Moord & Doodslag (Disputin) | Brouwerij De Molen

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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.70%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".

Added by ChainGangGuy on 03-30-2008

BEER STATS
Ratings:
424
Reviews:
181
Avg:
3.88
pDev:
14.43%
 
 
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42
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104
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Photo of threedaggers
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%

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2.75/5  rDev -29.1%

Photo of charlzm
2.98/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Consumed January 27th 2014 from an 11.2 oz capped bottle labeled "13 /09/12". Beer label is Cease & Desist, not Disputin. Poured into a Klokke Roeland goblet.

The beer is much lighter than expected for a Russian Imperial Stout: more deep brown than the standard black. A 3 finger tan head sits atop the beer at first pour, but soon settles down to a mere thin skin of foam. No sheeting that sticks longer than a few moments.

Aroma is strange for an RIS, too; instead of the usual aromas, this has a bit of a metallic scent complemented by a sweet malt note. No sign of the usual coffee or chocolate.

Flavor has an unfortunate sour, metallic note. Some darkly roasted malt is apparent in the flavor; probably the chocolate malt. Somewhat acidic. Finish is slightly warming and moderately bitter. Did they use champagne yeast to ferment this?

A little bit thick (emphasis on little) and certainly warming in the mouth.

I have home brewed an Imperial Stout that was as good as this one and that is not bragging. Maybe the 16 month age was more than this brew could stand?

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Photo of anticipation23
3.25/5  rDev -16.2%

Photo of BierJager89
4.39/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Dark brown with lots of mocha foam.

S: Roasted malt, coffee, brown sugar, sweet molasses and chocolate in the nose.

T: Dark chocolate, coffee, molasses and roasted malt.

M: Full bodied and smoothish.

O: Not as good as Hel & Verdoemenis, but a damn good example of the style.

Note: I don't think this beer is called Disputin any more. My bottle said Cease & Desist.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.74/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Reuben's Brew snifter. Pours pitch black with little signs of carbonation in the pour, but resulting in a thin light brown film and ring around the glass that leaves light lacing. Light aroma of sweet toasted malt, vanilla and chocolate. Flavor is heavy toasted malt, molasses, dark dried fruit, a hint of coffee. Finishes with charred malt and bittering hops, slightly astringent. Medium bodied with a mild creaminess, faint carbonation. A dark flavored stout, leaning towards blackstrap molasses and charred, toasted malt. The flavors are dense, but not that complex or balanced. The finish is a bit stark. This is an interesting and rich stout, but left me wishing for a bit more balance. Worth a try, but not remarkable. The char and bitterness in the finish was a bit offputting at first, but grew on me as I drank the glass.

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Photo of MaximalC
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

*Brewed 9-13-12*

Pours a peculiar murky brown color, like copious amounts of dirt in suspension, with burnt orange highlights. There is no head to speak of. I would not have pegged this for a stout based on its appearance. The aroma, sniffed directly from the bottle before pouring, is amazing--blackberry, cherry, currants, molasses, and pie crust come to mind.

The taste features the same tart, dark fruits described above, with cherry being the primary contributor. The sour aspect leans toward apple cider vinegar as it warms. A caramel-like sweetness contrasts with the tartness of the cherry. Alcohol is well concealed, with only a tasteful amount of warming coming through in the finish. The mouthfeel is peculiar as well, with a heterogeneous texture akin to miso broth. It's difficult to describe, but it's almost as if the beer is more substantive upon first imbibing, and then "melts" in your mouth (if such a thing can be said of a liquid).

Overall, this is one of the most unusual beers I've ever tried. It looks and tastes NOTHING like an imperial stout. If someone told me they slapped the wrong label on it, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. Unusual mouthfeel aside, it comes off as something in between a sour ale and a quad--a real headscratcher.

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Photo of MattSalisbury
2.75/5  rDev -29.1%

Photo of SalisburySteak
2.5/5  rDev -35.6%

Photo of EyePeeAyBryan
4/5  rDev +3.1%

Photo of SourAddict
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%

Photo of Anatole
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of hoegaardenhero
2.76/5  rDev -28.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

a: this beer pours a very deep red/brown with very notable red highlights. no head, just a ring of light bubbles around the top of the glass.

s: sweet and raisiny; stings the back of the nostrils with alcohol; prunes; very mild sweet chocolate; maybe a little bit of vanilla; actually quite nice and strong sweet blend of dark fruits, chocolate, and booze;

t: very tangy/sharp/sour and maybe a little fungal? i get some raisiny sweetness but almost no coffee or chocolate flavors/may be an off bottle?

m: tight refined bubbles, which i am enjoying and keeps it from bing too cloying for the style; pretty light body for the style, which i am kind of digging -

d: this is a really disappointing beer to me - taste is strange and not at all balanced. i actually ended up pouring the last half down the drain, which i almost never do b/c i am a cheap bastard.

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Photo of Hallertau
3.25/5  rDev -16.2%

Photo of dipso123
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

Photo of ncaudle
3.5/5  rDev -9.8%

Photo of Rado
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of WolfsbaneBloom
2.5/5  rDev -35.6%

Photo of jrenihan
3.61/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled Feb 11, 2011. Mine is called Rasputin rather than Disputin.

Beer is black with no head whatsoever.

Nose contains molasses and anise. Seems a bit sweet. No hint of roasted malt.

Taste is fine, but not impressive. Anise, molasses, sweet treacle? Chocolate. A notable fruity flavour that is odd and a bit hard to place. Rather tropical.

Full bodied, almost no carbonation. Quite syrupy.

Overall, disappointing. Not sure if this was a bad bottle, but it is worlds away from the Hel & Verdoemenis.

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Photo of WMD-1002
4.5/5  rDev +16%

Photo of Slatetank
4.01/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I picked this up at state line, shared with tenderbranson69 enjoyed chilled in a goblet and sampler glass.

The color is very dark brown with translucent appearance and coffee color with light tan head the compresses to a ring with spotty lace. Smell is very chocolatey in the malt aroma with some mild coffee and earthy vanilla scent with a light spice from hops. The feel is great with lots of smooth malt with a subtle bitterness level balanced by the sweetness of the malt with mild alcohol in the finish.

The taste is very good with a dark cocoa and creamy roasted malt flavor with some gentle chocolate and vanilla blend that adds to the coffee and slight dried fruit flavors. The mild yeast flavor adds to a slight stone fruit accent which blends well with the roasted and caramel malt body. Overall I really like this...extremely drinkable for the strength however I would not drink it alone unless I had nothing planned it is velvety and deceptive.

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Photo of BColton1
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of pkalix
4.72/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

cease & desist from 13/09/12.... love the label wording... if it is true, I have to side with these guys. I mean, really North Coast? you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, if that is really all it was...
mine says 10.4% abv and is a beautiful dark mahogany brown. smell is of sweet ripe cherries, sherry, brandy. I could keep my nose inside this glass forever! I felt this was a 5 on smell....
i'm getting some interesting lacing on the sides of the glass. it's like a heavier, yeasty kind of sud, almost solid, but it washes apart when the liquid is sloshed up to it. very interesting!
taste is dark fruits, fig. booze-soaked raisin, as I've heard others say and now I totally understand that description... a little 'thinner' than most American stouts, but I prefer it that way. I don't much care for the thicker, syrup-y stouts, or the over-loaded coffee ones. it's too easy to go in that direction....
this is really nice. plain bottle, except for a little competitor bashing (if you can even consider them 'competition'); no fanfare, just a black n white bottle with a decent-tasting product. not the best in the world, but then what is? it's what fits in your hand and on your tongue right now and this one always seems to be above average regardless of the 'current conditions'. everything I have had from this line up has been above average and quite noble. very much inline with some of the better stouts I've tasted and yet with a much fairer price. for an import! that's why I keep buying this stuff....

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Photo of draheim
3.57/5  rDev -8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cease & Desist, 11.2oz (bottled 2/27/2013) into a snifter. Opens with barely a weak pfft, pours out with almost zero head. Pitch black, some light gets through around the edges. Looks kind of like a flat glass of Coke.

Aroma is chocolate, roasty malt, and dark fruits.

Taste is bitter malt, coffee, dark chocolate, and sugary dates and figs, molasses. Very sweet.

Mouthfeel is sticky and coating with a lingering aftertaste.

Overall, this is an okay imperial stout but there are certainly better ones in a crowded field.

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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin) from Brouwerij De Molen
3.88 out of 5 based on 424 ratings.
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