Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
579
Reviews:
353
Avg:
4.11
pDev:
10.71%
 
 
Wants:
66
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Photo of TheManiacalOne
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 release, acquired from DrJay courtesy of the Birthday Club 2, so a big “Thank you” goes out to him. Poured from a 16.9oz. bottle into a mug glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color with a short off-white head that fades very slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is full of dark fruit, roasted malts and some chocolate with a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet and very fruity with flavors of raisins, cherries and chocolate. Then a little bit of smokiness and a hearty malt character provide a lot of substance. Next a mild hops presence comes in to give a good balance. Despite the sweet start, the after-taste is smoky and slightly bitter.

M: Crisp and smooth, medium-to-heavy body, light-to-medium carbonation, slightly sticky finish.

D: Tasty, goes down easily, slightly filling, excellent representation of style, this is a nice beer to sit and relax with, but even though it is got a mild kick, it does not like a beer that I would want to drink a bunch of. Nonetheless, it is a very good beer overall.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Opaque mahogany, although far from a black hole, with orange and garnet accents. Atop the beer is a splendid looking cap of dense foam the color of chocolate chip cookie dough (sans chocolate chips). Too bad it doesn't last all that long and doesn't leave much lace.

The nose is a bit weaker than it should be. Come on, you're a Baltic porter man, smell like one! It's still pleasant, but the greats of the style have no need to worry. I smell roasted malt, a little chocolate and a minor burst of fruity hops. More power and more complexity would be nice, but it gets the job done.

Stark Porter is identifiable as a Baltic porter, although it doesn't clear the style bar by much. It's definitely on the lighter end of the spectrum and isn't really much bigger than the typical American porter in terms of flavor intensity and body. Having said all that, it is a rather tasty combination of chocolate liqueur and black coffee.

I also appreciate molasses notes with an accompanying fruitiness that must be due to hops. There's also a lactic sweetness attempting to fight through the moderate finishing bitterness. Perhaps this beer could be called a milk Baltic porter, akin to a milk stout. With warming, the mouthfeel (and the flavor) finds its mojo and, thence, respectability.

D.C. & C. SP is good beer, but it falls well short of the Perkuno's Hammers and Sinebrychoffs of the world. My penchant for more full-bodied beer means that I love the Baltic porter style. It also means that my praise of this one is something less than full-throated.

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Photo of russpowell
4.76/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

2006 version

Pours black with purple highlights when held to the light & a fluffed up 2 fingers deep sand colored head. Great lacing & head retention

S: Choclate & licorice

T: Huge choclate & burnt grain up front, then licorice & molasses. A little iron & alcohol bite surfaces as it warms . Finishes with a slight fruittyness, licorice & molasses

MF: Chewy with low carbonation & superb balance. Makes me think of a malted milk

Drinks pretty easy, would a nice on to session on if it weren't so expensive. One kickass batlic porter

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Photo of duceswild
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of smcolw
3.58/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark with a deep tan head that leaves a generous amount of lace.

Sweet chocolate aroma with buttery caramel...the smell is rich, full and inviting. There is a presense of alcohol, but it doesn't detract.

This is a very sweet porter. The hop comes across strictly as a spice. The malt sugars are present thoughout the tasting, even in the aftertaste. The high level of sugars make for a thick consistency. The carbonation is equally high providing a slight contrast to the sweetness.

This is a little too sweet for my taste, even though I can appreciate the complexity of the beer.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.38/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I remember having this before when it was Pripps porter, and the flavor has remained true.
Decanted cool into a snifter, the 2004 bottling -best before May 2014.
A - A deep chocolate brown w/ a full 3 finger tan head. The body is almost black w/ a head comprised of tiny unevenly spaced bubbles.

S - Very aromatic with botanical scent w/ mineral qualities like seaweed. There is a tinge of metallic aromas, the smell has vinous and port notes w/ a tad of woodiness and vanilla.

M - A very luxurious, silky smooth and nutty, almost oily feel w/ lots of quickly fading carbonation. There is a spicy piney hop in the middle - a lot is goin' on, a very fine texture.

T - I think the shape of the bottle is important as the bubble in the neck really opens up the aroma and flavors. The taste is of dark malt, slightly toffee-like, and is delivered in a way that is rich, but not overly sweet. I imagine the minerals in the water add to the complexity of this porter. The roast in the start and dry finish w/ the graham cracker like crisp flavor just brings you back for more.
I consider the flavor to be subtle, but intriguing and full of flavor. The taste is the best part.

D - A great beer, session strength, but still one of the top examples of the style. I consider it one of the best. More than 1 pint is not enough, a class act.

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Photo of Jason
4.59/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Presentation: Short 8.82 oz brown bottle with the vintage date of 1998 on the label.

Appearance: Thin lace though it has neatly textured tiny bubbles that crop up every time you take a sip. Close to jet black, only holding it up to the light will it produce some ruby hues.

Smell: Big sugary molasses aroma with a figgy back, dark caramel all over though chocolaty enough to give off a suggestion of brownies. Faint acidity in the nose also.

Taste: Smooth low level of carbonation with a slick mouth feel and solid full to medium body. Roasted flavours are intense but simple with a bite of charcoal and sweetness around all. Flavours of mild espresso, molasses and dark chocolate engulf the taste buds. Vague signs of age show with a touch of wet paper, this seems to add more good than harm and enhances the rich roasted flavours. From the charcoal flavours are trace woody and vanilla notes as well as a deep earthiness. Vague and lost acidic twang barely makes a dent in the threshold of flavour. Fruitiness is hidden for the most part but glimpses of burnt raisins and prune come to mind. Stays sweet even through the finish and there the alcohol is fairly noticed.

Notes: After four years it has held up very well with little signs of damage. Oxidation is minimal and the acidic twang is far out of reach to be a nuance. Makes you wonder what another year or more will bring to this brew.
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1997: Nearly jet black with a very thin bubbly lace that keeps on coming back after each sip. Smell of dark bread similar to pumpernickel, good amount of sweetness in the nose to soften the roasted aroma. Mild charcoal with woody and bready flavours that want to come in at the same time, very low carbonation that lets the creaminess flow first then a quick yet small smoothness rolls in. Vague acidic twang that is very passive, malt flavours pass back and forth between roasted and bready. Hops are but a dream and seem to be the most faded trait this brew has, thankfully the roasted grain picks up a little of the slack. Hard to tell this brew is on it fifth year, malt is still very fresh on the palate.

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Photo of atrocity
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%

Photo of Gagnonsux
4.01/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage. Color is pitch black with a large, tan head. The aroma is rather light and has an earthy malt smell. The taste of of earthy malts with a roasted edge. Coffee and chocolate are noted. Finish is sweet and stays with you. A nice hop body provides complexity and balance. Very good porter here, definently would like this one in my fridge again.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.5/5  rDev -14.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

The pour is brown in color with a small tan head. Some roast malt, dark fruit, and a hint of coffee come through first on the nose. A bit dusty and oxidized. Quite a lot of dark fruit, especially prunes. The flavor is fairly simple. Some roasted malt, chocolate, and tons of dark fruit.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.41/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

It is not often that I get excited about the prospect of reducing to Beer Backlog here as Chez Woody, but this one has me jazzed! I so rarely get to try Swedish beers & the double-plus bonus of a Baltic Porter really revs my engine.

From the bottle: "Carnegie Porter was brewed for the first time in 1836 and tastes the same today as it did then. Carnegie Porter has a creamy head with a scent of coffee. Its sweet and wellrounded [sic] flavor is balanced by the bitterness of the hops. Storage helps the flavor mature and enhances its harmony."

I Pop!ped the cap and gave it a pretty solid pour, resulting in a finger of fizzy, light-tan head with moderate retention, falling away to a skim of wisps. Color was Dark Brown to Very Dark Brown (SRM = > 27, < 34) with NE-quality clarity and garnet highlights. Nose was redolent with notes of: smoke; caramel; dark chocolate; dried, dark cherries and molasses. Yow! Mouthfeel was medium-to-full, not quite creamy, but near it. The taste was great - leathery with a cherry flavor, followed by a dark chocolate richness. I find 5.5% VERY hard to believe, Mr. Smart! Would you believe that the entire building is surrounded by a troop of angry Boy Scouts, each one armed with a loaded slingshot? Enough of this tomfoolery! Finish was semi-sweet, close to semi-dry, but not quite there. Jeez, Louise, I really like this beer!

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Photo of ZEB89
4.19/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of johnnnniee
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from 2010 sampled 9/30/2011
Pours the darkest of brown with faint ruby highlights when held to light. A good sized creamy off white head dissipates rather quickly, but leaves moderate lace in its wake. Smells of caramelized sugar and dark pitted fruit mostly but has hints of coffee and chocolate on the outer fringes. This one smells like a fine dopplebock honestly. Taste is moderately fruity with hints of chocolate and ash. Deep burnt sugars mix with dark fruit and a little bit of coffee. Medium body with a light level of carbonation and a creamy smooth mouthfeel. This is a very tasty beer. It really straddles the line between porter and dopplebock for me though. Maybe one day I can try a fresher example.

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Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%

Photo of WoodBrew
3.85/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

The Carnegie Porter is solid.....middle of the road light English like porter. It poured an deep mahogany with white head that left some lace. The scent was roast and peat. The taste had earth, roast and a touch of grenadine. The mouthfeel was lighter in body with decent carbonation. Overall it was good.

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Photo of smakawhat
4.24/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from the bottle into a nonic pint glass.

Deep walnut brown, with a very nice ruby edge for the body color. Head manages only about a finger tall on the pour, no lacing, but a fine milky tan color head and mixed soapy to creamy top. A bit of ring lace manages to stick around in places.

Really interesting nose. Mild clove notes and sticky almost licorice like qualities. Hints more to molasses but not as strong, with a real thick sensation. Bakery like almost pumpernickel and thick dough, a real dark unleavened bread sensation permeates throughout. Very neat and inviting but also quite unexpected. Almost a bit of meat jerky like quality aromas as well.

Palate brings much of the same and a good amount of pleasure. Light bodied simple classic roast qualities, but hints of mild molasses and licorice in the mid palate not unlike the the expected nose. A real nice controlled sweetness that comes somewhere between sweet milk and molasses. Creamy light finish with a mouthfeel and flavor that hints at a much bigger brew than the abv would indicate as well. Chewy, with a distinct palate for a porter. Bit of a prickly carbonation finish that also kicks in amongst the thick body too.

Very interesting classic unique brew. Hard to nail this one down, it's in it's own little space for sure.

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Photo of jwc215
4.7/5  rDev +14.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.55/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A definitive ebony hue. Good, crackling tan head. As Fred Eckhart recommends, put this one to your ear and listen! Aroma is a blast of espresso, cocoa, anise and molasses. Rich and roasted, with loads of bitterness on the palate and a tenacious finish. Complex, if a bit gritty. Not a brew for novices or girly-men, this is stiff and substantial stuff. Label says best before August 2O1O, but who could wait that long? Unfortunately, the brewery has become bereft of their senses and is discontinuing this classic, so grab one if you can.

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Photo of dvmin98
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Duff27
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2006 vintage.

Thin tan head atop a black/brown beer. Some head retention, no lacing.

Roasted malt, chocolate.

Dark malts. Slight metalic taste due to age. Slight cherry flavor came out as it warm, I like that a lot.

Medium mouthfeel, medium carbonation.

Enjoyed it, held up amazingly for how old/low ABV it was. Heard it was a relatively cheap one to aquire, will be on the lookout for older vintages in the future.

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Photo of GClarkage
3.56/5  rDev -13.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

4/17/05- Purchased at a wine and spirits store in Sonoma, CA

Presentation- 8.8oz bottle, vintage 1997, poured into my Corsendonk tulip.

Appearance- Dark and lightly sryupy pour, no head or lacing whatsoever.

Smell- Very sweet, almost like a prune juice scent. Alcohol fumes as well. Interesting.

Taste- Raisins, prunes, raosted malt in the background with maybe a light coffee grounds flavor. Maybe, just maybe a touch of super dark chocolate as well.

Mouthfeel- Pretty watery, almost like a watered down coffee liquor.

Drinkability- Not bad, but definitely not worth the $4.95 I paid for this not even 9oz of liquid. Worth a try if you can find it for cheaper, but still not a great baltic IMO.

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Photo of smartassboiler
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.94/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased at Beers of the World in Rochester, NY. '04 vintage.

Pours an inky black, with a small filmy head, less than 1/4 inch, and no lacing.

Smells like sherry, port, chocolate, dark fruits, and roasted malt.

I am dumbfounded that a porter of this low of an ABV could last a decade, but it has. It seems a bit thin, and slightly watery, but there are some really nice flavors here. There's vanilla, chocolate, roasted malt, slight oxidation, sherry, port, and lots of dark fruit flavors. Pretty swell.

This one is fairly light bodied for the Baltic Porter style, but with that, it's still very drinkable, and tasty. There is a very low level of carbonation.

This one was impressive because it lasted so long and remained drinkable- it also helps that it tasted pretty good!

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.97/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review from 2/2010 notes. Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a very dark brown with red tint at the edges with a light tan head with good retention and lacing. Aroma of toasted malt and light chocolate. Tasted kind of understated on opening, with dark roasted malt and dark fruit. On warming a bit, the cherry, chocolate, vanilla and molasses started coming out. Great flavoe. Medium bodied with some creaminess. A quite nice low ABV porter. I bought this on a whim without great expectations and was very pleasantly surprised, will buy again.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
4.11 out of 5 based on 579 ratings.
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