Vuur & Vlam | Brouwerij De Molen

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: American IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by wl0307 on 10-06-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
211
Reviews:
73
Avg:
3.87
pDev:
12.66%
 
 
Wants:
8
Gots:
30
For Trade:
0
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Ratings: 211 |  Reviews: 73
Photo of jaymo18
3.33/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of clarknova
3.34/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Sammy
3.38/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled in late 2009, good through fall 2014.
Bottle from Fred. Darkish golden with enormous white fluffly head, well carbonated. Very mild hop aroma. Not getting that much hop bitterness in most sips, I am getting more notes of slight sourness.Thnk it was a long boat trip.

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Photo of olradetbalder
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of whatname
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of bostonryan
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of Vargavaka
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of SayBoom
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of leitmotif
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of lgmol
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of HomerS
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of NorthSideSean
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of TheBadger0289
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of Magery
3.51/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of BlazerT
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Teku glass.

A: Amber, burnt orange with big, white head, medium lasting and medium lacing.

S: Light and refreshing aroma. Noticable floral, grassy, citrus (grapefruit) and piney hops with low aroma of tropical fruits in the background. In the end quite distinctive booz aroma.

T: Refreshing taste. Medium-strong, zesty bitterness. Quite noticable citrus hops (grapefruit peel taste) and floral notes, in the end you can taste also some piney character. Low to medium sweet malts taste (bready). Aftertaste is little sweet with characteristic taste of pale malts, which try to balance this.

M: Medium-light body. Semi-dry, but dry, clean and solid bitter finish. Thin texture. Soft carbonation. No alcohol warmth.

O: Drinkable, solid and refreshing AIPA. Nothing good nor bad can suprise you here. Just solid AIPA, but it should be packed more with tropical and citrus taste and aroma.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy light orangey color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma of citrus and bitter hops is dominant with light traces of cat pee. Taste is also dominated by citrus notes with a bitter finish and nice floral notes with some subtle traces of cat pee. Body is full with great carbonation. Well brewed though more floral notes would have been even better.

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Photo of barczar
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light golden color with a quarter inch white head that dissipates into a film of foam.

Aroma is comprised of confectioners sugar, grainy malt, and floral hops. There's a bit of dankness and a hint of citrus present. Grapefruit, citrus zest, and alcohol surface as it warms.

The flavor is fairly subtle, with bitter, catty hops overwhelming the light citrus notes. Tastes a bit flat initially, lacking in malt breadth. Not quite as much flavoring hops as expected. Tangerine and coriander add complexity. Lime zest becomes evident.

Body is moderate, with moderate to low carbonation, which adds to the flabbiness of the beer.

Somewhat disappointing from a flavor standpoint. Lacking malt and hop flavor for the style.

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Photo of amano_h
3.54/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

On tap at Brouwcafe de Molen (Bodegraven, NL)

S: Floral. Peristently grassy. Grapefuit zest. Resinous pine. Light tropical fruit. Slight booze. Some phenol.

T: Zesty citrus. Resinous pine. Herbs. Biscuits. Bready malts. Dry-ish finish.

M: Medium-light bodied. Tongue-tickling carbonation. Some heat. Spritzy. Refreshing.

O: de Molen's flagship "Fire and Flame" IPA. This one definitely needs some time to warm up for some of the undesirables (phenol, malty sweetness) aromas to fade away, but is otherwise a no-nonsense pine/resin-forward American IPA. The bitterness hits you hard at first, but the nice malt backbone extinguishes that fire, just leaving behind a warming sensation at the back of your throat. Maybe that's why it's named "Fire and Flame."

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Photo of Hultkrantz
3.55/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On the nose sweet, can-conserved cherries - plums a safer reference. (Edit 2nd: Bubblegum)
A silky body, honey, and a bitter aftertaste. A hint of ashes. The particular kind of bitterness in this beer was not to my liking.

Overall rather enjoyable. More amber ale than IPA, perhaps. I probably won't be buying this again though.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
3.55/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Aroma has a malty core, a strong yeasty overtone, and hints of grass and fruit. It pours a slightly orangy amber with a decent, fluffy white head. Flavor is definitely that of an IPA - hoppy with citrus and yeasty undertones and some bitterness. Smooth texture is firm-bodied and quite fizzy, leaving a decidedly hoppy and citrus finish. Overall, a decent IPA, if not an outstanding one, and worth taking home.

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Photo of SavoD
3.56/5  rDev -8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

This is in my opinion more Belgian style ale with a lot of hops then a classical IPA. However this does not mean that I object drinking it. The taste is a bit tropical and sweet , the only disappointment is the aftertaste that does not linger in your mouth.

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Photo of AviatorB737
3.57/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Fruity

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.57/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Pour is hazy pale orange with a rather tall and creamy off-white head. After slow dissipation the lacings appear, rich.

S: Tropical fruits galore! Rich American hops, bitter and floral; grapefruits, pineapples, ripe red oranges, peaches and lemon sezt. Caramell malts, semi-sweet, in the back but not weak in smell.

T: Follows the smell, but perhaps a bit milder. Think the smell watered.

M: Aftertaste is bitter and LONG. The body is rather thin while carbonation is rich.

O: It started of right, but the thin body ruins both feel and taste.

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Photo of Kegatron
3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33 cl bottle into a tulip glass. This looks to be from the most recent bottling.

Pours a coppery burnt orange, with several fingers of eggshell-white head. This retains with a foamy ½ finger, leaving back a thick frothy cascade of that settles into some heavy swathes of lace. Those Simcoe hops jump right out here in the nose, with a ripe dankness that is punctuated by notes of spice and pine. Sweetness from the malt seems to get lost along the back a bit, as that herbal character really pushes to the forefront here.

The taste has more of an earthy citric bitterness to it (mostly grapefruit flavors), which is amplified by sharper notes of resins and spice. Unlike the nose, there is not as much sweetness coming out from the fruit, with this having to rely more on the malts for balance. Notes of lightly burnt toast hang in the finish, along with a dry and warm spiciness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a moderate prickliness on the tongue before getting more creamy and slick on the edges. There is a smidge of warmth present in the body but no actual alcohol flavors are detected here.

This was a decent and drinkable enough IPA attempt from De Molen, which while remaining overall balanced and hiding its alcohol well, failed to really differentiate itself from the myriad of other attempts out there right now. Maybe getting to this when it was slightly fresher would have helped.

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Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
3.87 out of 5 based on 211 ratings.
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