Vuur & Vlam | Brouwerij De Molen

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: American IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by wl0307 on 10-06-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
211
Reviews:
73
Avg:
3.87
pDev:
12.66%
 
 
Wants:
8
Gots:
30
For Trade:
0
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Ratings: 211 |  Reviews: 73
Photo of Sammy
3.38/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled in late 2009, good through fall 2014.
Bottle from Fred. Darkish golden with enormous white fluffly head, well carbonated. Very mild hop aroma. Not getting that much hop bitterness in most sips, I am getting more notes of slight sourness.Thnk it was a long boat trip.

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Photo of spycow
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of t0rin0
3.25/5  rDev -16%

Photo of nmann08
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of metter98
4.27/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is hazy yellowish orange in color and poured with a thin off white head.
S: There are moderate aromas of grapefruit in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, there are strong flavors of grapefruit in the taste but only hints of accompanying bitterness from the hops. There are some hints of malty sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels medium-bodied and crisp on the palate with a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is extremely well balanced between the hops and malts. It’s very easy to drink compared to other beers in the style because it offers all of the aromas and flavors of citrus hops but without the associated bitterness.

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Photo of BEERchitect
2.88/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Where the old-school though about the "European" flavor was about skunk aromas and subsequent taste, it seems that the newfound relevence in American-style IPAs are developing an overly catty or marijuiana-driven taste overseas. Along with one single glaring problem, this beer captures this notion well.

Despite its dispicable-sounding name, Vuur & Vlaam pours with a very charming appearance. Peach and cammel colors carry an inherent hop-infussed haze that captures the light and dispurses in with an artistic glow. Capped with a dense white skirt across the glass, the beer layers and laces much like English cask ales.

Aromas start with the endearing citrus and topical character that extends over all of IPAs today. Grapefruit, oranges, pineapple, apricot, and lemons are all represented well and are backed with the supple support of light caramel and bread. But it's an accompanying peppery spice that entices the nose at first but then grows into plastic, then rubber, and band-aid aromas that prove to be too distracting to fully appreciate the more IPA-like aromas.

Fruit forward to start the taste, the malts allow the hops to represent fruits with a more candied taste. As the malty sweetness begins to fade, the beer's hop dominance begins. Flavors of ruby red grapefruit, tangerine, apricot, mango, pineapple, and lemons rise to command the taste. But its toward the end of mid palate where the beer's peppery taste interrupts and forces a highly plastic note to dominate thereafter. Spice trumps bitterness and creates a mess to close the session.

But the beer's body is spot-on IPA (having to look past the distracting taste). Dry malt sweetness carries an inherent thin creaminess that's aided by zesty carbonation. But even that is short lived as the beer turns bone-dry, alcoholically warm, and peppery to finish.

Although there's only one real problem with the beer, that yeasty phenol character really disrupts the finer elements of the IPA and causes me to miss the herbal character that needs further exploration.

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Photo of biboergosum
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A kick-ass find on draft at Beer Revolution in Cowtown - not a bad offering to christen (not an Easter reference) my 2000th review!

This beer appears a hazy golden medium amber hue, with one finger of tight foamy off-white head, which takes its sweet time melting away, eventually leaving a sparsely broken wall of painted lace around the glass.

It smells of grapefruit rind, mild bready caramel malt, and a soft pine resin essence. The taste is bitter blended citrus hops, caramel/vanilla malt, and some rank piney acerbic essences. More or less West Coast-ish, with a sight Mikkeller-esque Euro offset.

The bubbles are consistent, but none-too distracting, the body an ambivalent medium weight, and smooth without further outward intrusion. It finishes mostly dry, the hops turning kind of vegetal, retaining little of the citrus and pine that originally made me lust after this.

Not a bad IPA, but sort of middling, given the oomph generally required by the best in breed. Still glad I got a small pint, instead of a fifteen dollar bomber off the bottle-shop shelf.

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Photo of brentk56
4.2/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Arrives with an amber colored liquid; the head measures a bit more than a finger and leaves some decent lacing behind

Smell: Toffee malt with an herbacious citrus character

Taste: Light toffee, up front, followed by the herbal citrus flavors that add kumquat to the usual range; after the swallow, the herbaciously bitter flavors linger, though there is some residual sweetness in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: More of a Belgian IPA than an American IPA, due to the yeast profile; decent, but I have preferred others in this style

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy light orangey color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma of citrus and bitter hops is dominant with light traces of cat pee. Taste is also dominated by citrus notes with a bitter finish and nice floral notes with some subtle traces of cat pee. Body is full with great carbonation. Well brewed though more floral notes would have been even better.

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Photo of zestar
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of olradetbalder
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of oberon
3.89/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle on 21 December 2010.Poured overflowing into a nonic a deeply hazed muddy orange,the head even at a gentle pour went flowing over the glass wich was annoying.The aromas are great with big Simcoe and Amarillo sharp hops being the main component,a sweet caramel base is there as well.The mouthfeel is a little light for my taste but it doesnt take to much away from a nice hop profile on the palate,citric and herbal hops overtop of a sweet biscuit dough base.Its a really good ipa,it could be great with a few tweaks.

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Photo of chinchill
4.04/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

33cl bottle about 2 weeks past best by range.

Pours hazy copper with a durable, creamy tan head. The glass gets nicely coated with tipping. Some sediment remained stuck to the bottom of the bottle.

Aroma: more sweet malts, toffee, and Belgian yeast than hops.

Flavor: Like the aroma. Not really an IPA or even a Pale Ale, this is more of a Belgian Brown with a little extra hopping. Dark fruit notes and toffee linger on in the aftertaste.

Feel: medium body; medium, lively but semi-soft carbonation.

O: a very nice Belgian/Dutch brown ale.

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Photo of Kegatron
3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33 cl bottle into a tulip glass. This looks to be from the most recent bottling.

Pours a coppery burnt orange, with several fingers of eggshell-white head. This retains with a foamy ½ finger, leaving back a thick frothy cascade of that settles into some heavy swathes of lace. Those Simcoe hops jump right out here in the nose, with a ripe dankness that is punctuated by notes of spice and pine. Sweetness from the malt seems to get lost along the back a bit, as that herbal character really pushes to the forefront here.

The taste has more of an earthy citric bitterness to it (mostly grapefruit flavors), which is amplified by sharper notes of resins and spice. Unlike the nose, there is not as much sweetness coming out from the fruit, with this having to rely more on the malts for balance. Notes of lightly burnt toast hang in the finish, along with a dry and warm spiciness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a moderate prickliness on the tongue before getting more creamy and slick on the edges. There is a smidge of warmth present in the body but no actual alcohol flavors are detected here.

This was a decent and drinkable enough IPA attempt from De Molen, which while remaining overall balanced and hiding its alcohol well, failed to really differentiate itself from the myriad of other attempts out there right now. Maybe getting to this when it was slightly fresher would have helped.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.7/5  rDev -4.4%

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3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A somewhat light shade of amber with an off-white head. Floral and grassy hops dominate. There is a decent maltiness to the nose, mostly bready. Just a hint of fruit (citrus) in there, maybe some herbal and pine aromas. The flavor is fairly bready, but a decent enough hop flavor. Lots of floral notes with some pine and grass. A strange white grape flavor is also present. Decent, but not great.

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Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of BeerOps
4.04/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of 22Blue
3.81/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of MasterSki
4.28/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Local Option. Served in a wide-mouthed goblet.

A - A finger-plus of white foam that has great retention and settles to a thick cap, leaving behind splotchy lacing. Hazed copper-orange body.

S - Great juicy aroma of tangerines, tropical fruits, light pine and earthiness, and a bit of citrus zest. There's some faint cereal grain in the periphery, but this is like a delicious fruit cocktail.

T - Taste is nice, but doesn't pop or have the same depth as the aroma. Sweet citrus hops, and some sugary malt in the background. Low bitterness in the finish.

M - Lower carbonation, smooth medium body, and no obvious alcohol. Light hop oil in the finish, but otherwise largely clean.

D - This is a good beer that I'd gladly have again if I knew it was a fresh batch. One of the few European IPAs that I actually really enjoy. Hope there's still a bit left on Saturday night.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
4.39/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Review from 2011 notes (forgot to put review on BA). Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Pours a cloudy orange amber with massive, coarse two finger head that dissipates quickly, leaving lacing. Aroma of piney hops and light citrus fruit. Interesting resiny pine and dry bready flavor backed by light fruit and citrus. Semi-dry with a low malt presence. Nice herbal hop finish, somewhat dry and distinctive. Not as intense citrus a most american IPAs. This is quite unique in flavor. I usually like a good malt backbone in IPAs, which is lacking here, but the flavors are so interesting that I still really enjoyed this IPA. A reliably great brewery.

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4/5  rDev +3.4%

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4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of DoubleJ
4.07/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

A fresh bottle served at 't Proeflokaal in Delft and served in its own glass. On to the beer:

Looking toasted orange in color and topped with a small head from the pour. Thinn strings of lace ring around the glass as the beergoes down. A pleasant hoppy aroma shows that De Molen not only did their homework, but excecuted the brewing process well. Ripe grapefruit aromas escape and are paired with mango, burnt sugar, and a tease of tea.

Bringing the congas would be one of the few ways to make this beer more tropical. Already, the beer is full of a tropcial fruitiness, highlighted by sweet grapefruit and pineapple. The malt is not to be overshadowed, carrying with it toasted caramel and burnt sugar. The medium body is just right, but with very low carbonation, this already good Dutch IPA may have missed a chance to jump to an even higher level.

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Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
3.87 out of 5 based on 211 ratings.
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