Moord & Doodslag (Disputin) | Brouwerij De Molen

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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)Moord & Doodslag (Disputin)

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Brouwerij De Molen

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.70%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".

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Photo of Liquid_Bread
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%

On tap at Monk's Cafe in Philadelphia, this is a thick and delicious stout, closer to Hunahpu than most things I've tasted. Definitely worth it for all stout lovers.

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Photo of dgilks
3.92/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch black with a big, fluffy tan head. Great head retention.

Sweet and almost citrussy. Touches of chocolate and alcohol. Plenty of hop character.

Sharply hoppy stout. There is a rich alcohol character sitting under the malt with chocolate and light roast following. Citrussy hops back it up. The fruitiness really works well.

Medium-full body with moderate carbonation. Really good.

A solid beer. Great flavour and all round performer.

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Photo of beerdrifter
3.29/5  rDev -15.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Picked this up at the beer store at Brouwerij De Molen with a bottling date of 27 July 2011. Dark brown, nearly black pour with a two finger caramel colored head with decent retention and lacing. The nose is much sweeter than expected with not a lot of roast or chocolate, hints of caramel, toffee, and brown sugar. The taste follows suit. Way sweeter than the typical De Molen offerings with hints of vanilla, molasses, toasted malt, dark fruit, and a touch of coffee. The body is very thin and somewhat syrupy and cloying with minimal carbonation. Overall, the most disappointing offering I've ever had from De Molen. Very hard to drink due to the syrupy sweetness.

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Photo of SStein
3.34/5  rDev -13.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Pours a nice dark, deep brown with slight khaki lacing, which disappears quickly. There is very little carbonation. The nose is of coffee and wheat. The wheat reminds me of Fat Tire. The taste is slightly of coffee, mixed with a sour wheat taste. As I drink it, it is very thin, much thinner than I prefer for this style. As a RIS I find this beer lacking, as a dark wheat beer, it's not too bad.

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Photo of charlzm
2.98/5  rDev -23.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3

Consumed January 27th 2014 from an 11.2 oz capped bottle labeled "13 /09/12". Beer label is Cease & Desist, not Disputin. Poured into a Klokke Roeland goblet.

The beer is much lighter than expected for a Russian Imperial Stout: more deep brown than the standard black. A 3 finger tan head sits atop the beer at first pour, but soon settles down to a mere thin skin of foam. No sheeting that sticks longer than a few moments.

Aroma is strange for an RIS, too; instead of the usual aromas, this has a bit of a metallic scent complemented by a sweet malt note. No sign of the usual coffee or chocolate.

Flavor has an unfortunate sour, metallic note. Some darkly roasted malt is apparent in the flavor; probably the chocolate malt. Somewhat acidic. Finish is slightly warming and moderately bitter. Did they use champagne yeast to ferment this?

A little bit thick (emphasis on little) and certainly warming in the mouth.

I have home brewed an Imperial Stout that was as good as this one and that is not bragging. Maybe the 16 month age was more than this brew could stand?

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Photo of BierJager89
4.39/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Dark brown with lots of mocha foam.

S: Roasted malt, coffee, brown sugar, sweet molasses and chocolate in the nose.

T: Dark chocolate, coffee, molasses and roasted malt.

M: Full bodied and smoothish.

O: Not as good as Hel & Verdoemenis, but a damn good example of the style.

Note: I don't think this beer is called Disputin any more. My bottle said Cease & Desist.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.74/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a Reuben's Brew snifter. Pours pitch black with little signs of carbonation in the pour, but resulting in a thin light brown film and ring around the glass that leaves light lacing. Light aroma of sweet toasted malt, vanilla and chocolate. Flavor is heavy toasted malt, molasses, dark dried fruit, a hint of coffee. Finishes with charred malt and bittering hops, slightly astringent. Medium bodied with a mild creaminess, faint carbonation. A dark flavored stout, leaning towards blackstrap molasses and charred, toasted malt. The flavors are dense, but not that complex or balanced. The finish is a bit stark. This is an interesting and rich stout, but left me wishing for a bit more balance. Worth a try, but not remarkable. The char and bitterness in the finish was a bit offputting at first, but grew on me as I drank the glass.

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Photo of MaximalC
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

*Brewed 9-13-12*

Pours a peculiar murky brown color, like copious amounts of dirt in suspension, with burnt orange highlights. There is no head to speak of. I would not have pegged this for a stout based on its appearance. The aroma, sniffed directly from the bottle before pouring, is amazing--blackberry, cherry, currants, molasses, and pie crust come to mind.

The taste features the same tart, dark fruits described above, with cherry being the primary contributor. The sour aspect leans toward apple cider vinegar as it warms. A caramel-like sweetness contrasts with the tartness of the cherry. Alcohol is well concealed, with only a tasteful amount of warming coming through in the finish. The mouthfeel is peculiar as well, with a heterogeneous texture akin to miso broth. It's difficult to describe, but it's almost as if the beer is more substantive upon first imbibing, and then "melts" in your mouth (if such a thing can be said of a liquid).

Overall, this is one of the most unusual beers I've ever tried. It looks and tastes NOTHING like an imperial stout. If someone told me they slapped the wrong label on it, I wouldn't be surprised in the least. Unusual mouthfeel aside, it comes off as something in between a sour ale and a quad--a real headscratcher.

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Photo of hoegaardenhero
2.76/5  rDev -28.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

a: this beer pours a very deep red/brown with very notable red highlights. no head, just a ring of light bubbles around the top of the glass.

s: sweet and raisiny; stings the back of the nostrils with alcohol; prunes; very mild sweet chocolate; maybe a little bit of vanilla; actually quite nice and strong sweet blend of dark fruits, chocolate, and booze;

t: very tangy/sharp/sour and maybe a little fungal? i get some raisiny sweetness but almost no coffee or chocolate flavors/may be an off bottle?

m: tight refined bubbles, which i am enjoying and keeps it from bing too cloying for the style; pretty light body for the style, which i am kind of digging -

d: this is a really disappointing beer to me - taste is strange and not at all balanced. i actually ended up pouring the last half down the drain, which i almost never do b/c i am a cheap bastard.

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Photo of jrenihan
3.61/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled Feb 11, 2011. Mine is called Rasputin rather than Disputin.

Beer is black with no head whatsoever.

Nose contains molasses and anise. Seems a bit sweet. No hint of roasted malt.

Taste is fine, but not impressive. Anise, molasses, sweet treacle? Chocolate. A notable fruity flavour that is odd and a bit hard to place. Rather tropical.

Full bodied, almost no carbonation. Quite syrupy.

Overall, disappointing. Not sure if this was a bad bottle, but it is worlds away from the Hel & Verdoemenis.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.01/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I picked this up at state line, shared with tenderbranson69 enjoyed chilled in a goblet and sampler glass.

The color is very dark brown with translucent appearance and coffee color with light tan head the compresses to a ring with spotty lace. Smell is very chocolatey in the malt aroma with some mild coffee and earthy vanilla scent with a light spice from hops. The feel is great with lots of smooth malt with a subtle bitterness level balanced by the sweetness of the malt with mild alcohol in the finish.

The taste is very good with a dark cocoa and creamy roasted malt flavor with some gentle chocolate and vanilla blend that adds to the coffee and slight dried fruit flavors. The mild yeast flavor adds to a slight stone fruit accent which blends well with the roasted and caramel malt body. Overall I really like this...extremely drinkable for the strength however I would not drink it alone unless I had nothing planned it is velvety and deceptive.

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Photo of pkalix
4.72/5  rDev +21.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

cease & desist from 13/09/12.... love the label wording... if it is true, I have to side with these guys. I mean, really North Coast? you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, if that is really all it was...
mine says 10.4% abv and is a beautiful dark mahogany brown. smell is of sweet ripe cherries, sherry, brandy. I could keep my nose inside this glass forever! I felt this was a 5 on smell....
i'm getting some interesting lacing on the sides of the glass. it's like a heavier, yeasty kind of sud, almost solid, but it washes apart when the liquid is sloshed up to it. very interesting!
taste is dark fruits, fig. booze-soaked raisin, as I've heard others say and now I totally understand that description... a little 'thinner' than most American stouts, but I prefer it that way. I don't much care for the thicker, syrup-y stouts, or the over-loaded coffee ones. it's too easy to go in that direction....
this is really nice. plain bottle, except for a little competitor bashing (if you can even consider them 'competition'); no fanfare, just a black n white bottle with a decent-tasting product. not the best in the world, but then what is? it's what fits in your hand and on your tongue right now and this one always seems to be above average regardless of the 'current conditions'. everything I have had from this line up has been above average and quite noble. very much inline with some of the better stouts I've tasted and yet with a much fairer price. for an import! that's why I keep buying this stuff....

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Photo of draheim
3.57/5  rDev -8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cease & Desist, 11.2oz (bottled 2/27/2013) into a snifter. Opens with barely a weak pfft, pours out with almost zero head. Pitch black, some light gets through around the edges. Looks kind of like a flat glass of Coke.

Aroma is chocolate, roasty malt, and dark fruits.

Taste is bitter malt, coffee, dark chocolate, and sugary dates and figs, molasses. Very sweet.

Mouthfeel is sticky and coating with a lingering aftertaste.

Overall, this is an okay imperial stout but there are certainly better ones in a crowded field.

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.32/5  rDev -40.2%
look: 3 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.25

Poured into a Darkness tulip on 7/1/12

I can't remember was with me when I opened it. Seth had to be there because I was using his glass. Chris might have been there, too.

Brewed on 11 January 2009. Bottled on 16 February 2009. Bottle number 134.

A) On the pour this is surprisingly light brown in color. That said, it does end up rather dark in the glass. The head rises to close to three fingers; this is all rocky, porous foam. However, almost all of it dissipates leaving a soapy layer of retention and some sporadic trails of lace.

S) The aroma is disarmingly thin and timid. Oxidation permeates the entire aroma. Lots of dark fruits, too. Raisins and prunes. Sweet, but not overly sugary.

T) The flavor is even more fruity and heavy on raisins (twangy raisins no less). Too much on the side of tangy, sugary fruits. Roast and burnt notes are basically nonexistent.

M) Medium body. The feel is very smooth and moderately slick. Carbonation is tilted toward the lower side. Some sugary residuals.

D) Though this is not entirely bad or unenjoyable, it is simply not impressive. I wouldn't be inclined to get it again.

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Photo of metter98
3.79/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: The beer is close to being black in color - traces of red are visible near the sides of the glass when held up to a bright light. It poured with just a few large bubbles on the surface that faded away, leaving in thin collar of off white bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Aromas of dark malts as well as Belgian and earthy yeast are present in the nose.
T: The taste mostly follows the smell and has a light amount of bitterness along with lingering notes of roasted malts and unsweetened cocoa towards the finish.
M: It feels slightly more than medium-bodied on the palate and has a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer isn't nearly as full-bodied compared to some other Russian Imperial Stouts but is quite drinkable because it masks all of the alcohol.

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Photo of cindyjeffsmith
4.25/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2009 vintage. Bday gift from my generous pal.
Appearance: very dark brown. Cola highlight. For an 11%er, a fair size tan head and lacing. Handsome brew.
Smell: very interesting. Certainly not your run o the mill stout nose. Dark fruit is the most prominent characteristic. Rich, sweet cherry and malt.
Taste: very much like the nose but with a nicely dry finish.
Overall: very nice. Surprised this is not rated higher on Ba. Maybe the 4 years has turned this into a different, better beer? Outstanding.

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Photo of eduardolinhalis
3.83/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

330ml bottle served in a snifter glass.

Bottle says Rasputin. ABV 10.4%. Apparently, a variation of Disputin.
Bottle at 25/02/2013.

A: Pours a deep black color forming a minimal beige head. Minimal retention and only few small spotty lacings left in the glass. A thin bubbled head remains for long time

S: Strong notes of roasted malts, dark chocolate and coffee. Licorice. quite boozy

T: Slightly sweet upfront. Strong notes of roasted malts, dark chocolate and vanilla. Notes of coffee, licorice and alcohol. Strong roast bitterness in the end

M: Heavy and creamy body. Molasses. Low carbonation. Dark chocolate and roasted malts aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. De Molen quality. Good Imperial Stout

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Photo of KFBR392
4.16/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Totally unique for a Russian Imperial Stout. Pours with a medium bodied and colored brown. No heavy motor oil texture that has become so common for RIS. Higher carbonation then average. Thin head. No lacing.

Smell: Super sweet. Sweet bourbon, light leafy greens, figs, pipe tobacco, malt, with some hops. Again very unique for RIS. I love what it brings to the table though.

Taste: The front is such a wonderful mix of caramel, molasses, bourbon, and malt. The body is medium thickness but has no lacking aspects. The aftertaste pleasantly sits, with all the major players being felt.

Mouthfeel: Smooth. Goes down dangerously smooth

Overall: This beer kicks ass. Unique and a beer to go out of your way for.

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Photo of acevenom
4.31/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a snifter glass. Pours black with a thick tan head that dissipates slowly. Some lacing is left behind on the side of the glass as the head retreats. The aroma is of figs, prunes, molasses, chocolate, and coffee. There's some malt roastiness, but it's not very strong in the aroma. I also get some alcohol in the smell. The dark roasted malts come through stronger in the taste than they do in the aroma. I get the alcohol, figs, prunes, chocolate, and mild coffee in the flavor. However, this is still good roasty imperial stout. The body is medium with moderate carbonation. There's some roastiness in the aftertaste. The beer is a bit thin in the body for the style, but it does drink pretty well. The alcohol brings a nice warming feel. This is an excellent beer.

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Photo of bobhits
3.02/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3

L. Reddish hue, very thin looking, an marginal head at best. This is NOT a Russian imperial stout's look it isn't even close.
S. Hints of coffee, bakers chocolate, and a good bit of molasses sugar aroma. There however isn't nearly enough roasted malt here. The overall balance is very sweet and sugary to the point that I question the style claims here as well.
T. Cease & Desist is much more of a strong dark Belgian ale with a poorly done spice flavor than a stout. Once you accept this bait and switch it is a rather nice little beer. Dark fruits give this beer's sugary flavor. Raisins, figs, and perhaps some partially fermented apple. There's a bit of coffee finish and a hint of hop profile.
M. Watery for a 10% beer, very. There is still a nice bit of alcohol bite in here as well.
O. Cease & Desist seems to me a lot like a Belgian quad with a lot of Belgian yeast with a hint of coffee in the finish. Very very drinkable beer given the high abv. It is a nice change of pace but hardly something i'll seek out again given the high price tag.

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Photo of matttttYCE
3.46/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

This one is labeled Cease&Desist. And I wonder how it compares to Old Rasputin now that I read the label again. Holy bottle hiss, batman, this one's no Flat Abbey, that's for sure. Anyways, I digress. Bottled on April 14 2011. Big head, like massive. *Looks at watch* Cola tan colored, liquid is dark cola as well. Well, good lacing and retention. *Looks at watch again* Too much if there ever was such a thing. I want to drink my beer without getting a foam mustache, when will it subside? Okay, phew, now we can procede. Aroma is a bit lighter than expected for an RIS. Cola hints, Dark fruits, chocolate, cocoa power, toasty malts, coffee, ashy-ness, burnt molasses and brown sugar mixture. Hints at soy sauce as well but not bad. Taste is nice. A bit soy saucey though. Otherwise good. Burnt brown sugar and molasses, light cola, cocoa powder, coffee bitterness, dark fruits, maybe currants? Idk my bff Jill. The mouthfeel is surprisingly good. Even with the seemingly insane carbonation level, the body is medium-full, the consistency is filmy viscous as an RIS should be, the carbonation in the mouth is only medium-high, and the finish is moderate though cola-y and soy saucey.

Overall, decent beer. Is it better than Old Rasputin? Well I haven't had them side by side but at this point I'd probably take Old Rasputin. Am I any less inclined to support North Coast with my "hard earned beer money" as the label here states because of their thinking that I was "to [no, this wasn't my typo but actually one on the bottle] dumb to tell the two products apart..."? In a word, no. Thank you De Molen for that good laugh. It's a little hard to take your cause seriously in light of that. The point here is that you should let your beer speak for yourself, instead of doing things like putting attack campaigns on your labels, and sadly, your beer is only really mumbling in the background of my brain.

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Photo of MattSweatshirt
3.87/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Impromptu hostel review. Found a nonic pint in the cupboard. Score!
Bottle dated 13/07/2011 and drank 11/09/2012.

Pours out like a cola. The same color and the head has has big fizzy bubbles. The body is fairly black but quite a bit of amber around the bottom edge. Was expecting something a little more black from a 10.4% stout named after Rasputin.

Big dark fruit component on the nose along with dark chocolate. There is also an underlying of ash, sweetness, and bread as well.

Dark fruit leads in on the taste. Dark chocolate and roasted coffee aren't too far behind. Gets a little ashy and dark fruity in the aftertaste.

The body isn't too big on this. Maybe all the carbonation makes it seem that way. It's easy to swirl up a nice head after it has subsided but the bubbles don't tax the palette.

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Photo of AgentMunky
4.03/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a Talisker glass. Bottle 706. Bottled 14 April 2011.

A: Huge head won't stop over foaming. The color is black. Opaque. Heavy lacing.

S: Chocolate malt. Light hops. Bitter.

T: Really really good. Musty, fruity, chocolatey, bitter. Complex and hard to describe. Spicy; floral yeast. Excellent finish.

M: Lightly flat. Dry.

O: Great beer. Great stout. Highly recommended. Will try again.

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Photo of rappmann
3.9/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

33 cl bottle dated 02/11/2011 labelled as Rasputin, 9.3 ABV

A - Dark dark brown almost black, one finger of off white head, sticks around for a while, thick lacing.

S - Sweet dark malty nose, bready, with dark fruits, like dates. Molasses, and straight dark sugary notes.

T - Malty as the nose would suggest, again, dark fruits minor but noticeable bitterness. Little bit of chocolate, but overall just a beautiful, sweet beer.

M - Little bit over carbonated, but not offensive. Very light mouthfeel for a beer this strong.

O - A nice RIS, a bit pricey, but hey, you only live once. If i found it for cheaper and not at a bar, I would buy it again.

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.58/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 1 Nov 2011.

A - Poured dark brown, settled black with a small layer of light brown head.

S - Roast, sweet molasses and brown sugar. Fairly sweet overall nose.

T - Roasted malts, molasses, brown sugar. A slight bitterness is present but this is fairly sweet overall.

M - Medium body. Light carbonation.

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Moord & Doodslag (Disputin) from Brouwerij De Molen
3.88 out of 5 based on 422 ratings.
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