Carnegie Porter 5,5% | Carlsberg Sverige AB

Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BA SCORE
83.5%
Liked This Beer
4.1 w/ 583 ratings
Carnegie Porter 5,5%Carnegie Porter 5,5%
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Carlsberg Sverige AB
Sweden
carlsberg.se

Style: Baltic Porter

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.50%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

40 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

BEER STATS
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#2,219
Reviews:
354
Ratings:
583
Liked:
487
Avg:
4.1/5
pDev:
10.73%
Alströms:
4.77
 
 
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Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a blackish body w/ good head and minimal lace ring w/ a slightly dry roasted, coffeesue malt aroma, even bready, as well as little sticky sweetness. More of the same w/ the beer as it is lighter bodied, minimal carbonation so it passes smooth and easy, almost creamy, w/ sweet caramel, cocoa and a touch of vanilla (maybe) along with a little dry malt taste (roasted or coffee, or something like bread/dough/yeast). Simplistic and not overwhelming but well-crafted and a great sipper to have after a meal.

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Photo of Latarnik
4/5  rDev -2.4%

Photo of biegaman
3.57/5  rDev -12.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
3.68/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Best by April 2010, Sampled March 2007
As I pour this beer is shows a clear, dark chocolate brown color; it sits in my glass an opaque, black color though. It is topped by a frothy, initially two-finger thick dirtied brown, tan color. The aroma smells of dark aged malts; notes of chocolate, dusty burnt grain husks, some touches of dry cobwebs and toasted soda crackers mixes with notes of port, sherry and a rich, umami like, lightly concentrated meaty malt character.

The flavor is lightly sweet up front, yet moves to a soft roast driven acidity. The sweet malt notes are a mix of sweetened caramel, and sweet chocolate notes. The finish has a touch of coffee like, burnt bitterness to it as well as a chalky, almost tannic, husky burnt character. I really like the complexity that the slight oxidation notes bring to this beer, it adds a meaty richness to this brew, despite that it has quite a light body and mouth feel to it. I think that the roast character may have faded a bit with time as well, though it is still fairly noticeable, and the flavor profile is still largely driven by the dark malt notes.

In the end this is a fairly tasty brew, but I don't see how this is going to last until 2010. It is probably already just past its peak, and I could see this starting to develop cardboard-like oxidation notes pretty soon.

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Photo of Zorro
4.35/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Retired? This bottle "Årgång 2004" and was delivered to the store just this week.

Pours a clear extremely dark brown beer with a nice brown head.

Smell is quite rich. Caramelized sugar and rye are the first things you smell. Fruit smell is mostly raisins, plums and figs. The last thing I can smell is a faint whiff of smoke.

Taste is very sweet and malty with a fairly strong hit of smoke and bitterness in the finish. A feisty porter that wants to argue with your tongue. "I am sweet and mild" and then it totally turns the tables "No I am smoky dark, and bitter" a Jekyll and Hyde flavor. Fairly fruity in the middle of the extremes in taste. Nice long lasting bitterness in the taste. Only one minor defect, there is a slight metallic flavor from the dark roasted malts used, just a hint but it is there.

Mouthfeel is thick.

A tasty drinkable beer here, too bad it is $5 a bottle. Full flavored Baltic porter that I can recommend.

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Photo of Raziel313
2.75/5  rDev -32.9%

Photo of rudzud
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottle. Picked up on a whim from Julio's Liquors. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a deep dark almost black hue with a creamy almost two finger mocha head that fades to leave minimal side lacing but nice clouding.

S - Not bad aromas here. Predominantly roast malts and chocolate notes. Slight metalic aromas though.

T - Pretty good flavours. More subtle than usual, good deep rich roasted malts and light chocolate. Very smooth.

M - Quite smooth and creamy with just a little bit of carbonation. Feels slightly thin though.

O - Overall, this isnt a bad baltic porter. I wouldn't buy it again though as there are some great represenations of this style elsewhere.

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Photo of epyon396
4.04/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of pat61
4.75/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

L: Pours brilliant deep dark brown with a thin, clingy tan cap.
S: Chocolate, light coffee.
T: Starts slight sweet and ends dry, some dried fruit – mostly prune, no burnt or harsh roast flavors, moderately bitter. Light tartness on the finish.
F: Creamy, clean and smooth with above average carbonation and medium body.
O: Clean, smooth, easy to drink Baltic Porter.

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.08/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Black (with faint deep red notes), with a light brown large thick head that stays for some time before it dissipates leaving some lacings.

S: Heavy roasted sweet malt, faint raisin, some liqourish and some chocolate and faint coffee.

T: Sweet heavy roasted malt, with some dried dark fruit, chocolate and coffee. There is also hops, mostly bitter, but I can sence faint floral notes as well.

M: Body is medium, carbonation is moderate, the bewerage is creamy and smooth. The aftertaste is long and lingering with sweetness but also dryness and bitterness.

D: Well balanced. Nice and a bit complex. A very nice porter from Sweden.

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Photo of DucksFan16
4/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

09/09/2016

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Photo of jdhilt
3.46/5  rDev -15.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that fades slowly, leaving some lace. Totally black color. Light-medium carbonation and heavy bodied. Slight chocolate nose. Flavor is chocolate and roasted coffee, some bakers chocolate at finish. $4.20 for a 500ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

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Photo of cjgator3
4.61/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

2004 vintage.

Pours a dark black color with a small fizzy head that quickly dissapears. The nose features molasses, chocolate, roasted coffee, and caramel. The taste features much of the same flavors as present in the nose. Overall, this is an extremely well balanced and highly drinkable porter that stands out as one of my favorites.

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Photo of beerthulhu
4.38/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a dark, cola color with plum highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The head was compact and creamy, a dark khaki color that quickly settled to a sparse layering but left a beautiful near solid film lacing. Even with its dark nature you can still see the rapid steady jet streams of carbonation bustling to the surface.

S: The nose was dark roasted malts with deep chocolate and fresh coffee.

T: The initial flavor was rich bitter sweet chocolate with dark coffee grains and some lactose/creamer notes adding some sweetness. There was some cocoa and vanilla bean, fresh ripe fruit (plums, raisins) adding to the complex and well balanced profile. There was a noticeable creamy chocolate nature to the drink as well.

M: creamy, rich, and aerated(fluffy) in the mouth with semi-bitter chocolate and fresh coffee for a lacing and fade.

D: Drinkability was simply beautiful, Did not want to sit my glass down for this one and was sad to see it go so quickly. Amazing and worthy of a high recommend.

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Photo of avalon07
4.2/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a black color and a thick consistency. There was a large tan-colored, fairly long-lasting head and very good lacing.

S: Smelled of malt, coffee and a sweet element.

T: A nicely done taste of coffee, licorice and malt. Licorice had more of a role than I thought it would. Mild alcohol presence.

M: A good amount of carbonation and a generally smooth finish. Heavy-bodied.

D: Definitely a drinkable Baltic Porter. Sweeter than most, but goes down easy.

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Photo of mltobin
4.35/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a bottle of this at a shop in New Milford.

Appearance is near-black with a one finger tan head.
Carnegie Porter smells of coffee, roasted malt, raisins. It tastes sweet, chocolate coming out, more roasted malts and coffee. MF leans towards lighter with a creamy texture. This porter from Sweden is very good and pairs well with chocolate or other desserts.

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Photo of PEIhop
4.5/5  rDev +9.8%

Photo of pathman
4.75/5  rDev +15.9%

Photo of wl0307
4.23/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Purchased at the Foreign Beer Bar, NWAF 2008, Manchester. "Argang 2007" says the label, BB 13 NOV 17 ("2017" it means?!), served chilled in a straight imperial pint glass.

A: very dark brown in colour, nearly black, coming with a creamy tan head with good retention and restrained carbonation.
S: a settled fruity aroma as of cherry skins and berry-liquor, plus sweet roastiness like coffee-syrup, black sugar, and sweet nuttiness, with a mildly alcoholic touch as well as a lager's refreshing acidity in the background. Very "quiet", yet also "deep"... and, have I just sensed a touch of banana-esters??
T: caramelised dates, roast nuts, chewy black malts with a hint of finely ground espresso blend approach upfront; in no time the more aromatic and powdery Munich malts (as of a Dunkel) develops, along with bitter-sweet burned sugar and moderate but deep-running herbal bitter hops at the back of the palate. The finish is rather clean (in line with a lager), while the roasty aroma and chewy bitter mouthfeel just linger beautifully (like a true stout)...
M&D: refreshing, with lovely creamy fizz soothing the palate; this Baltic Porter is the lowest-gravity one that I've tried, and yet it provides all the complexities and an even higher drinkability. A delicious, well-hopped, and well-made dark gem this is, really like a chocolate stout blended with a full-bodied and fruity Czech dark lager.

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Photo of Immortale25
4.18/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a Funky Buddha Brewery snifter. Can't decipher the best before date, but the last two numbers are "15" so I'm going to assume it's good until 2015.

A- Pours a mostly opaque black color with a 1/4 inch tan head that retains a bit before becoming a thick ring around the edge of the glass and some sparse wisps of surface foam. Semi-resilient lacing leaves a thin, jagged ring behind.

S- Milk chocolate aroma with some medium dark roast. Notes of vanilla and a touch of booze.

T- Straightforward porter flavor with more medium dark roast accompanied by notes of coffee, more vanilla and dark bread. Mild bitterness rounds things out making for a tasty drink.

M- Semi-creamy with medium-low carbonation and a full body.

O- A porter by the numbers but executed so well. Very drinkable as well as very flavorful. Now I see what all the hubbub's about.

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Photo of bluejacket74
4.22/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

11.2 ounce bottle, 2010 vintage. I haven't had this in a while (since 2006!), so I figured I would review this one again. Served in a pint glass, the beer pours dark brown with some ruby red tints, and a half inch tan head. The head didn't stay around for too long, and there's a decent amount of lacing. The brew smells like roasted malt, dark fruit, coffee and some bittersweet chocolate. It tastes like roasted malt, nuts, coffee, bittersweet chocolate, and a bit of dark fruit. Mouthfeel/body is medium, it's slick and coating and very easy to drink. Just as I thought 6 years ago, this is a good brew that I would certainly have again.

Here's my first review of this beer from 8/19/2006:

This beer is a 2004 vintage. It pours dark brown with some ruby tints to it. I can smell roasted malt, coffee, chocolate and some dark fruit. It tastes pretty much like it smells, very good. The mouthfeel is a bit slick, but also smooth and creamy at the same time. The carbonation is low, and this is a very drinkable porter. This is a pretty good beer, I'd definitely drink it again.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer.

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Photo of jmdrpi
4.5/5  rDev +9.8%

Photo of Fettpopps
3.5/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of costanzo_mike
3.9/5  rDev -4.9%

Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
Beer rating: 83.5% out of 100 with 583 ratings
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