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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin) | Brouwerij De Molen

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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.70%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".

Added by ChainGangGuy on 03-30-2008

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Photo of Sammy
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of Jason, found at Julio's. Aroma of roast primarily, and malt. Black with big bubbly white head. Significant lace. A good above-average mouthfeel. Nice drinkability. This beer is a good product for the style, but it does have lots of competition these days and that is taken into account.

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
4/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share hosted by Adam Fine Wine & Liquor held at Sophie’s Place in Redondo Beach, CA.

2011 vintage.

Pours a murky dark brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a thin cap on top of the beer. Foamy streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, coffee, cocoa, and some slight dark fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with a medium amount of roasty bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is tasty and easy to drink.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.94/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

just shared a bottle from 2008, listed at 10.7% abv. wow what a few years can do to a beer like this! it poured a weird looking yeast laden milky brown color with almost no head. not very appetizing at all in fact. the smell was nice though, lots of alcohol, wood, licorice, and dark roasty malts. flavor is rather mellow compared to the nose, probably a product of age. notes of bitter dark chocolate come through the very boozy nature of this one. feel is great, pure satin in the mouth. minimal carbonation at this point, but it still has a resonating sort of feel on the tongue. overall a really interesting stout, and one id like to try fresh next time for a comparison. i am sure the age has really altered the character of this beer, but it was certainly a treat.

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Photo of metter98
3.79/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: The beer is close to being black in color - traces of red are visible near the sides of the glass when held up to a bright light. It poured with just a few large bubbles on the surface that faded away, leaving in thin collar of off white bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Aromas of dark malts as well as Belgian and earthy yeast are present in the nose.
T: The taste mostly follows the smell and has a light amount of bitterness along with lingering notes of roasted malts and unsweetened cocoa towards the finish.
M: It feels slightly more than medium-bodied on the palate and has a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer isn't nearly as full-bodied compared to some other Russian Imperial Stouts but is quite drinkable because it masks all of the alcohol.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.78/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A boldly flavored Stout with heavy sweetness to combat the roast and hop on slaught.

Disputin (as boasted by the lable) pours with a medium to dark brown color, much lighter than normally expected from these monsterous Stouts. Creamy head character carries a tan hue, forms in very sturdy fashion, retains very well, and leaves very deliberate rings of lace on the glass as the beer fades. A very impressive look.

Espresso, cocoa, and heavy cream fill the nose in moderate fashion but not strong. Earthy/grassy hops lurk behind the sweetness and roast. Not overly estery or yeasty, the beer's aroma stays on course with the display of coffee, chocolate, hops, and sweeter notes.

Flavors of heavy roast hit the tongue first but with a quick rebuttal of malty sweetness and perhaps milk sugars. These round out the harsher edges of roast and nearly over take the beer. The creamy-sweetness meets the grassy hops at mid palate in a somewhat unsettled way. Hop bitterness intensifies going into the finish, as well does the roasty/toasty/esprsso taste. An revisit of bittersweet cocoa and a grassy-hop bitterness give a long lasting impression in the aftertaste.

The assertive sweetness early on makes the beer feel much more weighted and nearly oily on the tongue and palate. But the thinning of 11% abv cuts through the sweetess and gives an impression of dryness and heat in the finish. The beer could be a bit astringent but is warded off by the milky sweetness.

Kinda what I expect from De Molen's Stouts- a reckless amount of black malt and unattenuated sweetness give a unique roasty/sugary interplay. And with the earthy hops surfacing from time to time for balance and intrigue.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

330ml bottle, 10.4% ABV, and again, good for 25 years - I like the optimism! And the fact that they can sell this product with the original name here in Canada, though the Yankee lienee's label is the more striking of the two.

This beer pours a clear, very dark amber-highlighted brown - black from afar, but far from black - with two fingers of puffy and creamy beige head, which displays some sturdy retention, dragging the lace down to a low ebbing shoreline detritus.

It smells of edgy, somewhat acidic black fruit, further boozy raisin, bittersweet chocolate, ash, a toasted toffee graininess, and musty, earthy hops. The taste is big, big, gritty chocolate malt, some adjoining sweet roasted grain, soused sour dark fleshy fruit, a bit of edgy, metallic alcohol, and bitter herbal, leafy hops.

The carbonation is low-lying, and just supportive, the body a hefty, but spry medium weight, and fairly smooth, with a touch of creaminess in amongst the remarkably restrained barbs of heat. It finishes quite sweet, the chocolate, fruit, and booze carrying the day in the face of that increasingly weird herbal hop character.

While there are some indicators that could recommend this as more than just an average RIS, there are more that point it towards generic (not a bad thing) strong ale territory. Not a bad big beer, just lacking the roasted fullness of the better examples of the genre. That, and those herbal notes really don't help the cause.

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Photo of brentk56
4.27/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottle 206 of 524 (Brewed on 08 May 2008)

Appearance: Pours the color of black coffee, with a very modest head that fades to a ringlet; numerous squiggles of lacing drape the chalice

Smell: Chocolate covered raisins, Sherry, roast and Ethiopian Yirgacheffe coffee (blueberries)

Taste: Chocolate and blueberry forward, with Sherry and dark fruit elements building; some roasted tones develop, after the swallow, but the chocolate and fruit intermingle into the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with low to moderate carbonation

Overall: Not many beers can hold up for eight years (although the bottle suggests this one can last 25) and I suspect that time has tempered the 10.7% ABV and modified the flavors somewhat; still, the fruity aspect here is something I really enjoy and is missing from so many domestically brewed Russian Imperial Stouts; I am giving this one high marks for bringing the fruit back into the flavor profile - I have been looking for this for a long time

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Photo of Phyl21ca
4.23/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep black color ale with a super huge foamy dirty brown head with great retention and very good lacing. Aroma is nice mix of lightly sweet black chocolate with some hints of fry coffee and well balance roasted malt. Taste is also a very well balance mix between some black chocolate, dry coffee and lightly bitter roasted malt with a good dose of sweetness. Hops don't play a huge role here and it is just perfect the way it is. Body is not totally full for the style with some great carbonation and no sign of the alcohol. Very well done and I still don't understand what this is not rated higher.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.47/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle poured into La Chouffe tulip in Gouda, Holland. Reviewed live. Acquired at De Molen.

A: 1.5 finger head of nice cream and thickness, slight tan colour, and of good retention especially for the ABV. Solid black colour.

Sm: Cream, caramel, vanilla, and some chocolate notes. A mild strength scent, but an exciting one.

T: Lovely caramel and cream, with wonderful vanilla tones. The chocolate is buried alongside some toffee, and blossoms on the climax. Very complex and wonderfully built. Quite nicely balanced.

Mf: Smooth and wet, but thick enough to support the flavours.

Dr: High ABV is well concealed, fair price for the quality - which is high. Very drinkable and worth a try.


(As "Rasputin")

04.03.2016: 2009 vintage 750ml bottle courtesy of the shopkeeper at Plan B Rotterdam. Thanks, man!

81.7 IBU. O.G. 1102. F.G. 1023. 464 bottles were in this batch. This is batch 0158. 10.7% ABV. Brewed on 30 June 2009, Bottled on 30 July 2009. Has a (heavily) waxed over hood-and-wire cap over a cork.

Cork flies out with force upon removal of the crown cap - my cork shot out and hit the ceiling! 7 years of age hasn't mellowed the carbonation one bit.

A: Head lasts less than 20 seconds, but was a pale khaki. Leaves no lacing as it recedes. Body is, predictably, an opaque black.

Looks average for a Russian Imperial Stout. Lacks any unique or special characteristics.

Sm: Licorice, maybe anise or fennel, caramel, dark bread, cocoa powder, dried prune, sugarcane, subtle rum-soaked (indistinct) fruit. Dark malts.

I detect no hop character whatsoever; any Premiant or Saaz hops have faded with age.

T: Suggestions of dark fruit (raisin chief amongst them, but prune trailing behind), dark malts, probably chocolate malts though it comes across as more of a cocoa powder character, licorice, sugarcane. Balanced but a bit shallow; it seems this beer's depth of flavour has taken a hit with the 7 years of age it has. It's certainly not the intricate robust brew you might expect given it's a Russian imperial stout.

Mf: Chewy and coarse on the palate, with subtle dryness. This mouthfeel accentuates the withered fruit character of the taste with its roughness on the palate and chewy raisin-like gooey texture. Full-bodied, though not as robust as many imperial stouts. Perhaps the mouthfeel has thinned out a bit with age. Carbonation is actually perfect, contrary to what the cork pop suggested.

O: Age has brought out more of the dark fruit, and intensified the raisin, making it dominate in the flavour profile. Any chocolate or vanilla character has really receded, though, so it's a trade-off. This vintage is a Russian imperial stout for the quadrupel lover, but honestly I prefer it fresh...and it might be ideal with 3-5 years of age on it rather than ~7 to balance out the malt sweetness and dry fruit notes.


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Photo of oline73
4.15/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

I had this on-tap at Max's. Poured into a sample glass.

Appearance: Pours almost black with a little bit of fluffy off white head and some mild lacing.

Smell: Roast and dark chocolate/cocoa with a bit of dark fruit in the background.

Taste: The flavor of this one is remarkably smooth. The roasted malt and chocolate flavors mix together perfectly along with a sweetness that isn't overpowering. There are some mild dark fruit notes with a roasty finish.

Mouthfeel: The body is on the thick side of medium with tingly carbonation and a slick finish.

Overall: I thought this beer was very good, better than I expected. The alcohol was hardly noticeable at all. I'm glad I went with the sampler, because this one would have been way too easy to drink more.

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Photo of Thorpe429
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at Churchkey. Reviewed from notes.

Pours near black and is quite opaque. A bit thick, but not too far toward motor oil. Nose brings forward sweet malt, chocolate, roast, and a bit of vanilla. The taste is roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla, coffee, and some residual sweetness. Fairly thick mouthfeel with good drinkability all around. A nice take on the style.

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Photo of jlindros
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Had on tap@ Armsby Abbey.

Pours a huge thick frothy semi dark head that fades very slowlyi in the snifter glass. The beer is essentially pitch black. A nice lacing left all over the glass.

Nose brings some light dark roasty malts, some juicy dark fruits, light fluffy nougat like sweet malts, a light chocolate, just a hint of booze.

Taste is rich, lots of thick chocolate, malted milk balls, choc coveted raisins, little bakers choc, creamy malts, little roast, caramel, vanilla, dark fruits, more creamy fluffy nougat, bit of toffee, slightly nutty, some bitterness from a bit of earthy hops and plenty from the roasted malts, a slight bit of minerality and slightest touch of sulfur from all the scorched malts, and a slight warming booze. Finishes slightly sticky and mouth coating, with lingering bitterness and plenty of roasted malts and chocolate.

Mouth is fairly thick, rich, slightly creamy, with prefect carbonation.Hint of warming booze.

Drinkabilty is so so with slight warming booze but much less than the almost 11% that it actually is. A slight sticky and mouth coating finish, pretty rich and thick and semi sweet, as well as a bit of the minerality.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
4.01/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Pours a dark brown body with a full, foamy, ecru-colored head.

Smell: Somewhat mild aroma, with subtle hints of blackened barley, chocolate, licorice, and spades worth of good, hearty soil.

Taste: Roasted malts with a flavor of dark chocolate and a mild sweetness. Small handful of spicy licorice. Slight earthy bitterness. The alcohol presence, while noticeable, is never obnoxious or overwhelming. Another helping of licorice for the warming finish.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium carbonation. Luscious creamy mouthfeel.

Drinkability: A marvelous Dutch beer. Exceedingly drinkable for 11%.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.42/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I picked up this one online a couple of months ago, as I really wanted to try it based on some thoughts by a fellow BA. I decided to grab this one up out of the cellar last night to see how it was doing and to finally give it a try. Served at cellar temperature and poured into an oversized pint glass, this one was consumed on 09/16/2008.

Bottle #403 of 524.

The pour was very nice. Though I have to admit most unlike most other RIS I have had. A deep, dark, russet tinted brown. Lots of reddish hues coming through this one throughout the session. Not nearly opaque, but yet very dark indeed. A nice head, maybe two inches high came up over the top and settled down slowly leaving behind a very nice billow if tan across the top and really just a great amount of side glass lace to it. The only thing I could think of that detracted from this one was the lack of the pitch black darkness you would normally find.

The aroma was much like a quad at first, and to be honest reminded me a lot of the Black Albert I had. Deep rich notes of roasted malts, dark cherries, currant and a touch of fig. Very complex and interesting take on the style. Not those vanilla bombed, molasses infused chocolate stouts we have all come to love, this was dark alright, just in a different vane then the others were. The flavor was just as amazing and in fact went through several transformations as it approached its room temperature peak. At first it was much like a very big quad, lots of cherry and dark fruit like flavors mixed in with a roasted, almost smoky malt that served to let you know this was indeed a stout. As it warmed though it started to peak through with a bit of cocoa, just the slightest touch of sweetness coming through now but still, that dark, cherry and currant like flavor that was all over this. The slightest bit of tartness working its way though as well, really just plowing over the flavor at the end leaving me with a long drawn out flavor, somewhat dry, and a nice touch of sweetness on the tongue.

The feel was very interesting. First off it was much light then most of you big stouts, but at the same time it was much more carbonated then most of the big stouts as well. Really very well put together, there was never a moment when it was flat in any way or even the slightest bit boring. This was definitely a sipper as I actually had to take pause when trying to finish the entire bottle off, but after a couple hours I sipped my way through it, but this was definitely a big beer to say the least.

Overall though this was really great. I do not think it would be fair to compare this one in the same arena as Kate or a Dark Lord or Abyss. This was a totally different style of beer. This beer is one of the reasons I think that we need to move to a new category for the Belgian Imperial Stout. This is a very different beast that needs to be appreciated as such. This was a markedly good beer that should be enjoyed by everyone.

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Photo of dbrauneis
3.98/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Note: Bottled 26 AUG 2014

A: Pours a clear yet still opaque jet black in color with light to moderate amounts of gentle visible carbonation along the edges of the glass and moderate amounts of dark cola brown and garnet red highlights. The beer has a quarter finger tall sudsy tan head that reduces to a medium sized patch of thin film and a thin ring at the edges of the glass. Moderate amounts of lacing are observed.

S: Moderate to strong aromas of dark malts, roasted malts, dark chocolate, coffee, and dark fruits (plum + fig). Light hints of Belgian yeast.

T: Upfront there are moderate to strong flavors of dark malts and moderate flavors of roasted malts with a moderate amount of dark fruit (plum and fig) sweetness. That is followed by moderate flavors of coffee and unsweetened dark chocolate. Finally there is a light flavor of Belgian yeast in the finish.

M: Medium to heavy bodied with light to moderate amounts of carbonation.

O: Lighter in body than a lot of other RIS beers but perhaps a little easier drinking as a result of the that and the well hidden alcohol. Very enjoyable and a nice example of the flavors of the style.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.01/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I picked this up at state line, shared with tenderbranson69 enjoyed chilled in a goblet and sampler glass.

The color is very dark brown with translucent appearance and coffee color with light tan head the compresses to a ring with spotty lace. Smell is very chocolatey in the malt aroma with some mild coffee and earthy vanilla scent with a light spice from hops. The feel is great with lots of smooth malt with a subtle bitterness level balanced by the sweetness of the malt with mild alcohol in the finish.

The taste is very good with a dark cocoa and creamy roasted malt flavor with some gentle chocolate and vanilla blend that adds to the coffee and slight dried fruit flavors. The mild yeast flavor adds to a slight stone fruit accent which blends well with the roasted and caramel malt body. Overall I really like this...extremely drinkable for the strength however I would not drink it alone unless I had nothing planned it is velvety and deceptive.

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Photo of TMoney2591
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a snifter at The Firkin.

I've been staring at the bottle for some time...luckily a draft option showed up, helping ease my decision-making process. It pours a deep obsidian topped by a finger of tan foam. The nose comprises darkly roasted malts, dark chocolate, molasses, and clove. The taste holds notes of bitter coffee, roasted malts, sickly sweet dark chocolate syrup, blackstrap molasses, maple syrup, fig, and burnt grass. The sweetness is overwhelming at times and is then followed up by a strange bitterness from the coffee and grass. Things just don't meld well on my tongue. The body is fairly hefty, with a light moderate carbonation and a nearly chewy feel. Overall, this could have been a pretty damn fine stout, but the flavors just don't work. Rather have a Rasputin...tee hee...

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Photo of Huhzubendah
3.41/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Very dark russet brown with a decent head and lacing.

S: Sweet malt, alcohol. Very little roasted malt aromas. This doesn't smell like a RIS to me.

T: A decent tasting brew, but I just don't get how this is a RIS. It's sweeter than I would like with very little roasted malt flavor. Also lacking any coffee or chocolate nuances that I always find enjoyable in a RIS.

M: Alcohol too present, otherwise a decent feel.

D: A little too sweet. This beer was misleading. It tasted ok, but left me a little disappointed. I am a huge fan of RIS, and found Rasputin to be a bit off in many regards.

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Photo of stakem
3.85/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2010 bottle, thanks to wishuwerebeer for the share. Pours a dark brown with a finger of tan head that quickly dissolves. Lighter brown and ruby clarity is seen when held to the light. A light swirl revives the cap back to a finger.

The smell initially is chocolate with roasted grain elements. A bit of citrus bean coffee twang is also present. Tangy fruity alcohol is also thrown into the mix along with citrus and fruity notes of hops across the back.

The flavor is roasty chocolate from the dark kilned grains, it mixes with a tangy alcohol feel. A little bit of coffee and dark fruits are also present reminding me of prune and/or raisins. Some sulfur and musty aspects are felt across the back as it warms up.

This is a medium to light feeling brew with decent arrangement of flavor and alvohol warmth. The overall arrangement is like bitter brownie batter but watered down just a bit in the feel. Worth a try for sure and certainly different from it's American made nemesis.

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Photo of smakawhat
3.93/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A very dark brownblack walnut body with a light and creamy off tan head. Some spider like lacing while drinking. Looks good.

A light roast smell but not much else going on, perhaps some barleywine like fruitness, kind of taken a-back by this strangely.

Taste is a very creamy texture even a mild hop bitterness. Soft texture with also soft wood like tannins. Medium like roast character and so soft malt.

Overall, great feel to this drink and for a whopping eleven percent abv hardly noticeably boozy. Super enjoyable roast velvet stout.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.73/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to d0b for sharing this brew on New Beer Sunday. Served in a NotLA taster glass. Bottle #14 of 524, bottled June 2nd, 2008.

A - Pours with a two fingers of pillowy tan foam that dissipates slowly and leaves a good amount of sticky lacing and a thick solid cap. Brown color with some ruby-red highlights at the sides and bottom of the glass. More reminiscent of Belgian stouts than of Americans in terms of colors. A few bubbles and lots of suspended sediment.

S - There's a fairly strong dark fruit influence, but also some cocoa and light coffee flavors. There's some light vanilla influence and some developing lactic flavors as well, but the booze is fairly well-hidden. Nothing spectacular, but still pretty decent.

T - There's a lot of earthiness in the flavor along with a touch of caramel, and tons of bitterness in the finish. I'm guessing this is from the 81 IBUs and the advertised Premiant and Saaz hops. There isn't enough sweetness to counteract the bitterness, so this gets fatiguing pretty quickly.

M - Higher carbonation than you'd expect from an RIS. Medium body, with viscosity and a fairly smooth texture. A bit of heat, but not unexpected for 11% brew.

D - The earthy and bitter flavor gets tiring pretty quickly, but otherwise the ABV is well hidden and the texture is pretty nice. Still the 750ml bottle was way too much for two of us.

Update - found ancient notes on a 330cl bottle shared by dschuster03. I was harder on that bottle, as it was nearly flat (3.5/4.0/3.5/4.0/4.0). The smaller bottle was also slightly more fruity and quad-influenced. I think I was more easygoing about drinkability as I only had to drink half as much!

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 1 Nov 2011.

A - Poured dark brown, settled black with a small layer of light brown head.

S - Roast, sweet molasses and brown sugar. Fairly sweet overall nose.

T - Roasted malts, molasses, brown sugar. A slight bitterness is present but this is fairly sweet overall.

M - Medium body. Light carbonation.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.74/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Reuben's Brew snifter. Pours pitch black with little signs of carbonation in the pour, but resulting in a thin light brown film and ring around the glass that leaves light lacing. Light aroma of sweet toasted malt, vanilla and chocolate. Flavor is heavy toasted malt, molasses, dark dried fruit, a hint of coffee. Finishes with charred malt and bittering hops, slightly astringent. Medium bodied with a mild creaminess, faint carbonation. A dark flavored stout, leaning towards blackstrap molasses and charred, toasted malt. The flavors are dense, but not that complex or balanced. The finish is a bit stark. This is an interesting and rich stout, but left me wishing for a bit more balance. Worth a try, but not remarkable. The char and bitterness in the finish was a bit offputting at first, but grew on me as I drank the glass.

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Photo of Wasatch
4.5/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks goes out to lightindarkness for this brew.


Brewed 14 Dec 2007
Bottled 1 Feb 2008
Batch 524
Bottle 459

Poured into my St. Bernardus Watou glass, a very nice black color, nice carbonation, very nice one-finger plus tan head, lots of nice small islands and sticky lacing left behind. The nose is malty, with some hops, dark fruit, slight toffee, some vanilla. The taste is sweet, malty, nice little touch of hops, dark fruit, slight toffee and vanilla. Medium body, the finish is dry/slightly bitter. The alcohol is hidden very well. Very drinkable, this reminds me of a BSDA/RIS hybrid, highly recommended. Thanks Christian.

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Photo of BARFLYB
4.1/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This one has been in my cellar for a while and I figured it was time to pop the cork on this rarity. Bottle #145 out of 580ish. Poured into some snifters with Oglmcdgl. 2008

A- Rasputin certainly does not look like a RIS coming out of the bottle with a dirty dark brown color. Once condensed in the glass it still does not look 100% black. This one is the darkest brown ive seen recently. The head is 1/2 inch in height and has a vanilla look to it. Pretty nice lacing.

S- Again, not what I was expecting in a RIS, but it's good to have variety at times. Rasputin has a big vanilla cream thing to it with some chocolate following. Big amounts of malt were used in this fromthe smell with some roast to it. Not really picking up any of the three varieties of hops used, probably faded. Molasses and dark fruits round this out.

T- Well, this certainly does not taste like a normal RIS either, but im not complaining. Somewhere between a strong ale and a Belgian dark ale because the ripe dark fruit is up front with raisins also. Light chocolate and vanilla cream. Some caramel from the malt with some roast. Getting just a bit of hops on the back of my tounge. While the alcohol is well hidden, it's not completely hidden. Rasputin is on the sweet side of things.

M- Swishing this around my mouth, I did pick up some alcohol, but this was not hot in any sense of the word. I actually enjoyed the bit of booze I got from this. Also found this very light for a RIS, but this is a step up from medium bodied with just a touch of carb felt. Sweet, smooth and tasty.

D- Well I shared the bottle(what are friends for) but I could of done it myself because of the light nature of this version of a ris. Very easy to drink, hardly bitter (if at all) and tasty. Since this was coming from the Netherlands, I did not expect a full balls to the wall RIS, and because of that I was not dissapointed.

Perhaps De Molen should put a different style on the bottle so American's looking for DL type RIS will not be dissapointed. IMO, a Belgian strong dark ale will do. Im very skeptical that this will last 25 years in the cellar though, but what do I know.

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