Moord & Doodslag - Disputin | Brouwerij De Molen

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Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.70%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Formerly named "Rasputin," then labeled as "Disputin" due to a dispute with North Coast over the name. Also has been called "Cease & Desist".

User Reviews & Ratings
Reviews: 196 | Ratings: 453
Photo of jrenihan
3.61/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Bottled Feb 11, 2011. Mine is called Rasputin rather than Disputin.

Beer is black with no head whatsoever.

Nose contains molasses and anise. Seems a bit sweet. No hint of roasted malt.

Taste is fine, but not impressive. Anise, molasses, sweet treacle? Chocolate. A notable fruity flavour that is odd and a bit hard to place. Rather tropical.

Full bodied, almost no carbonation. Quite syrupy.

Overall, disappointing. Not sure if this was a bad bottle, but it is worlds away from the Hel & Verdoemenis.

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Photo of Slatetank
4.01/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

I picked this up at state line, shared with tenderbranson69 enjoyed chilled in a goblet and sampler glass.

The color is very dark brown with translucent appearance and coffee color with light tan head the compresses to a ring with spotty lace. Smell is very chocolatey in the malt aroma with some mild coffee and earthy vanilla scent with a light spice from hops. The feel is great with lots of smooth malt with a subtle bitterness level balanced by the sweetness of the malt with mild alcohol in the finish.

The taste is very good with a dark cocoa and creamy roasted malt flavor with some gentle chocolate and vanilla blend that adds to the coffee and slight dried fruit flavors. The mild yeast flavor adds to a slight stone fruit accent which blends well with the roasted and caramel malt body. Overall I really like this...extremely drinkable for the strength however I would not drink it alone unless I had nothing planned it is velvety and deceptive.

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Photo of pkalix
4.72/5  rDev +21%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

cease & desist from 13/09/12.... love the label wording... if it is true, I have to side with these guys. I mean, really North Coast? you ought to be ashamed of yourselves, if that is really all it was...
mine says 10.4% abv and is a beautiful dark mahogany brown. smell is of sweet ripe cherries, sherry, brandy. I could keep my nose inside this glass forever! I felt this was a 5 on smell....
i'm getting some interesting lacing on the sides of the glass. it's like a heavier, yeasty kind of sud, almost solid, but it washes apart when the liquid is sloshed up to it. very interesting!
taste is dark fruits, fig. booze-soaked raisin, as I've heard others say and now I totally understand that description... a little 'thinner' than most American stouts, but I prefer it that way. I don't much care for the thicker, syrup-y stouts, or the over-loaded coffee ones. it's too easy to go in that direction....
this is really nice. plain bottle, except for a little competitor bashing (if you can even consider them 'competition'); no fanfare, just a black n white bottle with a decent-tasting product. not the best in the world, but then what is? it's what fits in your hand and on your tongue right now and this one always seems to be above average regardless of the 'current conditions'. everything I have had from this line up has been above average and quite noble. very much inline with some of the better stouts I've tasted and yet with a much fairer price. for an import! that's why I keep buying this stuff....

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Photo of draheim
3.57/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Cease & Desist, 11.2oz (bottled 2/27/2013) into a snifter. Opens with barely a weak pfft, pours out with almost zero head. Pitch black, some light gets through around the edges. Looks kind of like a flat glass of Coke.

Aroma is chocolate, roasty malt, and dark fruits.

Taste is bitter malt, coffee, dark chocolate, and sugary dates and figs, molasses. Very sweet.

Mouthfeel is sticky and coating with a lingering aftertaste.

Overall, this is an okay imperial stout but there are certainly better ones in a crowded field.

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Photo of Ryan011235
2.32/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 3 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.25

Poured into a Darkness tulip on 7/1/12

I can't remember was with me when I opened it. Seth had to be there because I was using his glass. Chris might have been there, too.

Brewed on 11 January 2009. Bottled on 16 February 2009. Bottle number 134.

A) On the pour this is surprisingly light brown in color. That said, it does end up rather dark in the glass. The head rises to close to three fingers; this is all rocky, porous foam. However, almost all of it dissipates leaving a soapy layer of retention and some sporadic trails of lace.

S) The aroma is disarmingly thin and timid. Oxidation permeates the entire aroma. Lots of dark fruits, too. Raisins and prunes. Sweet, but not overly sugary.

T) The flavor is even more fruity and heavy on raisins (twangy raisins no less). Too much on the side of tangy, sugary fruits. Roast and burnt notes are basically nonexistent.

M) Medium body. The feel is very smooth and moderately slick. Carbonation is tilted toward the lower side. Some sugary residuals.

D) Though this is not entirely bad or unenjoyable, it is simply not impressive. I wouldn't be inclined to get it again.

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Photo of metter98
3.79/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: The beer is close to being black in color - traces of red are visible near the sides of the glass when held up to a bright light. It poured with just a few large bubbles on the surface that faded away, leaving in thin collar of off white bubbles around the edge of the glass.
S: Aromas of dark malts as well as Belgian and earthy yeast are present in the nose.
T: The taste mostly follows the smell and has a light amount of bitterness along with lingering notes of roasted malts and unsweetened cocoa towards the finish.
M: It feels slightly more than medium-bodied on the palate and has a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer isn't nearly as full-bodied compared to some other Russian Imperial Stouts but is quite drinkable because it masks all of the alcohol.

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Photo of REVZEB
3.94/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had as cease and desist. Weird combo of milk stout like cloying sweetness in the body, yet bitterness in the foretaste like a RIS. The roasted malt stars with chocolate and licorice co-starring, and dark fruit, booze, and brown sugar supporting. Overall an interesting stout worth your time

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Photo of StraightNoChaser
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

2009 vintage. Bday gift from my generous pal.
Appearance: very dark brown. Cola highlight. For an 11%er, a fair size tan head and lacing. Handsome brew.
Smell: very interesting. Certainly not your run o the mill stout nose. Dark fruit is the most prominent characteristic. Rich, sweet cherry and malt.
Taste: very much like the nose but with a nicely dry finish.
Overall: very nice. Surprised this is not rated higher on Ba. Maybe the 4 years has turned this into a different, better beer? Outstanding.

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Photo of eduardolinhalis
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

330ml bottle served in a snifter glass.

Bottle says Rasputin. ABV 10.4%. Apparently, a variation of Disputin.
Bottle at 25/02/2013.

A: Pours a deep black color forming a minimal beige head. Minimal retention and only few small spotty lacings left in the glass. A thin bubbled head remains for long time

S: Strong notes of roasted malts, dark chocolate and coffee. Licorice. quite boozy

T: Slightly sweet upfront. Strong notes of roasted malts, dark chocolate and vanilla. Notes of coffee, licorice and alcohol. Strong roast bitterness in the end

M: Heavy and creamy body. Molasses. Low carbonation. Dark chocolate and roasted malts aftertaste

O: Good drinkability. De Molen quality. Good Imperial Stout

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Photo of KFBR392
4.16/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Totally unique for a Russian Imperial Stout. Pours with a medium bodied and colored brown. No heavy motor oil texture that has become so common for RIS. Higher carbonation then average. Thin head. No lacing.

Smell: Super sweet. Sweet bourbon, light leafy greens, figs, pipe tobacco, malt, with some hops. Again very unique for RIS. I love what it brings to the table though.

Taste: The front is such a wonderful mix of caramel, molasses, bourbon, and malt. The body is medium thickness but has no lacking aspects. The aftertaste pleasantly sits, with all the major players being felt.

Mouthfeel: Smooth. Goes down dangerously smooth

Overall: This beer kicks ass. Unique and a beer to go out of your way for.

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Photo of acevenom
4.31/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured into a snifter glass. Pours black with a thick tan head that dissipates slowly. Some lacing is left behind on the side of the glass as the head retreats. The aroma is of figs, prunes, molasses, chocolate, and coffee. There's some malt roastiness, but it's not very strong in the aroma. I also get some alcohol in the smell. The dark roasted malts come through stronger in the taste than they do in the aroma. I get the alcohol, figs, prunes, chocolate, and mild coffee in the flavor. However, this is still good roasty imperial stout. The body is medium with moderate carbonation. There's some roastiness in the aftertaste. The beer is a bit thin in the body for the style, but it does drink pretty well. The alcohol brings a nice warming feel. This is an excellent beer.

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Photo of bobhits
3.02/5  rDev -22.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3

L. Reddish hue, very thin looking, an marginal head at best. This is NOT a Russian imperial stout's look it isn't even close.
S. Hints of coffee, bakers chocolate, and a good bit of molasses sugar aroma. There however isn't nearly enough roasted malt here. The overall balance is very sweet and sugary to the point that I question the style claims here as well.
T. Cease & Desist is much more of a strong dark Belgian ale with a poorly done spice flavor than a stout. Once you accept this bait and switch it is a rather nice little beer. Dark fruits give this beer's sugary flavor. Raisins, figs, and perhaps some partially fermented apple. There's a bit of coffee finish and a hint of hop profile.
M. Watery for a 10% beer, very. There is still a nice bit of alcohol bite in here as well.
O. Cease & Desist seems to me a lot like a Belgian quad with a lot of Belgian yeast with a hint of coffee in the finish. Very very drinkable beer given the high abv. It is a nice change of pace but hardly something i'll seek out again given the high price tag.

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Photo of matttttYCE
3.46/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

This one is labeled Cease&Desist. And I wonder how it compares to Old Rasputin now that I read the label again. Holy bottle hiss, batman, this one's no Flat Abbey, that's for sure. Anyways, I digress. Bottled on April 14 2011. Big head, like massive. *Looks at watch* Cola tan colored, liquid is dark cola as well. Well, good lacing and retention. *Looks at watch again* Too much if there ever was such a thing. I want to drink my beer without getting a foam mustache, when will it subside? Okay, phew, now we can procede. Aroma is a bit lighter than expected for an RIS. Cola hints, Dark fruits, chocolate, cocoa power, toasty malts, coffee, ashy-ness, burnt molasses and brown sugar mixture. Hints at soy sauce as well but not bad. Taste is nice. A bit soy saucey though. Otherwise good. Burnt brown sugar and molasses, light cola, cocoa powder, coffee bitterness, dark fruits, maybe currants? Idk my bff Jill. The mouthfeel is surprisingly good. Even with the seemingly insane carbonation level, the body is medium-full, the consistency is filmy viscous as an RIS should be, the carbonation in the mouth is only medium-high, and the finish is moderate though cola-y and soy saucey.

Overall, decent beer. Is it better than Old Rasputin? Well I haven't had them side by side but at this point I'd probably take Old Rasputin. Am I any less inclined to support North Coast with my "hard earned beer money" as the label here states because of their thinking that I was "to [no, this wasn't my typo but actually one on the bottle] dumb to tell the two products apart..."? In a word, no. Thank you De Molen for that good laugh. It's a little hard to take your cause seriously in light of that. The point here is that you should let your beer speak for yourself, instead of doing things like putting attack campaigns on your labels, and sadly, your beer is only really mumbling in the background of my brain.

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Photo of MattSweatshirt
3.87/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Impromptu hostel review. Found a nonic pint in the cupboard. Score!
Bottle dated 13/07/2011 and drank 11/09/2012.

Pours out like a cola. The same color and the head has has big fizzy bubbles. The body is fairly black but quite a bit of amber around the bottom edge. Was expecting something a little more black from a 10.4% stout named after Rasputin.

Big dark fruit component on the nose along with dark chocolate. There is also an underlying of ash, sweetness, and bread as well.

Dark fruit leads in on the taste. Dark chocolate and roasted coffee aren't too far behind. Gets a little ashy and dark fruity in the aftertaste.

The body isn't too big on this. Maybe all the carbonation makes it seem that way. It's easy to swirl up a nice head after it has subsided but the bubbles don't tax the palette.

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Photo of AgentMunky
4.03/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a Talisker glass. Bottle 706. Bottled 14 April 2011.

A: Huge head won't stop over foaming. The color is black. Opaque. Heavy lacing.

S: Chocolate malt. Light hops. Bitter.

T: Really really good. Musty, fruity, chocolatey, bitter. Complex and hard to describe. Spicy; floral yeast. Excellent finish.

M: Lightly flat. Dry.

O: Great beer. Great stout. Highly recommended. Will try again.

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Photo of rappmann
3.9/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

33 cl bottle dated 02/11/2011 labelled as Rasputin, 9.3 ABV

A - Dark dark brown almost black, one finger of off white head, sticks around for a while, thick lacing.

S - Sweet dark malty nose, bready, with dark fruits, like dates. Molasses, and straight dark sugary notes.

T - Malty as the nose would suggest, again, dark fruits minor but noticeable bitterness. Little bit of chocolate, but overall just a beautiful, sweet beer.

M - Little bit over carbonated, but not offensive. Very light mouthfeel for a beer this strong.

O - A nice RIS, a bit pricey, but hey, you only live once. If i found it for cheaper and not at a bar, I would buy it again.

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Photo of TheSevenDuffs
3.58/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled on 1 Nov 2011.

A - Poured dark brown, settled black with a small layer of light brown head.

S - Roast, sweet molasses and brown sugar. Fairly sweet overall nose.

T - Roasted malts, molasses, brown sugar. A slight bitterness is present but this is fairly sweet overall.

M - Medium body. Light carbonation.

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Photo of Dope
3.83/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Label reads "Cease and Desist", 11.2 ounce bottle. 10.5% ABV. Bottled in March 2011

A: Immediate gusher. Pours pitch black with an enormously frothy light brown head. Lost a good portion of the bottle in the process. Fades impossibly slow, getting bored waiting for it. Leaves just tufts of fluffy lacing behind.

S: Ashy char. Prominent dark fruit. Mild chocolate.

T: Up front, lots of dark fruit like cherry and dates. Turns chocolatey and then bitter ash in the middle, into the finish. Finishes bitter with a little coffee and more ash. Has a creamy, almost lactose-like quality sometimes.

M: Fairly heavy, carbonation is a bit too high (not sure if intentional). Creamy.

O: Not a bad RIS. I tried not to knock it down too bad for being a gusher and too high carbonation. Might be a mistake bottle. But it's still quite tasty with lots of chocolate and that typical de molen ash (but not overpowering at the same time). Nice creaminess too.

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Photo of rapidsequence
3.89/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750 ml bottle, bottled Apr 2010, so two years old. Mine is a "Rasputin" brought back in my suitcase from Belgium. A gift from Beerpirates--thanks Wim!

Appearance: Its a very dark brown, almost black. Very large, finely bubbled head with great retention-- almost too much, as if its overcarbonated. Spots of lacing.

Smell: Roasted coffee, cocoa powder, Belgian yeast, licorice, leather, and a little oxidation.

Taste: Big complexity of interesting flavors that mostly mesh well. Bitter old coffee, bittersweet chocolate, leather, a hint of charcoal, some spiciness, rum soaked raisins in the finish. Theres's some alcohol heat, especially near the end that dries it out a bit too much. Good, different.

Mouthfeel: Its a little overcarbonated and thin feeling as above. Maybe its the age.

Overall: Its got a couple of minor issues, but overall a very tasty RIS with Belgian influence.

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Photo of zaphodchak
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not a whole lotta wax on here. It's a 2008.

Thin offwhite head, cloudy rich brown. Faint lace. Little spiral on the surface.

Smells like age, and a bit of cherry and rich malt.

Taste is good, powerfully malty with a bit of licorice, a trace of cherry. Some age is evident, but not 'vintage'-ey. Kinda Belgian yeast profile. This could be a roasty, slightly dry quad. Relatively balanced by some bittering hops that remain present despite 4 years cellaring.

Nice and smooth feel.

Very nice beer, but by no means meritorious of the $25 I paid for it.

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Photo of pixieskid
3.68/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From Notes, sometime last year...have had it a couple times since...

Med full body, frothy and spritzy mouthfeel, good carbonation.

Molasses, brown sugar, rich malts, strong sweentess upfront. Dark fruits (cherry and blackberry) with hints of licorice. Finishes with a slight dark chocolate bitterness and residual brown sugar note.

A tad too sweet and a bit over carbonated...

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Photo of UCLABrewN84
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle pour at the bottle share hosted by Adam Fine Wine & Liquor held at Sophie’s Place in Redondo Beach, CA.

2011 vintage.

Pours a murky dark brown with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a thin cap on top of the beer. Foamy streaks of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, coffee, cocoa, and some slight dark fruit aromas. Taste is much the same with a medium amount of roasty bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a good beer that is tasty and easy to drink.

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Photo of homebrew311
4.25/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served on tap at Bangers and Lace. Pitch black and opaque appearance. Cocoa colored head that leaves nice lacing. Nose has deep molasses, roasted malt, bitter chocolate, and deep earthy hop character. Taste is rich with Malta up front and followed by firm bitterness. Nice hearty stout, low carbonation, creamy body. Well balanced and loaded with good imperial stout flavors.

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Photo of BirdsandHops
3.63/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

2008 bottle

A: pours a dark brown with no carbonation.

S: roasted malts with sweet chocolate, molasses, and dark fruits.

T: roasted malts with semi-sweet chocolate, coffee, and dark fruit. There is a slight char flavor on the finish.

M: medium-thick body with low carbonation, this beer is a bit thin and watery.

O: a good stout, though the lack of carbonation and thin body hold it back.

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Photo of Rizalini
4.07/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12oz bottle,bottles on April 14, 2011. Poured into my Stone tulip...

A - Warning, this one foams over when you pop open the bottle. The light brown head continues to grow even when poured into my tulip. The head grew to a huge 5 finger thick foamy head. Slowly starts to fall, but still very thick. The beer is dark brown, but not black.

S - The first smell is of chocolate and tobacco. On second smell, I get notes of dark fruit, rum raisin, leather, and some slight fruity esters.

T/M - There is a slight astringent taste, also the flavors are a little lighter on the tongue than in the nose. Still, there are bittersweet dark chocolate notes, tobacco and leather. Mouthfeel is medium, a little lighter than a normal stout. The flavor sticks to your tongue. Love the coffe afteraste.

O - This is a pretty damn tasty stout. After I aged it for about a year, the alcohol is almost undetectable. Very drinkable, and would definately buy again if I came across it. Cheers

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Moord & Doodslag - Disputin from Brouwerij De Molen
Beer rating: 3.9 out of 5 with 453 ratings