Vuur & Vlam
Brouwerij De Molen

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Style:
American IPA
Ranked #2,615
ABV:
6.2%
Score:
87
Ranked #14,609
Avg:
3.9 | pDev: 12.31%
Reviews:
77
Ratings:
220
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Reviews by Bpayne88:
Photo of Bpayne88
4.18/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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Photo of akorsak
3.95/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A horizontal tasting of the same recipe as interpreted by three different brewers. Take 1: De Molen. At the Farmers' Cabinet. Janlud there too.

A: The IPA is bright, a coppery orange color. A moderate-sized band of head comes along, white a snow.

S: The nose is grassy, possibly the hoppiest of the three. Citrus follows the grass, as does balancing caramel.

T: Pungently hoppy, the ale brings plenty of citrus with resiny pine adding an oily follow-up. Caramel malts, bready, are an adequate counterbalance to the hops. Semi-tropical, the IPA finishes with a grassy bluster. Yeast lends a sweeter presence that also aids in balancing the bitterness.

M: The hoppiest of the three, De Molen doesn't go easy on the bite. That being said, it's not a tastebud-scorcher. A strong take on an American IPA.

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Photo of John_M
3.63/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours an amber orange color with good head retention and lacing. The is fairly attractive, showing orange citrus and light sweet malt. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely in this beer. Although there some sweet orange, it's countered fairly well by the hoppy bitterness in the finish. While not as hoppy/bitter as I typically like to see in my IPA's, it's not bad. Mouthfeel is meidum bodied, with a somewhat thin, lightly bitter finish. Drinkability is pretty good in this IPA. The alcohol is nicely integrated into the flavor profile, and there's nothing heavy or tiring.

Shrug. While nothing extraordinairy, I thought this was a fairly pleasant effort from the folks at De Molen.

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Photo of koolk
4.15/5  rDev +6.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Slightly hazy orange with a thick white head. Good rentention and carbonation.

Very hoppy nose, very beautiful. Complex frutis, pine and some yeast notes as well. Very floral to boot. This has it all. Grapefruits dominating towards the end.

Those fruit flavours carry over onto the palate - floral and fruity with some citrus peel and spicy tang on the finish. Nice dry malt flavours in there too.

Thick, long and well balanced sweetness/bitterness.

Damn good AIPA from Europe. A bit pricey, but worth a crack. Bottle 113/729. Was 13 months old and drinking well. Would love to see a fresh bottle.

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Photo of Sammy
3.38/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled in late 2009, good through fall 2014.
Bottle from Fred. Darkish golden with enormous white fluffly head, well carbonated. Very mild hop aroma. Not getting that much hop bitterness in most sips, I am getting more notes of slight sourness.Thnk it was a long boat trip.

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Photo of bark
2.84/5  rDev -27.2%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The colour is amber-brass, the liquid is clear. The two finger head is white and airy; it sinks slowly leaving some lacing on the glass.

The smell is surprisingly smooth. Lots of juicy hops and some bitterness. Bitter-sweet notes of lemon/lime and grapefruits. Orange peels and hints of rubber bands and green plants. Hints of alcohol and butterscotch. No harsh notes.

The taste is bitter with distinct green hoppy flavours. It is dry and all hop-centric, not much malt here. Some pine needles, grapefruits and tangerines. Thin body. The aftertaste is “green” and dry, almost harsh. Some butterscotch and harsh green plants in the finish.

The carbonation is medium strong, the bubbles are mid-sized and long lasting. The liquid is medium to thin.

Good bitterness and citric fruits, but the beer is way too thin and plain.

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Photo of brentk56
4.2/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Arrives with an amber colored liquid; the head measures a bit more than a finger and leaves some decent lacing behind

Smell: Toffee malt with an herbacious citrus character

Taste: Light toffee, up front, followed by the herbal citrus flavors that add kumquat to the usual range; after the swallow, the herbaciously bitter flavors linger, though there is some residual sweetness in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: More of a Belgian IPA than an American IPA, due to the yeast profile; decent, but I have preferred others in this style

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Photo of drpimento
4.09/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Appearance is a giant, creamy, fluffy, cream-colored head, lots of lace, and a hazy amber color. Aroma is caramel, toffee, yeast, hops, spice. Flavor’s like nose; dry up front, bit sweet in finish. Mild carbonation. Also some off flavors in the end.

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Photo of oakbluff
3/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2 ounce bottle from glouglouburp. Pours a muddy/hazy wheat tangerine with a thick and creamy head and soapy lacing. Nose- iced tea and over ripe tropical fruit. Taste- zippy hop bite with a dish soap overtone, and sweet caramel malts and then astringent bitterness. Seems more like a strong pale ale then ipa with the malt bill and level of hopping, although not all that drinkable compared to a good APA. Solid level of carbonation and medium mouthfeel.

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Photo of SCW
3.91/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of Magery
3.51/5  rDev -10%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of beerdrifter
4.12/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up at the beer store at the De Molen Brewery. Hazy amber-copper pour with huge three finger head, with great retention and lacing. Really complex and unique floral, perfumey, citrus, nose with hints of ginger, peaches, pineapple, apples, and pine with a touch of soap. As it warms, a solid caramel maltiness emerges. The taste is just as complex and just as bold. Great fresh hoppiness with a nice solid caramel backbone. Loads of bitter pine and grapefruit nicely complemented by the sweet malt. Also getting ginger and a touch of cinnamon along with a little soapiness. The mouthfeel is thick and chewy but creamy and smooth as well with a great tangy finish. Vuur & Vlam literally translates to Fire & Flame, which aptly describes this great offering from De Molen.

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Photo of BEERchitect
2.88/5  rDev -26.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Where the old-school though about the "European" flavor was about skunk aromas and subsequent taste, it seems that the newfound relevence in American-style IPAs are developing an overly catty or marijuiana-driven taste overseas. Along with one single glaring problem, this beer captures this notion well.

Despite its dispicable-sounding name, Vuur & Vlaam pours with a very charming appearance. Peach and cammel colors carry an inherent hop-infussed haze that captures the light and dispurses in with an artistic glow. Capped with a dense white skirt across the glass, the beer layers and laces much like English cask ales.

Aromas start with the endearing citrus and topical character that extends over all of IPAs today. Grapefruit, oranges, pineapple, apricot, and lemons are all represented well and are backed with the supple support of light caramel and bread. But it's an accompanying peppery spice that entices the nose at first but then grows into plastic, then rubber, and band-aid aromas that prove to be too distracting to fully appreciate the more IPA-like aromas.

Fruit forward to start the taste, the malts allow the hops to represent fruits with a more candied taste. As the malty sweetness begins to fade, the beer's hop dominance begins. Flavors of ruby red grapefruit, tangerine, apricot, mango, pineapple, and lemons rise to command the taste. But its toward the end of mid palate where the beer's peppery taste interrupts and forces a highly plastic note to dominate thereafter. Spice trumps bitterness and creates a mess to close the session.

But the beer's body is spot-on IPA (having to look past the distracting taste). Dry malt sweetness carries an inherent thin creaminess that's aided by zesty carbonation. But even that is short lived as the beer turns bone-dry, alcoholically warm, and peppery to finish.

Although there's only one real problem with the beer, that yeasty phenol character really disrupts the finer elements of the IPA and causes me to miss the herbal character that needs further exploration.

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Photo of wl0307
4.08/5  rDev +4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Purchased at the BSF bar, GBBF 2009; this bottle-conditioned ale comes in a 330ml slim brown bottle, BB 2014, served faintly chilled in Tripel Karmeliet's long-stemmed tulip-shaped goblet. NOTE: much information about this beer is printed on the front label - Brewed on 29 April 2009, Bottled on 2 June 2009; EBC 22.2, EBU 42.6; Bitter-ing hops Galena + as late-hops - Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo + Dry-hopping with Cascade; this bottle is No. 51 from the batch of 1344 bottles only. The label actually looks like some freshly printed "laboratory briefing"...?!

A: a huge and foamy light beige froth sits on top of a moderately carbonated, slightly murky dark amber hue. Phenomenal.
S: the smell is more like a well-hopped Tripel with a bit more malt sweetness upfront; as indicated by the front label, the hop composition is indeed complex and hard to "dissect" for analysis, featuring Cascade et al. US hops' piney, apricot-ish, grapefruity & lychee-ish aroma, while Belgian/Dutch exotic yeasts also render a rich flower-estery & spicy (a touch of vanilla and coriander-seeds) aura in the background. In the middle is a more settled layer of overripe fruits (pears, bananas, and pineapples [smoothie like!]) and mixed, toffee-ish+sugary malts. Very pleasant and tremendously hoppy, but the malt syrup is equally rich to provide a kind of gravity.
T: the effervescent mouthful of spicy-bitter & powdery yeastiness and piney hops is refreshing and kicking my taste-buds hard, waking them up to a dry, citrus-peel-ish spicy-bitter aftertaste that ensues closely, as does a vanilla-ish herbal note... Also in the aftertaste, the bready+caramely malts develop by stealth, but way less significant on a balance already dominated by lingering lychee-shell-ish aroma and chewy, spicy, medium+ level of bitterness from both hops and yeast sediments. Surprisingly, at merely 6.2%abv., this ale should leave an interestingly warmer-than-average swallow as it goes down the throat!
M&D: refreshing and semi-lively carbonated with very fine fizz, giving an elevating effect on the flavour actually. The complex hop profile is all mixed up in terms of flavour, and then engulfed by the rich yeastiness that I couldn't have avoided even if a more gentle pour was applied, as the yeast sediments are by no means settled in the bottle - more in line with a Belgian/Dutch bottled ale. The combined effect makes a heavily hopped and yet immensely yeasty semi-IPA style of ale.

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

Photo of Metalmonk
3.91/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Great look, with a blinding white head that starts big and foamy and crackles very audibly to a thinner layer. The burnt-orange/rust color is just a shade soupier than your usual IPA. Overall this thing looks top-notch.

Smells American-ish, just one or two tiny twists away from something you could imagine Sierra Nevada brewing. And that twist could be some kind of hop variety that's not playing well with the others, or possibly the way these hops are combined in the recipe: Galena, Chinnok, Cascade (Sierra Nevada's go-to), Simcoe and Amarillo. Gives off a kind of nutty vibe, and it's quite the herbal smell, as well, reminding of various Asian spice mixes you cook Thai or Vietnamese cuisine with. A bit toasty, with a vibe of young/unripe oranges and tangerines. Certainly interesting, although slightly weird.

Same interesting hoppy profile in the taste as in the aroma. Something jutting out with nut-husk coarseness and a big, intense herbal layer. Cascade hops definitely make their presence known. Overall this is a beer with a big, aggressive flavor. On the drier side too, with a pronounced herbal bitterness in the finish that fades fairly quickly.

Clearly a European beer that's highly inspired by American IPAs, but this shouldn't be held up to the greats of the U.S. west coast. Rather, it should be approached as a twist on that whole deal. Pretty good stuff, but I'm still waiting to try a De Molen beer that's as good as Heaven & Hell. They totally nailed it there.

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Photo of soulgrowl
3.93/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Hazy golden sunflower yellow, capped with a sudsy white foam. This looks like a Hefeweizen but smells like an APA, pleasantly hoppy, very floral and citric but not too assertive. Big on lemon and geranium, with mango, passion fruit, and grapefruit as well. Malts and yeast present as but an estery spectre of white wine.

The beer delivers much more malt when you taste it, but this is still a hoppy beer, from beginning to end. Toasted biscuits slathered with orange marmalade, pine resin, grapefruit, and pineapple, with a chewy, frothy feel. Juicy but dry and just a little bit like sucking on raw hop cones. Just a little. Nice beer – I'd happily drink this any day of the week, any week of the year.

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Photo of Dave1999
4/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4/5  rDev +2.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

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4.25/5  rDev +9%

Photo of baggio
4.07/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

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A: Golden copper with a large, white, head and lots of lacing.

S: Berries, Citric notes, Flowers, Caramel.

T: Grass, Citric notes, Berries (raspberry mainly), Hint of butterscotch and pine.

M: Qute hoppy but the hops used works nicely together with the malty caramel backbone. Carbonation is medium and the liquid feels quite soft.

A very drinkable IPA. Nice!

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3/5  rDev -23.1%

Photo of metter98
4.27/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is hazy yellowish orange in color and poured with a thin off white head.
S: There are moderate aromas of grapefruit in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, there are strong flavors of grapefruit in the taste but only hints of accompanying bitterness from the hops. There are some hints of malty sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels medium-bodied and crisp on the palate with a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is extremely well balanced between the hops and malts. It’s very easy to drink compared to other beers in the style because it offers all of the aromas and flavors of citrus hops but without the associated bitterness.

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3.75/5  rDev -3.8%

Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
Beer rating: 87 out of 100 with 220 ratings