Bommen & Granaten | Brouwerij De Molen

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Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: English Barleywine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 15.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
750ml: 53.9 IBU
330ml: 57 IBU

Added by hoppymeal on 11-12-2008

BEER STATS
Reviews:
95
Ratings:
205
Avg:
3.85
pDev:
14.03%
 
 
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Reviews: 95 | Ratings: 205
Photo of DerBayer
3.7/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Good English Barley wine pouring exactly the reight colour but no head so it s only a 3.5 for that.

The smell is of raisins and caramel and not much else.

The taste is of raisins and caramel also with little hops - a very sweet beer as you woulkd expect of a barley wine.

Mouthfeel is smnooth but maybe a bit cloying.

In all not as good as others i ve had but may have it again.

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Photo of bobhits
3.84/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

Reddish orange color, murky to look through. No head

smell. malty nose. Fruity, grape fruit, citrus, slightly bready malt, thin watery at the start, finishes with a fairly mild be noticeable alcohol

Reminds me of many english barely wines though a bit sweeter than anything I've had. Nearly a sparking wine or some kind of grape drink. The most "similar" to wine beer I've had to date. Ends with a slight and very mild hop kiss that leads into that alcohol finish that I expected. Has sugary candy flavor as well after the alcohol. Truly a unique flavor especially without the addition of Belgium yeast.

Extremely easy to drink too much of. The alcohol doesn't kick nearly enough for such a young barely wine.

Not what I want out of a beer, but certainly an enjoyable example of the style. Truly something that people will enjoy and certainly worthy of having sampled. At 12 bucks a bottle, over a dollar and oz, won't be something I do again, and frankly I'm ok with that.

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Photo of jmhart
2.58/5  rDev -33%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Shared this with Frasier433 during our weekly tasting session. He picked it up at Hop City.

A- Murky mahogany. Zero carbonation. No lacing. I served this to 3 people, 2 pours each. On the very last pour (so pour number 6) I really made it forceful and go just a hint of co2. I'm not looking for a lot, but something. The stillness of this beer really made it seem flat, dull, and unappetizing. Looks like a 40 year port, that oxidized reddish-brown color.

S- The smell was pretty incredible. Obvious nuts and malts. There was a flavor I was trying to define, and I said "Apricots...no, plums...no, apricots AND plums" and then Frasier said "Nah dude, figs". Yes, figs...figs all the way. It smells like a fine aged port. Smells like a 40 year old port.

T- Really sweet, overly sweet, toffee and grape juice, but bitter on the end. A drying flavorless bitter. Actually pretty unpleasant.

M- Medium-full bodied, thick and rolling. Moist.

D- The appearance was acceptable, the smell was incredible, but the taste was just really hard. We had three people drinking a 33 cL bottle, and it was hard for us to finish. Frasier picked up 2 bottles. I said, age the second one for 10 years and let's come back to it, see if the sugars mellow out.

Overall, the smell was really incredible, but the taste was just down right unpalatable.

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Photo of Mavajo
3.8/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Poured into a snifter. Dark ruby color with a very thin white-ish head that fades almost instantly. No lacing. All in all, not an impressive appearance - but I'll give it a pass, considering the huge ABV.

Nose is a malty treat - caramel, burnt brown sugar, etc. Taste follows suit perfectly, with a generous sweetness - loads of caramel, brown sugar and lots of malt. Body is medium to heavy and very stick. My major criticism of this brew is the carbonation - there's virtually no carbonation in this thing, and it leaves the beer a bit flat (no pun intended). Don't get me wrong - I'm not asking for a tingler here, but this thing could use some more carbonation to give it a bit of life. The alcohol burn is certainly there, but it's not offensive - it adds some great character.

All in all, an interesting brew. It's a phenomenal sipper, but not a personal favorite of mine. Something needs to be done about that mouthfeel before I give this one another look - just too flat.

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Photo of cpetrone84
3.65/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A-pours a hazy amber color with notes of a thin brown head.

S-the nose is a little ashy, notes of peat, caramel, toffee, burnt brown sugar, light doughy biscuit in there with a fair amount of malty sweetness in the back.

T-good malt base, lightly toasted biscuit, lots of caramel and burnt brown sugar, dark fruits and a fair amount of sweetness in the back.

M-smooth and creamy, full bodied, syrupy feel to it, moderate to low carbonation but enough to balance the body.

D-big malt bomb, a little sweet but not cloying, the huge flavors and the big body go well together. more carbonation would probably have helped balance and reduce some of the big sugar flavors in this.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.29/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A succulent and delicadent Barleywine that has all the halmarks of perfection, except for the absolutely still body, leaving the beer somewhat lifeless.

Aside from the stillness of the beer, a medium cloudy appearance of rusty coppers and orange colors avoids head formation, retention, and lacing, but the brandy-like legging gives creadence to the alcohols and sugars hidden within.

Mouthwatering brown sugars, molassas, and deep toffee ignites the fire in this sweet-tooth. Rounded by rummy, figy, and raisony esters and alcohols, the aromas are warming and inviting.

Flavors pick up on all the syrupy goodness with elements of rum-soaked fruitcake, candied stone fruits, sweetbreads, and sherry only begin the onslaught of flavors that take on the tastebuds.

Sweetness early fades into a delicate oiliness that fades into herbal/fruity and alcoholic dryness. The beer never dries out, but gives the impression of lightening and lifting off the palate despite the omittion of carbonation.

This barleywine is as classic flavored as they come; similar to the well-aged J.W. Lees and Tom Hardy's ales.

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Photo of glid02
3.78/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle.

Pours a hazy chestnut brown color with a wispy light tan head. The head quickly dissipates leaving no lacing but decent legs.

Smells of sweet and syrupy caramel malts with good amounts of dark toffee. Also present are large amounts of ripe plums and figs and milder amounts of brandy aromas.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Sticky caramel malt flavors with large amounts of toffee and butterscotch flavors kick things off. Shortly thereafter moderate amounts of brandy-soaked plum and raisin flavors work their way into things, carrying through to a decidedly sweet ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a smooth thickness with very soft carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall this was a big still barleywine - certainly on the sweet side but after a certain ABV it's almost impossible to make them otherwise. I'd enjoy seeing beers over 12% available in the Rogue nip bottles as 12 oz. is almost always too much. Anyways, it's a tasty beer that's worth a shot.

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Photo of gford217
4.04/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

33cl bottle.

Pours a murky caramel brown with a small collection of bubbles that splits quickly and leaves nothing behind.

The aroma is seriously sweet and very fruity - port-like. Red apples, caramel, vanilla, maybe some oranges. Less alcohol in the nose than I expected.

Taste has more burn than the aroma suggests. Very sweet - caramel apples and alcohol. Definitely lots of sweet port, especially in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium bodied and very, very slick with low carbonation.

This is a sipper - very sweet, like a dessert wine. Not the best body in a barleywine but pretty drinkable, especially for the ABV.

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Photo of steve8robin
4.13/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Random buy. 2010 12oz bottle # 676...

A: Deep ruby red and burgundy blended with hints of brown. No head. A small lace atop the brew. Good...

S: Super sweet sugary malts blended with hints of apple and bready yeast. Slight grape and liquor scent on the backend. Decent.

T: Wow! This tastes like grape juice upfront. This is 15% ABV? Where? I taste hints of sweet malt and licorice. Very sweet, and the alcohol is hidden exceptionally well! Sort of like a liquid twizler. Very good!

M: Does not leave an entire lot on the palate. Decent.

D: Goes down super easy despite the high ABV. The alcohol is very well hidden. Way to go Brouwerij.

All in all, this was a good brew. Had some interesting notes to it. The taste was a lot better than the scent gave of and the drinkability was a lot better than you would have thought for 15% ABV. Good brew!

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Photo of corby112
3.95/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark aramel ruby red chestnut brown color light orange hues very thin off white head

Sweet alcohol aroma with some leathery caramel malt toffee raisin and other dark fruit

Chewy fuller body with sweetness from malt and alcohol but not much heat. Abv well masked. Very drinkable toffee caramel raisin dark frut burn toward the end sweet

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Photo of beachbum1975
3.38/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks to Todeon (on RB) for sending me this one as an extra...

Corked and caged, bottled #295 of 558. Brewed Sept 16, 2008 and bottled on October 16th, 2008.

Pours a semi-cloudy, true brown. I'd like to describe more about the color, but all I get is brown in my head. Absolutely ZERO head though...

Smells of insanely sweet, concentrated and complex malts... Alcohol, caramel, sweet fruits (Strawberry?) and decadent sweetness abounds.

Flat, moderately heavy bodied with light carbonation on the mouth. Much like the nose with added heat from the alcohol.

This is a HUGE beer, but no my cup of tea. I don't know how someone could drink and entire bottle of this. It's thick, chewy and sweet leading to much drinkability factor being low.

Wow...

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Photo of Sammy
3.78/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Traded from the Netherlands. Pours a rich dark brown colour with a little head, noneby the end of the bottle. Fairly full mouthfeel, supplemented by lots of caramel. This is sweet and apricot fruity. Very sweet, this is one year old of its stated 25 year life, and should be even more interesting after five years. Drinkable and super high alcohol is hidden.

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Photo of BigMcLargeHuge
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750mL courtesy of RB's own madmitch76. The pour is orange copper with thin off white head. The aroma is really pungent and fruity with apricots and pears to go along with spicy to earthy hops and some mild heat at the end of the draw. The taste is sweet syrupy with malts, pears, skinless ripe red apple wedges and apricot fruitiness. It smoothly moves into notes of spicy and earthy hops. The booze kicks in and helps dry it out at the end to help balance out the load of sweetness going on here.

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Photo of rvdoorn
3.82/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I bought this beer fresh from the brewery. Opened it together with PapaEugene. Poured into an original de Molen sniffer. The beer pours an amber-orange color with some yeast pellets in suspension. No head at all.

Smell: Weak for the style. Grain, barley, sweet honey, orange zest and some alcohol

Taste: The taste is much stronger than the smell. A real explosion of sweetness. Tastes like very sweet honey, caramel, maple syrup, brown sugar and some alcohol. Some very well hidden bitterness is also there, but this doesn't balance the beer.

Mouthfeel: Thick bodied, I liked that. Like some other de Molen beers, no carbonation at all. The alcohol is very well hidden for a 15.2% ABV beer.

Overall: Not what I expected. The beer is really too sweet for my pellet. It needs a bit more bitterness to balance the taste. The alcohol however, is extremely well hidden, I wish alcohol was this well hidden in my favorite barley wine (the Sam Smith strong golden). The absence of any carbonation and lack of bitterness makes this beer more like a very sweet liquor. Nice for after dinner, but not if one wants a beer.

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Photo of PapaEugene
3.42/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A big bottle which was a joint purchase of me and rvdoorn. I was really looking forward to this Dutch brew since I heard many good things about it.

A: Great hazy orange color with just 3 tiny bubbles on the surface.... meaning no head whatsoever.

S: A huge grainy smell in the foreground, honey, syrup, orange peel and alcohols.

T: Mega sweet and I guess that's why you don't notice the 15% ABV. Grains, honey, syrup and dark fruits. There is also some hidden note of paper.

M: This beer is dead for carbonation, nothing, nada, niente etc etc... it has a medium body and a very thick, glycerol like, mouthfeel.

D: If there wouldn't be the grains, this could be mistaken for an Italian desert wine like malvasia. With some carbonation and some aging to reduce the sugar content this might have been a great barley wine. I'm waiting until I hear about a batch with carbonation then I will surely try and review it again.

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Photo of ricke
4.44/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2009 vintage. Brewing date: 2009-02-25.

A: Reddish amber, quite pale actually. No head, just a few random airy bubbles that quickly disappear. Looks like I'll be having another flat one from De Molen...

S: A very powerful and well defined smell. Lots of vinous fruits (prunes, plums, raisins) and caramel malts. The alcohol adds a nice and subtle layer. Faint notes of autumn leaves and spices.

T: The taste is really good. It's very sweet with caramel malts to the fore. Notes of toffee. Vinous fruits are all around, mostly in the form of plums and figs. Aromas of oranges and apples. Lots of rum soaked raisins. Strangely enough, the sweetness doesn't get too much, instead the beer comes out as quite balanced. The finish is gently bitter and sweet with vanilla, wood and a mild leafy hop note, and a warming, well integrated alcohol flavor.

M: Full bodied with a fat and chewy mouthfeel. No carbonation, absolutely flat.

D: A really good beer. Very taste and characterful. It's definitely a sipper, but it's impressive that a beer as sweet as this one is so balanced. The vinous and liqueur-like qualities in this one is superb. But it would have been so nice if there was some carbonation.

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Photo of philipquarles
3.5/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle from the May '08 brewing. The cork comes loose silently, and pouring it proves there is indeed very little carbonation, if any. The beer is surprisingly clear, with a bright copper body and some traces of a would-be foam collar. Looks like a liqueur, and the similarities don't stop there. Smells incredibly sweet, with brown sugar and fruit notes. Lots of orange character. Very boozy; taking a big whiff, it burns the nostrils. Caramel, brown sugar, and honey in the taste, again with a good deal of fruit. There is a surprising amount of bitterness there, though it's easily overpowered by the sweet finish. No real alcohol bite, just a very warming finish. Thick feel that is quite syrupy. Normally not the kind of beer that I really go for, but I think the lack of carbonation is really what lets it work. Rather than thinking about this as a beer, it comes off as being much more akin to a typical dessert liqueur. Definitely a sipper, and not something I want to have more than a 6oz serving of, but then again, one can just recork the bottle and not have to worry about losing carbonation. Really interesting for what it is.

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Photo of ggaughan
3.97/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled on tap at the Pre-ZBF festival at Alivnne. The beer poured a cloudy orange body with an off white head that ran away rather quickly. The nose had yeast notes, some citrus character and a bit of alcohol as well. The taste was pretty intense with some alcohol notes, fruit character, orange and a nice hop character and spice as well. Overall a full bodied beer that improved as it warms and the nose and body open up.

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Photo of johnnybravo
4.42/5  rDev +14.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

I had 7 bottles of the stuff. 6 of them from a batch in March and 1 from June. The brewer already mentioned that he was more satisfied with the second batch and oh my god! what a great evening filling beer this is. The first batch was great, but it looked horrible and imo it was also too much on the sweet side. The second batch however is a real improvement on those faults. The beer is still very sweet but in a good way because of the strong bitterness underneath and the filling thickness. It's a dessertbeer for sure. After a good heavy meal you should open up a bottle and when done finish it off with a glass of Lagavulin to make the evening perfect! I'm glad I have 5 bottles left. Let's see how they develop over the next 5 years or so.

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Photo of hoppymeal
4.28/5  rDev +11.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle 175 of 477 from 6/17/08 bottling. Neat presentation, comes in a wood crate marked 'danger'. After pulling out a prybar/nail puller, I'm ready to begin. Beer pours a very hazy medium copper, plenty of evidence of bottle conditioning. No head to speak of, a few traces of whitish bubbles cling around the edge of the glass, but it appears fairly still. Aroma is a very nice blend of orange and sweet honey, much like a dessert or after dinner drink, maybe a liqueur. Also some notes of strawberry, sweet sugary caramel, coconut, a bit of bready yeastiness and a burning at the nostrils indicating a good sized alcohol presence. Taste follows the aroma with oranges and honey dominating, a toasty yeastiness rides over the tongue behind these flavors. Sweet sugary caramel blends with a bite of alcohol in the finish. Mouthfeel is on the thick side due to the nearly non-existant carbonation, slightly syrupy, but not too heavy, at least in moderate quantities. Bite of alcohol towards the finish leads into a very warming finish, perfect for a cold night. A nice treat from De Molen, I felt the lack of carbonation was both pleasing in that it allowed some strong sweet liqueur like flavors to come thru, but also allows the sugariness to come thru, possibly limiting how much one can enjoy in a sitting. A delicious sipper imo, the low/no carbonation and sweetness make for a fine night cap, glad to have one to lay down for a few years and see what develops.

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