA! HA! But seriously, try it out if you can get it.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.97/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 2/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a very dark brown with red tint at the edges with a light tan head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of toasted malt and light chocolate. Tasted kind of understated on opening, with dark roasted malt and dark fruit. On warming a bit, the cherry, chocolate, vanilla and molasses started coming out. Great flavoe. Medium bodied with some creaminess. A quite nice low ABV porter. I bought this on a whim without great expectations and was very pleasantly surprised, will buy again.

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Photo of BillRoth
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

Popped a 10yo bottle of Carnegie Stark Porter in anticipation of trip to Sweden. Cheers to Bark!
Happily no significant oxidation. Have had this many times, but this time worthy writing about. Beer was a soft wash of roasted coffee and bitter chocolate. Excellent mouth feel, which is delightful considering the rather low abv. My 61 yo old nose doesn't pick up much these days, but there is still a nice roasted grain scent and a hint of fruity sweetness. This is just a great porter. May possibly be my favorite ever. As a lover of Porter...No small praise.

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Photo of Stinkypuss
4.03/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Carnegie porter 5.5 Porter 2010 edition. They brew another, lighter version as well.

Pours brown with ruby highlights. A nice khaki colored head forms and has staying power. Lacing is abundant. Aroma of deeply roasted malts, bready, and a touch of sea salt. Develops of robust malty flavor, with just a faint notion of smoke used to dry the malts. There is a complimentary flavor of a mild tea like hop balance. Mildly fruity ale yeast is apparent in the finish as well as a
Iight herbal bitterness. Mouthfeel is smooth, delicate carbonation and very easy to drink. In fact, it took me longer to enter this than to drink it. A fine Sweedish export.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.68/5  rDev -10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Best by April 2010, Sampled March 2007
As I pour this beer is shows a clear, dark chocolate brown color; it sits in my glass an opaque, black color though. It is topped by a frothy, initially two-finger thick dirtied brown, tan color. The aroma smells of dark aged malts; notes of chocolate, dusty burnt grain husks, some touches of dry cobwebs and toasted soda crackers mixes with notes of port, sherry and a rich, umami like, lightly concentrated meaty malt character.

The flavor is lightly sweet up front, yet moves to a soft roast driven acidity. The sweet malt notes are a mix of sweetened caramel, and sweet chocolate notes. The finish has a touch of coffee like, burnt bitterness to it as well as a chalky, almost tannic, husky burnt character. I really like the complexity that the slight oxidation notes bring to this beer, it adds a meaty richness to this brew, despite that it has quite a light body and mouth feel to it. I think that the roast character may have faded a bit with time as well, though it is still fairly noticeable, and the flavor profile is still largely driven by the dark malt notes.

In the end this is a fairly tasty brew, but I don't see how this is going to last until 2010. It is probably already just past its peak, and I could see this starting to develop cardboard-like oxidation notes pretty soon.

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Photo of plaid75
3.88/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Argang 2004.

Poured a deep black hue with a one finger foamy tan head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a soft cocoa aroma with hints of coffee and mild caramel.

The taste consisted of an upfront lactose sweetness that gradually blended with the roasted coffee element The sweetness prevented the flavor from drying out. I was a bit suprised by this.

The mouthfeel was full and chewy, with a bit of an uncomfortable heavy sweetness.

Overall a nice and flavorful porter. Not as dry as I would have hoped however.

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Photo of biegaman
3.57/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

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Photo of Zorro
4.35/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Retired? This bottle "Årgång 2004" and was delivered to the store just this week.

Pours a clear extremely dark brown beer with a nice brown head.

Smell is quite rich. Caramelized sugar and rye are the first things you smell. Fruit smell is mostly raisins, plums and figs. The last thing I can smell is a faint whiff of smoke.

Taste is very sweet and malty with a fairly strong hit of smoke and bitterness in the finish. A feisty porter that wants to argue with your tongue. "I am sweet and mild" and then it totally turns the tables "No I am smoky dark, and bitter" a Jekyll and Hyde flavor. Fairly fruity in the middle of the extremes in taste. Nice long lasting bitterness in the taste. Only one minor defect, there is a slight metallic flavor from the dark roasted malts used, just a hint but it is there.

Mouthfeel is thick.

A tasty drinkable beer here, too bad it is $5 a bottle. Full flavored Baltic porter that I can recommend.

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Photo of flagmantho
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 500mL bottle into a pint glass. This bottle is årgång 2004, so it's got some good age on it.

Appearance: rich, deep amber brown with one thick finger of creamy tan head. Body allows a hint of red light through.

Smell: very nice aroma which is lightly fruity with a roasty and chocolatey backdrop. Somewhat sweet and quite enjoyable.

Taste: like the aroma, there's a nice fruitiness here with a bit of roastiness and chocolate there for character. The flavor is not super strong; that is basically the only drawback.

Mouthfeel: body is on the lighter side of medium, but there's a well-integrated carbonation which yields a silky creaminess. Quite nice.

Drinkability: this beer is more than the sum of its parts. I like Baltic porters in general, and Carnegie is kind enough to clock in at a low enough ABV to basically be a session beer. Great stuff.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.94/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY. '04 vintage.

Pours an inky black, with a small filmy head, less than 1/4 inch, and no lacing.

Smells like sherry, port, chocolate, dark fruits, and roasted malt.

I am dumbfounded that a porter of this low of an ABV could last a decade, but it has. It seems a bit thin, and slightly watery, but there are some really nice flavors here. There's vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, slight oxidation, sherry, port, and lots of dark fruit flavors. Pretty swell.

This one is fairly light bodied for the Baltic Porter style, but with that, it's still very drinkable, and tasty. There is a very low level of carbonation.

This one was impressive because it lasted so long and remained drinkable- it also helps that it tasted pretty good!

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Photo of Georgiabeer
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark brown close to black with a head that quickly dissipates. The smell is typical Baltic porter, if a little lighter than some. Winey, slightly malty with notes of stewed cherries and prunes. The taste is similar to the smell, with vinous notes, prunes, and quite a bit of creamy vanilla on the finish. The mouthfeel is medium weight but fairly creamy and with nicely restrained carbonation. Very nice example and nicely complex especially given the relatively low alcohol.

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

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Photo of puboflyons
4.37/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.5

From the 12 fl. oz. bottle that has a 2014 date but not clear to me if it as old as that. Sampled on May 22, 2016. My 2,700th rating.

Dark brown to near black pour with a short-lived tan head.

Aroma of caramel malts, sweetness, toffee, dark roasted malts, and a low earthy hop presence. Really inviting.

Medium to bold body but incredibly smooth and creamy.

Very forward sweet roasted malt character with dark malts, a little chocolate, and a mild bitter finish. This was said to be one of Beer Connoisseur Michael Jackson's favorite beers and I can see why.

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Photo of Derek
4.31/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage.

A: Black with a creamy tan head. Great retention & lace.

S: Roasted coffee, brown sugar, dark fruit, floral hops.

T: Roasted grain has a light coffee flavour, brown sugar, dark fruit bread with nuts, slight mineral flavour, light smoke, some roasted acidity, assertive bitterness. Very impressive depth for its weight.

M: Modest body is quite creamy (impressive for its weight), slight chalky acidity.

D: Quite good.

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Photo of jdhilt
3.46/5  rDev -15.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that fades slowly, leaving some lace. Totally black color. Light-medium carbonation and heavy bodied. Slight chocolate nose. Flavor is chocolate and roasted coffee, some bakers chocolate at finish. $4.20 for a 500ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

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Photo of rudzud
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottle. Picked up on a whim from Julio's Liquors. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a deep dark almost black hue with a creamy almost two finger mocha head that fades to leave minimal side lacing but nice clouding.

S - Not bad aromas here. Predominantly roast malts and chocolate notes. Slight metalic aromas though.

T - Pretty good flavours. More subtle than usual, good deep rich roasted malts and light chocolate. Very smooth.

M - Quite smooth and creamy with just a little bit of carbonation. Feels slightly thin though.

O - Overall, this isnt a bad baltic porter. I wouldn't buy it again though as there are some great represenations of this style elsewhere.

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Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a blackish body w/ good head and minimal lace ring w/ a slightly dry roasted, coffeesue malt aroma, even bready, as well as little sticky sweetness. More of the same w/ the beer as it is lighter bodied, minimal carbonation so it passes smooth and easy, almost creamy, w/ sweet caramel, cocoa and a touch of vanilla (maybe) along with a little dry malt taste (roasted or coffee, or something like bread/dough/yeast). Simplistic and not overwhelming but well-crafted and a great sipper to have after a meal.

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Photo of beerthulhu
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a dark, cola color with plum highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The head was compact and creamy, a dark khaki color that quickly settled to a sparse layering but left a beautiful near solid film lacing. Even with its dark nature you can still see the rapid steady jet streams of carbonation bustling to the surface.

S: The nose was dark roasted malts with deep chocolate and fresh coffee.

T: The initial flavor was rich bitter sweet chocolate with dark coffee grains and some lactose/creamer notes adding some sweetness. There was some cocoa and vanilla bean, fresh ripe fruit (plums, raisins) adding to the complex and well balanced profile. There was a noticeable creamy chocolate nature to the drink as well.

M: creamy, rich, and aerated(fluffy) in the mouth with semi-bitter chocolate and fresh coffee for a lacing and fade.

D: Drinkability was simply beautiful, Did not want to sit my glass down for this one and was sad to see it go so quickly. Amazing and worthy of a high recommend.

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Photo of wl0307
4.23/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Purchased at the Foreign Beer Bar, NWAF 2008, Manchester. "Argang 2007" says the label, BB 13 NOV 17 ("2017" it means?!), served chilled in a straight imperial pint glass.

A: very dark brown in colour, nearly black, coming with a creamy tan head with good retention and restrained carbonation.
S: a settled fruity aroma as of cherry skins and berry-liquor, plus sweet roastiness like coffee-syrup, black sugar, and sweet nuttiness, with a mildly alcoholic touch as well as a lager's refreshing acidity in the background. Very "quiet", yet also "deep"... and, have I just sensed a touch of banana-esters??
T: caramelised dates, roast nuts, chewy black malts with a hint of finely ground espresso blend approach upfront; in no time the more aromatic and powdery Munich malts (as of a Dunkel) develops, along with bitter-sweet burned sugar and moderate but deep-running herbal bitter hops at the back of the palate. The finish is rather clean (in line with a lager), while the roasty aroma and chewy bitter mouthfeel just linger beautifully (like a true stout)...
M&D: refreshing, with lovely creamy fizz soothing the palate; this Baltic Porter is the lowest-gravity one that I've tried, and yet it provides all the complexities and an even higher drinkability. A delicious, well-hopped, and well-made dark gem this is, really like a chocolate stout blended with a full-bodied and fruity Czech dark lager.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer.

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