Moord & Doodslag - Disputin
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Style:
Russian Imperial Stout
Ranked #723
ABV:
10.7%
Score:
89
Ranked #8,559
Avg:
3.96 | pDev: 13.64%
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Notes: Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".
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Photo of josanguapo
4.26/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

De Zombier. Botella. En copa Teku. Viendo Black Summer 1x06-07. Torrefacta, con bastante melaza aunque sin pasarse y con notas a pasas. Cuerpo muy ligero, demasiado. Casi nada de espuma. Avg 3.83

24 Abril 2019. En copa Teku. Viendo Black Summer 1x08, luego 59 sombras muy oscuras. Lata. Bastante mejor que la versión en botella de ayer. Sin las notas a melaza, mas presencia del chocolate y el alcohol muy bien integrado

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Photo of beergoot
4.11/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Deep space black; very little head, thin and fizzy, ultimately leaving a slight ring of foam around the rim of the beer. Rich, roasty, mildly boozy aroma; cocoa. Rich cocoa and mild booze flavor; bitter with some aromatic spiciness. Heavy body; slick and silky on the palate; mainly dry mouthfeel overall.

This beer has aged well. The appearance (head-wise) is a little lacking, but the taste and feel are awesome for an old beer. The original label states "The beer will be good for 25 years If kept Cool and dark". In addition, it reads "This batch 1030 Bottles from 75cl".

This bottle has conflicting labeling. The apparent original label has the name as "Rasputin', brewed on 13/14 February 2009 and a bottling date of 17n March 2009 with bottle number 510. The paste on label over the original name lists the name 'Disputin' with hand-written numbering of 208/1170. There was an apparent legal dispute between Brouerij de Molen and North Coast (the paste on label has the following verbiage: This stout used to be called 'Rasputin', but the people who make 'Old Rasputin' in California thought you were too dumb to tell the two products apart, and threatened to sue us for trademark infringement. Think about that when you're looking for a way to spend your hard-earned beer money."

Priceless...

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Photo of Bouleboubier
4.16/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

(330 ml bottle "Cease & Desist", purchased in Aug 2017, but clearly of an older vintage... split between two snifters)

Dark brown liquid, burnt tan frothy foam; little lace, but decent foam retention... on the nose: smoke, leather, tobacco, molasses cookie... on the palate: cookie/cakey burnt malt milk, hint of dark cocoa and nutty coffee; mellow earthy smoke coloring; luscious; dry, soft sherry-like note in the finish... smooth as silk, alcohol tamed to the max; light viscous residual coating on the palate; dreamy... I've had this a few times on draft and in bottle; still pretty wonderful a few years out; worth the wait on this one

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Photo of janubio
4.09/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Tasted at The Situation. Pours a black colour, long head and retention. Good lacing. Aroma of grapes, chocolate, cherries, raisins, vanilla. Medium to full body, sticky texture, good carbonation. Bitter finish. Taste of grapes, vanilla, chocolate, raisins. Bitterness a bit later. Great.

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Photo of Sabtos
3.92/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pouring clear varnish brown filling in the glass to a dark muddled brown, topped by a tall tan foam settling to a thick raised collar leaving defined layers of dripping sticky lace.

Smell is nutty roast paired with faint licorice and malt balls. An acidic sort of woody cedar cuts through the dark malt and far in the background is a milky sort of lactic chocolate.

Taste reminds me of a slightly more mature Yeti, with a cedary sort of presence and smoked almond notes. A sharp roast with molasses and licorice accents has an almost red fruit sting pairing with the heat of the ABV.

Feel is slick and medium-thin with a crisp but softening carbonation, finishing chewy dry.

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Photo of woodychandler
4.46/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I may be playing with fire, but The CANQuest (tm) CANnot abide sloppiness or haphazard records keeping. This beer was originally named Rasputin, but due to a legal wrangle, they changed it to "Disputin", but that does NOT appear on the label on the current CAN. Nor does the Dutch phrase, "Moord & Duslag" and as such, it becomes nearly impossible to find on this site. I took the initiative to add it as it currently exists + I took, resized & submitted the approved photo. I hope that my entry clears things up for users.

From the CAN: "This stout used to be called 'Rasputin', but the people who make 'Old Rasputin' in California thought you were too dumb to tell the two products apart, and threatened to sue us for trademark infringement. Think about this when you're looking for a way to spend your hard-earned beer money."

Hmm. If the wrangle was over a trademark, then the brewery is wrong-headed as one MUST vigorously defend one's registered trademark or potentially lose any future claim to it. If Lost Coast did not hold the trademark & simply wanted to alleviate confusion, then I CAN see De Molen's point. Onward!

Oh, man! It came in a wee, tiny 11.2-fl. oz. Slimline CAN for my enjoyment & amusement. I Crack!ed open the vent & CANmenced a slow, gentle Glug as I cradled the little CAN in my loving arms. It rewarded me by forming, unbidden, just under two fingers of dense, foamy, rocky, deep-tan/light-brown head with great retention, leaving wonderful lacing in its wake. Color was Black/Opaque (SRM = 44), allowing ZERO light penetration. In the meantime, I was gently caressing the glass, ensuring that it was properly supported and warming in my hands. Nose was heavy with anise/licorice as well as treacle, dark chocolate, burgundy wine, dried dark fruits, including/especially raspberries and just a tickle of alcohol heat. OMFG! It added up to a raspberry, vice cherry, Black Forest Cake! Get in mah mouth! Mouthfeel was big, thick, full & heavy on my tongue, where I allowed it to roll around, warming as it did so. Chocolate & raspberries were the big takeaway, but it could have been anything from ice cream to cake to brownies to fudge. It was a chewy, liquefied dessert beer involving primarily raspberries & chocolate in large quantities, but backed up by anise, treacle, burnt cigars (better than it sounds), red wine and a bready, cake-like maltiness. Fuuuu...dddggee! What did you think that I was going to type? Hey, kids read my reviews, too, y'know! Finish hovered in that no-man's land between semi-sweet & semi-dry. Phew! One was plenty, but I stand behind my assessment of it as a dessert beer.

For my early scoffers & detractors: Remember saying that RISs, Tarts & Sours will NEVER make it into a CANned beer format? Well, this review is for yinz!

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Photo of bret717
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This review is for Cease & Desist, but from what I can gather, it's the same beer as this one, just with a different name. If I am mistaken, please let me know so I can put this in the appropriate place.

Bottle date on this is 12/18/14, with a best by of 25 years after bottling. Poured from a bottle into a snifter after warming for about 20 minutes

Look- pours black w/ one finger head that eventually disappears. No lacing. Some tiny light brown particles float around.

Smell- Dark chocolate, black licorice, and an earthy tree-bark like smell. A little smoke

Taste- Lots of chocolate followed by smoke, char and a roasty bitterness

Feel- medium to full bodied and fairly creamy

Overall- enjoyable RIS with lots of intense roasty flavors and nice mouthfeel

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Photo of superspak
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml can into snifter, best before 3/2019. Pours opaque dark brown/black color with a 1 finger dense and rocky khaki head with fantastic retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lasts. Nice dense soapy lacing clings on the glass, with a fair amount of streaming carbonation retaining the cap. Fantastic appearance. Aromas of big dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, toasted dark bread, smoke, charcoal, herbal, pepper, and pine; with lighter notes of leather, tobacco, raisin, plum, fig, cherry, and roast/toast/smoky earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of dark/roast/bready malts, moderate earthy hops, and light fruity yeast notes; with great strength. Taste of big dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, toasted dark bread, smoke, charcoal, herbal, pepper, and pine; with lighter notes of leather, tobacco, raisin, plum, fig, cherry, and roast/toast/smoky earthiness. Light-moderate roast/char and herbal/peppery/piney hop bitterness on the finish. Lingering notes of dark chocolate, cocoa, coffee, caramel, brown sugar, molasses, toffee, toasted dark bread, smoke, charcoal, herbal, pepper, pine, leather, tobacco, dark fruit, and roast/toast/smoky earthiness on the finish for a while. Great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roast/bready malts, moderate earthy hops, and light fruity yeast flavors; with a great hop/char bitter/sweet balance; and zero acrid/astringent flavors after the finish. Light-moderate increasing dryness from hop/char bitterness. Medium carbonation and fairly full body; with a very smooth, creamy/bready, and fairly sticky/chalky balanced mouthfeel that is great. Mildly warming 10.4%. Overall this is an excellent Russian imperial stout. All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of dark/roast/bready malts, moderate earthy hops, and light fruity yeast flavors; very smooth and dangerously easy to sip on for the ABV, with the modestly bitter/drying finish. Very rich dark/roast/charred malt complexity, balancing earthy hops, and pleasant complementing English yeast fruitiness. A very enjoyable, well made, and spot on style example as expected.

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Photo of Bierman9
4.17/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I tried this at Café Frape in Maastricht on 21SEP17. A 0.33l can was €6.50.

It was a deep, opaque chestnut hue; hardly any colors showed. Had a creamy, 1/2" lasting beige head, with nice lacing. Had a roasty, dark choco nose with semi-sweet notes. Feel was light on the prickle, and the body was medium; wish it was fuller.

Tasted some nice choco; it was semi-sweet, like ovaltine and mocha. Was a bit like a milk stout, imo. Also found some caramel and a bit of coffee, plus very subtle dark fruit and licorice. The finish had some light floral hopping. The ABV was well hidden in the solid brew. Zum Wohl!!

4.17/5 rDev +0.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

1954

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Photo of jhavs
4.31/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle poured into snifter.

Dark as night, appears creamy, very thin tan head quickly turns into a collar around the glass with a couple floating islands. Not much lacing.

Aroma is bittersweet baking cocoa, dark fruits and some black licorice.

Flavor is bitter, dark fruits, hint of underlying sweetness. Some licorice and black grains. Some dark chocolate and very dark roasted coffee.

Above medium body, smooth, nice carbonation level for style.

Overall a nice RIS.

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Photo of drmeto
3.71/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

L:
-pours the darkest of brown with no light coming through and a small to medium,frothy,beige head
S:
-raisins,plums,cooked potatoes,syrupy,caramel
T:
-raisins,syrup,grassy,coffee,dark chocolate
-finishes dry
F:
-low to medium carbonation
-medium body
-slight alcohol noticeable
O:
The Aroma is disappointing, the Taste is very good.
De Molen has certainly better Imperial Stouts available.

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Photo of Bruno74200
3.73/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Moord & Doodslag, Disputin, call it what you want, my bottle says Rasputin. I've heard some great things about it but I think it's just an average imperial stout.
quite dark, small head. It's quite messy. Mostly nuts and chocolate in smell and taste. It's very boozy all along. You've got some earthy and grassy hops in there but it's really far to what I call a Russian Imperial Stout. Moderate carbonation and a bit thin for an imperial stout. It's not a bad beer but you can find too much off flavour (band aid, phenols) in there it's not enjoyable as some other examples of the style.

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Photo of SHODriver
3.75/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A: Poured into a snifter to a deep black beer topped by a finger and a half of dense tan head that fades slowly to a collar around the edge of the glass with decent lacing
S: Smells of cereal grains, chocolate, coffee, and roasted malts
T: Taste is chocolate, slight bitter roasted malts, dark chocolate, and some coffee. Swallow is slight roasted malt bitterness with chocolate and coffee with some cereal gains
M: This beer is on the upper side of medium in body with soft carbonation that is slightly prickly. Mouthfeel isn't as thick or silky as I would expect from an Imperial Stout. The beer has a drying finish as well.
O: Overall this one is pretty good. There are better examples of the style but this one isn't terrible. Very drinkable and solid complexity.

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Photo of GuyFawkes
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Called "Cease & Desist" on my bottle

Bottled 3/28/14; drank 5/4/16 @ the Yarchives.

Brown/black appearance.

A rough pour yielded a small dark tan head; minimal lace

Fresh earth, candle wax, strawberry & caramel notes in the nose.

Thick, flat mouthfeel.

Dark chocolate, coffee grounds & faint strawberry flavors up front; rich caramel notes on the finish. Faint booze heat emerged as this warmed. Robust with a pleasant sweetness; this has settled into an enjoyable dessert stout. The flatness marred this just a touch.

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Photo of Martine
4.11/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Pours silky inky black into a tulip glass; small tan head fades to nothing after a short moment.

The aroma is sticky fig, black licorice, date, bakers chocolate, brown sugar and malts. It's definately hinting at a fruit forward stout.

Flavour is very much the same but after the stewed dark fruit comes a little treacle and malt loaf and then a definate roastiness with the introduction of milk chocolate, roasted coffee beans and umami. That fruity tang eases as you continue to sip, the roast taking over more and more, leading into a more bitter aftertaste with notes of woodsmoke; although the bitterness never overtakes you.

Feel is moderate-full with some carbonation. The booze is forgotten about very quicky, although it finishes a bit dry, that 10.4% ABV well hidden.

Overall this is fantastic, a nice balanced stout with equal parts fruit and roast, playing to both sides. Lovely.

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Photo of amano_h
4.08/5  rDev +3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An abundance of cereal grain, roasted malts, dark coffee, and chocolate overwhelm the nose. Caramel, raisins, and some milky chocolate also surface once you give the brew some time. Smells like a "typical" Russian Imperial Stout but with an unusually pronounced cereal aroma at the onset.

Aroma is well-mirrored on the palate; the cereal makes a brief cameo before it's kicked off the stage by a formidable presence of medium-roast espresso, figs, and bitter cacao nibs. A slight brown sugary sweetness follows the cacao-like bitterness, but the overall finish is quite dry.

Rasputin is nowhere as thick and as creamy as Ol' Raspy but still holds its own quite formbidably. Medium-bodied, with a chewy consistency. Close to no carbonation, with absolutely no booze burn

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Photo of HopsForBrains
4.72/5  rDev +19.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Hell for the price and age of this brew, which sat almost 2 years in the beer store prior to my purchase alongside one year in my cellar, this is a really fantastic and EASY DRINKING beer that tastes to me like a 5-6% ABV stout. So crazily does this dark ale settle with the palate that ultimately renders it crushable; in no way is Rasputin, produced by North Coast Brewing, any better in my mind than this fantastic beer. If this came in six packs, I would never choose any other imperial stout to casually drink in my leisure!

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Photo of brentk56
4.27/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottle 206 of 524 (Brewed on 08 May 2008)

Appearance: Pours the color of black coffee, with a very modest head that fades to a ringlet; numerous squiggles of lacing drape the chalice

Smell: Chocolate covered raisins, Sherry, roast and Ethiopian Yirgacheffe coffee (blueberries)

Taste: Chocolate and blueberry forward, with Sherry and dark fruit elements building; some roasted tones develop, after the swallow, but the chocolate and fruit intermingle into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with low to moderate carbonation

Overall: Not many beers can hold up for eight years (although the bottle suggests this one can last 25) and I suspect that time has tempered the 10.7% ABV and modified the flavors somewhat; still, the fruity aspect here is something I really enjoy and is missing from so many domestically brewed Russian Imperial Stouts; I am giving this one high marks for bringing the fruit back into the flavor profile - I have been looking for this for a long time

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Photo of BlurryVisi0n
3.91/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Served in chalice from the bottle here a Cerveceria Esparte here in Conil, Spain. Vintage bottle date 12/18/2014, labeled as Rasputin.

Appearance: Thin black body with a lighter tan head rising about half a finger's length and barely dropped after two or three sips. When it warms down, drops to nada.

Smell: Light scent of of barley and sweet malts. Coffee not espresso undertone.

Taste: Bitter brew, coffee with small dose of sugars. Malts are incredibly strong, come off juicy like a black ipa but definitely closer to the stout character it was born to be.

Mouth: Medium body with a slight heavy carbonation. Sticky coffee with milk finish.

Overall: Great find, took me a bit to find here BA from by reviewed it with a smile on my face. Not super unique but worth grab...Salud!

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Photo of Everydayoff
3.91/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Named as "Rasputin", ABV 10.4%

Served on tap in a De Molen stemmed glass at Wishbeer, Bangkok.

The showcase comes with dark brown hue with some reddish tinge. Medium foamy tan head stands with average retention before gradually subsiding to thin frothy sheet on the surface along with some lacing.

Cocoa, creamy chocolate, big roasted, vanilla, cherry bourbon, dark bread, a bit spice, citric hop, alcohol perfume, all of these aromas blending nicely.

Significant malty sweetness overwhelms with a profile of roasted barley, alcohol poking through with a sweet warming touch reminding of sweet bourbon. Bitterness from hop is at the almost end where a note of trademark astringency from roasted malt wraps up the palate in the finish.

The body is full with chewy and semi-smooth mouthfeel, rather low to medium carbonation, very dry finish.

This beer has big sweetness from its malty goodness to satisfy the sweet tooth. Alcohol is not quite hidden but a punch to your face, anyway, good sipping beer.

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Photo of DaveBar
3.99/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got on trade. Served at 10deg C in a challis. 330ml bottle

A- Opens well but pours no head at all. Slight film and it's gone in seconds. Nice dark brown colour though

S- Tobacco. Raisins. Sweet

T- Molasses. Sweet. Tobacco. Nice blend and the spices are nicely put together. Has a mellow nature and can go down pretty quickly if you don't watch.

M- Thick and rich going down then dries out. Pretty sticky though.

O- Nice blend. Will buy again if I see it.

Food Pairing

This rather rich and thick brew went well with...... Brazed beef short ribs slow cooked in a tomato and onion sauce

Enjoy

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Photo of Brutaltruth
3.99/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Enjoyed from the 12 oz bottle in a snifter---whoa---what a stout! Pours a deep muddled blackish brown with a moderate head of foam that subsides to a thick ring, subtle pool, and light lacing. Nose of coffee, chocolate, strong raisin notes, and deeply roasted malts. Flavors follow the nose with rich dark chocolate and dark roasted coffee on the front and sides, raisin notes mingle in the middle with notes of heavy char and subtle cream that fades to a sweet and boozy chocolate and coffee drenched beast of a brew. Slick and full mouth feel, light carbonation, and a coating yet warming finish. Excellent.

Cheers

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Photo of Gregaroo
4.09/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Updates:
6/5/17 - So good. Just a little smokey today. My dessert beer on Monday during PBW.
11-30-16 - Again on tap at Monk's. Tasty with an earthy feel and aftertaste. No head and no lacing. Easy drinking.
3-28-16 - Cease and Desist On tap at Monk's in Philly. Served in a tall stemmed tulip. No head. Dark brown. Not too sweet, yet oh so tasty. Wish I could stay for one more. Get some soon.

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Photo of EmperorBevis
4.26/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottled and bottle conditioned
Black bodied but the head which is tanned retreats to the rim of he glass a little too sharpish
Smells of good coffee and malt like ovaltine
Similar taste it's almost a dark chocolate malteser
Deceptively easy drinking
Good stuff indeed

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Photo of RickyS
4.24/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I am just going to assume this is really Rasputin as the link said! So... I poured this motoroil in my glass and was surprised to see this little carbonation but, as expected, no light is coming through. I smell it, and I retrieve the base common to pretty much all de molen beers, which is this very sweet and honey/cherry/marzipan malty backbone, which all their beer really are variants of. Not that I am complaining, de Molen beers are awesome (generally). So I get, malts, cherry notes and dried fruits, not quite like in quads though, maybe some chocolate notes, marzipan, brown sugars, molasses and no coffee. Surprisingly. After 15 minutes of sniffing maybe is time to dig in. WOW. Here is the coffee! And licorice, and dried fruits again and some hops. The beer has a rather astringent character. Quite long aftertaste. Full bodied. Excellent. Difficult to set expectations with these guys.

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