Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

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Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
Ratings:
582
Reviews:
354
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
10.68%
 
 
Wants:
66
Gots:
44
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Ratings: 582 |  Reviews: 354
Photo of kornkid8600
3.84/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of CDCNAM
3.5/5  rDev -15%

Photo of AKBelgianBeast
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark black with an offwhite head. Nose has a slight scotch ale smell to it. Taste follows with dark malts and dark malt. creamy and scotch aleish through the middle. Kind of a grapeish and cherryish flavor towards the end. Mouthfeel is good and thick with silky feel. Goes down smooth and is very drinkable, a great session porter.

Note: 2004 vintage is still drinking great. Very lagery smooth, with wonderful flavor, I would give it A- or so. Awesome.

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Photo of Dewey0603
3.96/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This is a 2004 vintage. This beer pours a ink black with a large foamy head. The head of this beer leaves very nice lacing. The smell has a real wood smoke aroma that dominates ,but also has sweet roasted malt . The taste is crisp with a smokey flavor along with malt sweetness and coffee. The m/f is lighter than expected with the flavors coming together very nicely. A very good beer that should be had by all. Cheers.

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Photo of Brushkanna
5/5  rDev +21.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

WOW that’s a great beer. We had a Porter & Stout beer tasting over New Years Eve and of the 12 beers we tried this was hands down #1. Some of the beers we had were bitter, or had chocolate and coffee flavors, too much going on in some of them. Carnegie Porter had the straight-up porter style that I look for, full flavored, smooth with a short creamy head, World Class. This is the first beer I felt compelled to review.

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Photo of oso
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of MaltyGoodness
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

25oz bottle. Vintage 2004.

Pours a rich black with some ruby highlights. A tan head that thins, but doesn't completely fade. Nice lacing on the glass.

Aroma of roasted grains with a sweet malty backdrop. A rather mild aroma.

A nice light roated flavor upfront with a sweet malty accompaniment. Follows with a slight hop bite and finishes roasty and clean.

Medium body and quite smooth.

Nice and easy to drink baltic porter. Has aged nicely. Very enjoyable.

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Photo of tillmac62
4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2010 vintage. Pours a clear dark amber with a rich dark ruby cast. Excellent head volume, lacing and retention. Complex nose of dark fruit (fig, plum), molasses and caramel over notes of chocolate and a hint of coffee. Light medium body with a bit of creaminess over a smooth texture. Normal carbonation with a bit of effervescence in the middle and a nice burst in the finish. The World Class flavor profile is reasonably intense, quite complex and masterfully balanced. It begins with a caramel sweet rush that soon flows into the dark fruits. In the middle, molasses comes to the forefront and fades into a mild roast and hop bitterness. As it approaches the finish, chocolate sweetness is evident and oak notes (oxidative aging) are present as is a subtle smokiness. The finish is a slow fade of sweetness into a mild hop bitterness with just a hint of dryness.

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Photo of aforbes10
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

2004 bottling. A brown and pretty beer. Opaque with a small, compact tan head. Smells of prunes, soy sauce, toffee, dark chocolate, cherries. Fruit odors are the most prominent, along with a rummy, scotch-like odor. Mmmm...yes, further evidence that baltic porters may be the most underappreciated of the top beer styles. This one is oaky and slightly burnt tasting, with lots of rum-like notes and a soft fruitiness. Burnt quality is maybe a bit too strong, turning the maltiness into more of a blackend coffee, but its still a great tasting beer. Too fizzy of a mouthfeel would be my only major complaint. Another great B.P. from Northern Europe!

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Photo of neonbrown82
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This bottle is from 2001, and it's still kicking. This is a very good porter, and it's a shame that it has been discontinued. Still plenty of stock to burn through at work, however.

Pours very thin with a jet black color and a thin white head that recedes to a ring around the glass. Leaves a beautiful lacing that ever so slowly washes down the sides of the glass until ultimately rejoining the beer. Carbonation is still active after several years of dormancy.

The smell is quite sweet. Has a very mild roast to it. A bit of caramel. Not a whole lot to add. Smells quite typical of an English porter even though it's a baltic porter from Sweden.

The taste is great. One of my favorite porters. Very mild with a nice chocolate and caramel backing along with a very slight roast. Very refreshing. Some interesting yeasty esters follow the initial taste.

The mouthfeel is a bit on the thin and watery side, which does not detract from the enjoyability of beverage but merely serves to make it more easily drinkable. It's a sure winner in that department. I am somewhat curious as to how this beer got the classification of a baltic porter (other than the geography, obviously) since this seems to be more of a mild English porter more than anything. I am not a stickler for style guidelines however, as long as your stout doesn't taste like a pale, for instance. This is definitely a good beer whatever you call it.

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Photo of BeerImmediately
4.23/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage into stout glass in the 45 degree range.

Pours with a healthy 3F of creamy, tan head over top of a deep brown body with burgundy edges. Nice amount of lacing present.

Powdery cocoa aroma, with butterscotch, molasses, and some bark in the back.

What a creamy, pleasant mouthfeel. Cocoa aroma transforms into milk chocolate with Kahlua, butterscotch becomes more pronounced with warming, and some roasted coffee bean finish throughout.

This goes down FAR too easily - thankfully, it's under 6%. Highly recommend that you pick this one up if you see it.

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Photo of ybnorml
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A very dark brown beer with dark mahogony highlights. Has a nice creamy dark beige head. There is a light dark roasted malt aroma with hints og coffee and licorice in the background. The flavor is full of roasty malt goodness. A nutlike sweetness on the sides of the tongue with a soft coffee bitterness at the back of the throat. The smooth creamy texture of the mouthfeel really drives this great beer home.

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Photo of beergeek279
4.17/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage, served in a 500 mL bottle, into a pint glass. The color is nearly black, with a bubbly beige head. The smell is a chocolatey roastiness. The taste is very chocolate sweet, with just the slightest bit of hops to it. Mouthfeel seems a bit thin. As for drinkability, could have real sessionability and no offputting flavors, so could have quite a few of these.

Well, I don't know if I'd consider this a Baltic porter, but it is solid. Though the mouthfeel is a tad thin, the flavor is quite good, with a rich chocolate to it. Quite good, and I'd love to try some of the other vintages.

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Photo of Silke_Neryn
4.05/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of SilentSabre
3.5/5  rDev -15%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I must say, I'm a little let down by this one. I had such high expectations for it, and I just don't think it delivered. It was quite tasy and smelled okay; it just wasn't the big, black, chocolate pudding beer I thought it was going to be. It poured a dark reddish brown colour through which light could pass. It had a sandy coloured foamy head that stayed around for ages and left thick lacing clinging to the sides of the glass. This was quite nice, but I would have liked it better were it darker still. The smell was roasted malts with a bit of a bitter coffee bean under tone, and a really faint chocolate aroma hidden deep down. I expected so much more in the smell. I expected the roasted malt, coffee, and chocolate, but at much higher levels. There was also a bit of a soured smell present here, as well, such as something you might expect to find with a lambic. Not as strong of course, but there, faintly, nevertheless. The taste was sweet roasted malts and a touch of caramel. Not the unmanageable semi-sweet chocolate and punch in the face coffee bean bitterness I was so hoping for. Mouthfeel was a bit thin, both for what I was expecting, and the style as a whole, I thought. Overall, this was a good porter. Not a fantastic porter, simply a good one. I was simply expecting so much more from this one, only to be dissappointed a bit. 3.5's across the board.

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Photo of zenithberwyn
4/5  rDev -2.9%

Photo of qchic
4.29/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

carnegie stark porter 1997 8.82 oz. bottle

appearance: pours cola brown, smattering of head, even with an aggressive pour.

aroma: rich chocolate, nuts, rum, dark red fruits, wood

taste: dark chocolate, coffee, raspberry, toffee, vanilla

mouthfeel: oily, low carbonation (appropriate for the age)

drinkability: wouldn't throw back too many, but I could sip this indefinitely.

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Photo of yeahnatenelson
4.13/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Årgång 2004

Thrown in as an extra by Jwiss22 - what a great guy!

Appearance -- Pours a dark brown, black in the glass, with an abundance of dark khaki head.

Smell -- Roast malt, raisin, figs, cocoa powder, malted milk, and red wine.

Taste -- Vibrant malt sweetness up front: raisin, cabernet grapes, and figs. There's also some pleasant smokey/roast flavors, like cocoa powder, char, molasses. There's a little bit of wet cardboard-y oxidation, but it hardly detracts from all of the benefits that aging has brought.

Mouthfeel -- Medium to full in body with mild carbonation. Smooth.

Drinkability -- If you told me a 5.5% beer would maintain this well over the course of six years, I wouldn't have believed you. Great stuff.

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Photo of BigJim5021
3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of geexploitation
4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

This is a relatively rare porter with a vintage statement. This applies to the 2004 vintage. It's a treat. It pours deep brown/coffeelike, with a tan head that thins out quickly but retains a small amount of bubbles. The smell has some chocolate bitterness with some underlying raisiny notes. An appealing nose but nothing too sumptuous. More substantial is the taste of this beer -- chocolate bitterness predominates, especially on the back of the tongue. The mouthfeel is silky and smooth, but the drinkability of this beer suffers a bit from its richness. It's probably too much to put away many pints at a time.

One note on the vintage thing: I just had the 1997 vintage a few weeks ago. It had aged wonderfully -- in spite of the absence of bottle conditioning and a relatively low alcohol content, this beer at 7+ years old was huge, with a much more complex flavor than the 2004 vintage. Over time, some great date flavors came out in the beer, as well as some nicely sweet, cake-like flavors. Anyway, a few people on here have noted seeing some 1997s around as remainders and such. If you see the 1997, BUY IT. As long as it's been cared for between then and now, you're in for some serious goodness.

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Photo of drseamus
3.98/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This is the 2004 vintage.

A: Fantastic looking beer all around. I poured it into my DFH snifter which it fit perfectly with the one inch head. The body is very dark black with a bit of ruby shining through the bottom. The head is actually a bit grayer than I'm used to for a porter but is nice and thick.

S: Smells more like whiskey than beer. There seems to be a bit of wood and chocolate and a good amount of sweetness.

T: It seems to have a whiskey taste as well including the woodiness. Just like the smell, there is some chocolate behind that although the sweetness is not there.

M: It isn't as thick as I would like and almost more reminiscent of the higher ABV double stouts like KBS or WWS.

D: Not a bad beer although it doesn't fit the Baltic Porter category very well.

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Photo of Reaper16
4.09/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

500mL bottle -- 2009 vintage -- served into a pint glass (thanks, bar)

Pours a dark brown color, as expected, with hints of like a grape Robitussin or something. But only in terms of color; cough syrup has a thicker body that this beer. It looks thin for the style. About one finger of head the color of sun-bleached sand forms.

This baltic porter may be on the lightest spectrum of the style, but it is not lacking at all for aroma. It has a huge nose full of raisins, dates, brown sugar, plum skin, and black cherry cola. It's a very lovely aroma.

While the aroma didn't give away this beer's sub-6% ABV, the taste does. It tastes somewhat muted relative to the Okocims or Olfabrikkens of the baltic porter world. It tastes like Baltic Porter Lite, though that description sounds more favorable in my head than it probably sounds in yours as you read this. I still think this a good beer; there's a place for beer's that try to delivery imperial-strength flavor in a more sessionable form.

The mouthfeel is the worst part of this beer by far. It's so thin, even for the style, that it comes across as watery. Like carbonated water, because the carbonation is very assertive here.

Overall, this doesn't blow me away, but it is far better than any 5.50% ABV attempt at a Blaltic Porter. In fact, I'm very impressed by the amount of aroma and flavor are in a beer this light.

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Photo of udubdawg
4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

16.9 oz bottle of the 2004 vintage
Pours nearly black, with some reddish highlights where sunlight sneaks through near the edges. Noticeably thin compared to most everything I else I drink that is this color. A tan head formed slowly but eventually reached over an inch in height before fading to an uneven ring with only a couple spots of lacing left behind.

Nose is lighter than I remember it - perhaps it is fading with age though I remember it lasting longer than this before. Still, it is very nice, full of chocolate, dark fruit and molasses. A bit redolent of port wine. Not noticing any alcohol here. I've had other bottles that rated a 4.5 - at least - in this category.

Just as tasty as I remembered it. More of the same from the aroma - rich, carmelized, and a bit roasty, flavors blended about perfectly. Quite sweet, complex, and fruity. Molasses and chocolate lasts into the finish, which also features a pleasant bitterness not noticed before. Excellent.

Very low carbonation and a bit thin across the tongue - a bit surprisingly for how creamy it is. While I wouldn't have more than one very often, that one delicious bottle is extremely drinkable.

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Photo of tbeer40
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

Photo of OldFrothingSlosh
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2000 edition.

Porters have made a strong comback in my book, following the disappointment that was the Polygamy Porter that kept me away for so long. This one was stellar.

Appearance: Poured a near pitch-black in color. Hold it up to the light and nothing passes through it (cue the Dark Knight from "MP and the Quest for the Holy Grail: "None shall pass!"). Creamy smooth and thick layer of toffee-colored head stands upon the body of the beer. There's a fair amount of spotty lace that sticks to the glass as I consumed this.

Smell: In a word...lovely. Chocolate, caramel latte' from Starbucks, raisins.

Taste: Very toffee-like. Heath bar flavor with some smoky flavor showing up at the end. Some dark fruit notes and fresh espresso coffee as well. Milk-chocolate flavor brings a close to this flavorful porter.

Mouthfeel and Drinkability: Nearly top-notch. Low levels of carbonation really enhances the "full" mouthfeel that this has. Creamy smooth. Highly quaffable.

Notes: Sadly, this is no longer brewed and I raise my empty pint glass to AKSmokedPorter for supplying me with this gem. I would love to get me mitts on a few more of these. Well-done.

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
4.12 out of 5 based on 582 ratings.
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