Moord & Doodslag - Disputin | Brouwerij De Molen

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Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.40%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".

Added by ChainGangGuy on 03-30-2008

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192
Ratings:
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pDev:
14.14%
 
 
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Photo of Chuckdiesel24
3.81/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Very dry

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Photo of Sabtos
3.92/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pouring clear varnish brown filling in the glass to a dark muddled brown, topped by a tall tan foam settling to a thick raised collar leaving defined layers of dripping sticky lace.

Smell is nutty roast paired with faint licorice and malt balls. An acidic sort of woody cedar cuts through the dark malt and far in the background is a milky sort of lactic chocolate.

Taste reminds me of a slightly more mature Yeti, with a cedary sort of presence and smoked almond notes. A sharp roast with molasses and licorice accents has an almost red fruit sting pairing with the heat of the ABV.

Feel is slick and medium-thin with a crisp but softening carbonation, finishing chewy dry.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.46/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I may be playing with fire, but The CANQuest (tm) CANnot abide sloppiness or haphazard records keeping. This beer was originally named Rasputin, but due to a legal wrangle, they changed it to "Disputin", but that does NOT appear on the label on the current CAN. Nor does the Dutch phrase, "Moord & Duslag" and as such, it becomes nearly impossible to find on this site. I took the initiative to add it as it currently exists + I took, resized & submitted the approved photo. I hope that my entry clears things up for users.

From the CAN: "This stout used to be called 'Rasputin', but the people who make 'Old Rasputin' in California thought you were too dumb to tell the two products apart, and threatened to sue us for trademark infringement. Think about this when you're looking for a way to spend your hard-earned beer money."

Hmm. If the wrangle was over a trademark, then the brewery is wrong-headed as one MUST vigorously defend one's registered trademark or potentially lose any future claim to it. If Lost Coast did not hold the trademark & simply wanted to alleviate confusion, then I CAN see De Molen's point. Onward!

Oh, man! It came in a wee, tiny 11.2-fl. oz. Slimline CAN for my enjoyment & amusement. I Crack!ed open the vent & CANmenced a slow, gentle Glug as I cradled the little CAN in my loving arms. It rewarded me by forming, unbidden, just under two fingers of dense, foamy, rocky, deep-tan/light-brown head with great retention, leaving wonderful lacing in its wake. Color was Black/Opaque (SRM = 44), allowing ZERO light penetration. In the meantime, I was gently caressing the glass, ensuring that it was properly supported and warming in my hands. Nose was heavy with anise/licorice as well as treacle, dark chocolate, burgundy wine, dried dark fruits, including/especially raspberries and just a tickle of alcohol heat. OMFG! It added up to a raspberry, vice cherry, Black Forest Cake! Get in mah mouth! Mouthfeel was big, thick, full & heavy on my tongue, where I allowed it to roll around, warming as it did so. Chocolate & raspberries were the big takeaway, but it could have been anything from ice cream to cake to brownies to fudge. It was a chewy, liquefied dessert beer involving primarily raspberries & chocolate in large quantities, but backed up by anise, treacle, burnt cigars (better than it sounds), red wine and a bready, cake-like maltiness. Fuuuu...dddggee! What did you think that I was going to type? Hey, kids read my reviews, too, y'know! Finish hovered in that no-man's land between semi-sweet & semi-dry. Phew! One was plenty, but I stand behind my assessment of it as a dessert beer.

For my early scoffers & detractors: Remember saying that RISs, Tarts & Sours will NEVER make it into a CANned beer format? Well, this review is for yinz!

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Photo of dsshuck
3.85/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of JOBEERFB
4.13/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of trickykid
4.19/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of bret717
4.03/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This review is for Cease & Desist, but from what I can gather, it's the same beer as this one, just with a different name. If I am mistaken, please let me know so I can put this in the appropriate place.

Bottle date on this is 12/18/14, with a best by of 25 years after bottling. Poured from a bottle into a snifter after warming for about 20 minutes

Look- pours black w/ one finger head that eventually disappears. No lacing. Some tiny light brown particles float around.

Smell- Dark chocolate, black licorice, and an earthy tree-bark like smell. A little smoke

Taste- Lots of chocolate followed by smoke, char and a roasty bitterness

Feel- medium to full bodied and fairly creamy

Overall- enjoyable RIS with lots of intense roasty flavors and nice mouthfeel

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Photo of superspak
4.03/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml can into snifter, best before 3/2019. Pours opaque dark brown/black color with a 1 finger dense and rocky khaki head with fantastic retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lasts. Nice dense soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Fantastic appearance. Aromas of big dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, toasted dark bread, smoke, charcoal, herbal, pepper, and pine; with lighter notes of leather, tobacco, raisin, plum, fig, cherry, and roast/toast/smoky earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/roast/bready malts, moderate earthy hops, and light fruity yeast notes; with great strength. Taste of big dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, toasted dark bread, smoke, charcoal, herbal, pepper, and pine; with lighter notes of leather, tobacco, raisin, plum, fig, cherry, and roast/toast/smoky earthiness. Light-moderate roast/char and herbal/peppery/piney hop bitterness on the finish. Lingering notes of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, toasted dark bread, smoke, charcoal, herbal, pepper, pine, leather, tobacco, dark fruit, and roast/toast/smoky earthiness on the finish for a while. Great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roast/bready malts, moderate earthy hops, and light fruity yeast flavors; with a great hop/char bitter/sweet balance; and zero acrid/astringent flavors after the finish. Light-moderate increasing dryness from hop/char bitterness. Medium carbonation and fairly full body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready, and fairly sticky/chalky balanced mouthfeel that is great. Mildly warming 10.4%. Overall this is an excellent Russian imperial stout. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roast/bready malts, moderate earthy hops, and light fruity yeast flavors; very smooth and dangerously easy to sip on for the ABV, with the modestly bitter/drying finish. Very rich dark/roast/charred malt complexity, balancing earthy hops, and pleasant complementing English yeast fruitiness. A very enjoyable, well made, and spot on style example as expected.

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Photo of SiepJones
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of coryhk
4.24/5  rDev +9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Oleg85
4.11/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Bierman9
4.17/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I tried this at Café Frape in Maastricht on 21SEP17. A 0.33l can was €6.50.

It was a deep, opaque chestnut hue; hardly any colors showed. Had a creamy, 1/2" lasting beige head, with nice lacing. Had a roasty, dark choco nose with semi-sweet notes. Feel was light on the prickle, and the body was medium; wish it was fuller.

Tasted some nice choco; it was semi-sweet, like ovaltine and mocha. Was a bit like a milk stout, imo. Also found some caramel and a bit of coffee, plus very subtle dark fruit and licorice. The finish had some light floral hopping. The ABV was well hidden in the solid brew. Zum Wohl!!

4.17/5 rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

1954

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Photo of mltobin
4.23/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of jhavs
4.31/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle poured into snifter.

Dark as night, appears creamy, very thin tan head quickly turns into a collar around the glass with a couple floating islands. Not much lacing.

Aroma is bittersweet baking cocoa, dark fruits and some black licorice.

Flavor is bitter, dark fruits, hint of underlying sweetness. Some licorice and black grains. Some dark chocolate and very dark roasted coffee.

Above medium body, smooth, nice carbonation level for style.

Overall a nice RIS.

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Photo of stephenlee
4.37/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of BdM
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of drmeto
3.71/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

L:
-pours the darkest of brown with no light coming through and a small to medium,frothy,beige head
S:
-raisins,plums,cooked potatoes,syrupy,caramel
T:
-raisins,syrup,grassy,coffee,dark chocolate
-finishes dry
F:
-low to medium carbonation
-medium body
-slight alcohol noticeable
O:
The Aroma is disappointing, the Taste is very good.
De Molen has certainly better Imperial Stouts available.

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Photo of Bruno74200
3.73/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Moord & Doodslag, Disputin, call it what you want, my bottle says Rasputin. I've heard some great things about it but I think it's just an average imperial stout.
quite dark, small head. It's quite messy. Mostly nuts and chocolate in smell and taste. It's very boozy all along. You've got some earthy and grassy hops in there but it's really far to what I call a Russian Imperial Stout. Moderate carbonation and a bit thin for an imperial stout. It's not a bad beer but you can find too much off flavour (band aid, phenols) in there it's not enjoyable as some other examples of the style.

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Photo of Epiktetos
4.53/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Photo of SHODriver
3.75/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Poured into a snifter to a deep black beer topped by a finger and a half of dense tan head that fades slowly to a collar around the edge of the glass with decent lacing
S: Smells of cereal grains, chocolate, coffee, and roasted malts
T: Taste is chocolate, slight bitter roasted malts, dark chocolate, and some coffee. Swallow is slight roasted malt bitterness with chocolate and coffee with some cereal gains
M: This beer is on the upper side of medium in body with soft carbonation that is slightly prickly. Mouthfeel isn't as thick or silky as I would expect from an Imperial Stout. The beer has a drying finish as well.
O: Overall this one is pretty good. There are better examples of the style but this one isn't terrible. Very drinkable and solid complexity.

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Photo of yuno
4.27/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Howlader
3.5/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of cjohns73
4.5/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of GuyFawkes
4/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Called "Cease & Desist" on my bottle

Bottled 3/28/14; drank 5/4/16 @ the Yarchives.

Brown/black appearance.

A rough pour yielded a small dark tan head; minimal lace

Fresh earth, candle wax, strawberry & caramel notes in the nose.

Thick, flat mouthfeel.

Dark chocolate, coffee grounds & faint strawberry flavors up front; rich caramel notes on the finish. Faint booze heat emerged as this warmed. Robust with a pleasant sweetness; this has settled into an enjoyable dessert stout. The flatness marred this just a touch.

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Photo of Martine
4.11/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours silky inky black into a tulip glass; small tan head fades to nothing after a short moment.

The aroma is sticky fig, black licorice, date, bakers chocolate, brown sugar and malts. It's definately hinting at a fruit forward stout.

Flavour is very much the same but after the stewed dark fruit comes a little treacle and malt loaf and then a definate roastiness with the introduction of milk chocolate, roasted coffee beans and umami. That fruity tang eases as you continue to sip, the roast taking over more and more, leading into a more bitter aftertaste with notes of woodsmoke; although the bitterness never overtakes you.

Feel is moderate-full with some carbonation. The booze is forgotten about very quicky, although it finishes a bit dry, that 10.4% ABV well hidden.

Overall this is fantastic, a nice balanced stout with equal parts fruit and roast, playing to both sides. Lovely.

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Moord & Doodslag - Disputin from Brouwerij De Molen
Beer rating: 3.89 out of 5 with 447 ratings