Moord & Doodslag (Disputin) | Brouwerij De Molen

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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.70%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".

Added by ChainGangGuy on 03-30-2008

BEER STATS
Reviews:
179
Ratings:
413
Avg:
3.88
pDev:
21.91%
 
 
Wants:
40
Gots:
103
For Trade:
7
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Reviews: 179 | Ratings: 413
Reviews by FreshHawk:
Photo of FreshHawk
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Dark black and thick looking. Small, frothy, creamy, tan head. Disappears pretty fast leaving a faint ring of lace on the edge of the glass.

S - Plenty of chocolate with cocoa being very strong. Also some molasses. Some dark fruit (figs) along with anise/licorice. Only touches of coffee. A bitter roasted/charred malt aroma is in the back.

T - Sweeter than the nose suggested. Chocolate syrup, molasses, and sweet dark fruit are all fairly strong. Pretty sweet to start. Touches of sweetish mocha. Finish has a more bitter roasted/charred taste along with a bit of a grassy hop flavor.

M - Full body with low carbonation. Thick and chewy.

D - Definitely a sipper. Nice thick body helped. The extreme shift between sweet and bitter hurts how drinkable this is.

Notes: Interesting stout. Thick and chewy. Huge shift from sweet to bitter. Some BSDA flavors in there. Overall, it's decent but probably not worth what a bottle will cost (on-tap is worth a shot though).

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More User Reviews:
Photo of withliterature
4.38/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance was a beautiful black body and thick sudsy brown head which cleared quickly.

Taste was very rich but pleasingly free of the soy-saucy savoury taste that is common among heavy stouts and porters.

The feel was thick and smooth, not heavily carbonated. Drinkability is very high because the low carbonation and smoother taste didn't wear out the mouth as much as some strong dark beers.

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Photo of -DF-
4.4/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of bdkucharski
2.16/5  rDev -44.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

Purchased a bottle (marked as 'cease & desist') on recommendation by store staff.

I wish I had read many of these other reviews first, as I would have gotten some warning about the potential for a gusher.

A - Black/Brown. Very foamy, it was all I could do to get this into a glass without it ending up all over the counter. So, thumbs up on the head retention.

S - Sweet and funky, not sure what kind of yeast they are using but it probably has something to do with the funk.

T - Sweet with a bit of roast then full-on funk and metallic. This beer has potential, but not being a fan Belgians and wilds, this comes across to me as infection vs. an intended effect.

M - Not too thick, not too thin, though it was difficult to get a good feel with the crazy carbonation until I let it warm to room temp.

O - I would not recommend this beer unless you are of the VERY adventurous type, especially considering the steep price tag ($10). I could definitely taste that this beer had potential at some point in the process, but I find the statement that this beer will be good for up to 25 years is laughable from my perspective. Thumbs down!

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Photo of daveshawley
4.5/5  rDev +16%

Photo of lordofthewiens
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Served as Cease and Desist at pigs fly.
The beer was black in color with a thin tan head.

Boozy aroma. Roasted malt and dark fruit.

Boozy taste. Chocolate and coffee. Raisins.

This was a nice enough beer. I thought the alcohol was a bit on the intrusive side, and detracted from the enjoyment of the beer.

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Photo of warnerry
4/5  rDev +3.1%

Photo of Afroman
4.16/5  rDev +7.2%

Photo of alarmclock314
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

11.2oz bottle, dated 8/27/14. Pours black with a small sized dark tan head. Smells of dark fruit and roasted malts. Taste follows almost exactly with some added coffee notes and char. Medium body and some prickly carbonation. The strong dark fruit flavors kind of reminded me of a quad. Brouwerij has better RIS's.

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Photo of mverity
3.09/5  rDev -20.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 3

Deep, watery chocolate brown with the thinnest tan head that faded immediately. No lacing, no legs. Aroma is deeply roasted malt, dark chocolate, and some slightly burnt molasses. Taste was much like the aroma: almost a mix between an English stout and a bad barleywine. Mouthfeel is very thin. Light body and low carbonation.

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Photo of olradetbalder
4/5  rDev +3.1%

Photo of Marius
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of kingcrowing
4.01/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

On tap poured into a tulip.

Pours a bit higher black color with a thin dark brown head with lots of lacing. Nose is sweet, Belgian yeast, and dark toffee notes.

Taste is sharp, a bit acidic, a big Belgian flavor for an imperial Stout, very chewy and full with an almost nitro Mouthfeel, very good. There's a nice Raisin taste as well, chocolate comes out as it warms.

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Photo of HopsForBrains
4.72/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Hell for the price and age of this brew, which sat almost 2 years in the beer store prior to my purchase alongside one year in my cellar, this is a really fantastic and EASY DRINKING beer that tastes to me like a 5-6% ABV stout. So crazily does this dark ale settle with the palate that ultimately renders it crushable; in no way is Rasputin, produced by North Coast Brewing, any better in my mind than this fantastic beer. If this came in six packs, I would never choose any other imperial stout to casually drink in my leisure!

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Photo of glid02
3.93/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On-tap at the Porter Beer Bar in Atlanta.

Pours black with a one-finger tan head. The head recedes into a thin layer on top leaving decent lacing.

Smells of muted roasted malts with hints of cocoa powder.

Tastes more robust than it smells. Moderately roasted malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by semi-sweet chocolate flavors. The flavor profile sweetens a bit midway through the sip with the addition of dark molasses, carrying through to a mildly bitter ending.

Mouthfeel is very good. It's got a heavy thickness with moderate carbonation.

Drinkability is good. I didn't have any problems finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall I'd been interested in trying this beer for a while now and was happy to see it on-tap as opposed to paying $25 for a bottle. A solid beer but one not worth seeking out.

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Photo of RickyS
4.24/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I am just going to assume this is really Rasputin as the link said! So... I poured this motoroil in my glass and was surprised to see this little carbonation but, as expected, no light is coming through. I smell it, and I retrieve the base common to pretty much all de molen beers, which is this very sweet and honey/cherry/marzipan malty backbone, which all their beer really are variants of. Not that I am complaining, de Molen beers are awesome (generally). So I get, malts, cherry notes and dried fruits, not quite like in quads though, maybe some chocolate notes, marzipan, brown sugars, molasses and no coffee. Surprisingly. After 15 minutes of sniffing maybe is time to dig in. WOW. Here is the coffee! And licorice, and dried fruits again and some hops. The beer has a rather astringent character. Quite long aftertaste. Full bodied. Excellent. Difficult to set expectations with these guys.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a snifter)
Brewed 18 july 2010
bottled 27 august 2010
batch 1584

A- This beer pours a big fuzz on opening that makes the glass 3/4 creamy tan foam and a jet black body with some good about of jetsam swirling around.

S- The earthy roasted malt has some dark raisins and wet concrete aromas with maple wood and soy sauce hints coming through in the finish. There is a wet diaper (diacetyl) note that comes through but it is not offensive.

T- The mellow roasted black malt has some chocolate malt flavors that grow as the beer opens and a dark cherry ester note from the yeast. There is a char note in the finish that is a bit inky with a green fading bitterness mixed in. The roasted black malt taste lingers after each sip.

M- The full mouthfeel has a thick texture due to the long lasting head and there is no alcohol heat until it is really warm and even then it is an alcohol warmth.

O- This is a nice big stout with De Molen house yeast character shining through to add a Flanders Red note to the beer but it still lurks in the background.

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Photo of acurtis
4/5  rDev +3.1%

Photo of ggaughan
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled from the bottle at the Pre-ZBF fest at Alvinne. Straight from the brewers hand. The beer poured a deep black color with a tan head. The nose gives some dried fruit and caramel character, touch of coffee. Taste of cocoa, coffee and a touch of molasses. The taste provides some dried fruit, raisin character and a full body.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle, 10.4% ABV, and again, good for 25 years - I like the optimism! And the fact that they can sell this product with the original name here in Canada, though the Yankee lienee's label is the more striking of the two.

This beer pours a clear, very dark amber-highlighted brown - black from afar, but far from black - with two fingers of puffy and creamy beige head, which displays some sturdy retention, dragging the lace down to a low ebbing shoreline detritus.

It smells of edgy, somewhat acidic black fruit, further boozy raisin, bittersweet chocolate, ash, a toasted toffee graininess, and musty, earthy hops. The taste is big, big, gritty chocolate malt, some adjoining sweet roasted grain, soused sour dark fleshy fruit, a bit of edgy, metallic alcohol, and bitter herbal, leafy hops.

The carbonation is low-lying, and just supportive, the body a hefty, but spry medium weight, and fairly smooth, with a touch of creaminess in amongst the remarkably restrained barbs of heat. It finishes quite sweet, the chocolate, fruit, and booze carrying the day in the face of that increasingly weird herbal hop character.

While there are some indicators that could recommend this as more than just an average RIS, there are more that point it towards generic (not a bad thing) strong ale territory. Not a bad big beer, just lacking the roasted fullness of the better examples of the genre. That, and those herbal notes really don't help the cause.

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Photo of DruC4
4.18/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of Mar02x
4.5/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

My bottle is titled Rasputin, and was bottled on ?, bottle ?, the bottle mentions a alcohol percentage of 10,4% instate of the 11% mentioned by BA.

A - A pitch-black red colored beer (is this possible?) Good head, but it fades pretty quickly leaving a decent lacing.

S - Love the aromas coming off this beer, smells like a kind of black candy, liquorice and a bit of burnt sugar. I could swear that there is some champagne yeast used.

T - The taste is absolutely different than the smell would give away. Excellent brew! I am already sure that I will buy this beer again and again, a heavenly stout thats already for sure. Is there any alcohol in this beer? Very good alcohol hiding for a beer with more than 10% ABV. A complex beer with an superb taste. The after taste is what it should be. Sorry to say, but to my humble opinion its better than what the Struise brews (only concerning to the after taste that is). This is about as wild a stout as I've had. Not sour exactly but more sweet brown sugar, caramel, hoppy, some cherries and cocoa powder. A real funky brew, very unique!

M - Mouth-feel is solid over all. It was also a little syrupy but I can't complain.

O - Overall I liked it quite a bit. But I think that was already obvious. Pretty funky for a stout and definitely very unique. Is this beer made in Holland? A reason the more to be proud on my country.

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Photo of Lazerlobe
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottled 2/16/09

A: Pours a modest brown, almost cola-like with a permanent beige head.

S: Molasses, fig, roasted grain and a inviting sweetness.

T: Still quite sweet with a pair of years on it. A wonderful medley of dark fruit, chocolate liquor and roasted barley. Minimal resinous hops under the dessert-like body and finishing with a nice roasted flavor.

M: Thinner than many in the style, but dangerously easy to drink. The 11% is almost completely hidden and the word boozy was has never come to mind while enjoying this.

D: The sweetness is the only thing slowing my consumption. I won't have a problem finishing this off but I AM worried about the sneaky little ABV affect my gait.

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Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Jason, found at Julio's. Aroma of roast primarily, and malt. Black with big bubbly white head. Significant lace. A good above-average mouthfeel. Nice drinkability. This beer is a good product for the style, but it does have lots of competition these days and that is taken into account.

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Photo of zaphodchak
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not a whole lotta wax on here. It's a 2008.

Thin offwhite head, cloudy rich brown. Faint lace. Little spiral on the surface.

Smells like age, and a bit of cherry and rich malt.

Taste is good, powerfully malty with a bit of licorice, a trace of cherry. Some age is evident, but not 'vintage'-ey. Kinda Belgian yeast profile. This could be a roasty, slightly dry quad. Relatively balanced by some bittering hops that remain present despite 4 years cellaring.

Nice and smooth feel.

Very nice beer, but by no means meritorious of the $25 I paid for it.

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