Vuur & Vlam | Brouwerij De Molen

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: American IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by wl0307 on 10-06-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
211
Reviews:
74
Avg:
3.87
pDev:
12.66%
 
 
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8
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31
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Photo of f4zZ3
2.59/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle from SB

Served in bottle at home. When pouring, the glass fills up with a orange to gold liqiud. Some white head, about a finger high. Sinks fast with a little lacing on the glass.

Citrus-smelling one. Some lemon and orange, a bit of grapefruit as well. Some wierd note of old tired IPA. Minerals?

The taste is citrus as well. Not a long lasting one. Bitter but not for long. Thin body. Some kind of earthy tones. Would have been better with a bit more body.

Thin beer with moderate carbonation. The bitterness stays for only a short time in the mouth.

Not the worst IPA I've tried, but a bit of a let down. Way to thin in both body and taste.

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Photo of bark
2.84/5  rDev -26.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The colour is amber-brass, the liquid is clear. The two finger head is white and airy; it sinks slowly leaving some lacing on the glass.

The smell is surprisingly smooth. Lots of juicy hops and some bitterness. Bitter-sweet notes of lemon/lime and grapefruits. Orange peels and hints of rubber bands and green plants. Hints of alcohol and butterscotch. No harsh notes.

The taste is bitter with distinct green hoppy flavours. It is dry and all hop-centric, not much malt here. Some pine needles, grapefruits and tangerines. Thin body. The aftertaste is “green” and dry, almost harsh. Some butterscotch and harsh green plants in the finish.

The carbonation is medium strong, the bubbles are mid-sized and long lasting. The liquid is medium to thin.

Good bitterness and citric fruits, but the beer is way too thin and plain.

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.57/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Pour is hazy pale orange with a rather tall and creamy off-white head. After slow dissipation the lacings appear, rich.

S: Tropical fruits galore! Rich American hops, bitter and floral; grapefruits, pineapples, ripe red oranges, peaches and lemon sezt. Caramell malts, semi-sweet, in the back but not weak in smell.

T: Follows the smell, but perhaps a bit milder. Think the smell watered.

M: Aftertaste is bitter and LONG. The body is rather thin while carbonation is rich.

O: It started of right, but the thin body ruins both feel and taste.

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Photo of Hultkrantz
3.55/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On the nose sweet, can-conserved cherries - plums a safer reference. (Edit 2nd: Bubblegum)
A silky body, honey, and a bitter aftertaste. A hint of ashes. The particular kind of bitterness in this beer was not to my liking.

Overall rather enjoyable. More amber ale than IPA, perhaps. I probably won't be buying this again though.

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Photo of Maakun
3.91/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle in Orval chalice. Pours a nice light amber with small head that leaves some big bubbles floating on top.

Smell: very light and fresh, citrus, hops and a very light yeast.

Taste: nice grapefruity IPA taste, good medium fruity bitterness are balanced with light roasted malts. Quite dry. Latr some more spices and other citrus fruits. Aftertase is mostly bitter.

Mouth: again quite light and fresh.

Overall this is a nice IPA style beer. I like fresh and drinkbable beers, so this fits me fine, though it tends slightly to the light and delicate side.

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Photo of mitlinks
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of Mattias
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of FLima
4.27/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Hazy amber color with an abundant off-white head with good retention that goes till the end of the tasting.
Aroma of tropical fruits and citrus, hints of passion fruit.
Very well balanced beer, sweet malty flavor with a fruity and citric and bitter taste, presence of grapefruits and tangerine.
Medium to full body with a good carbonation and an effervescent sensation at start.
Had it their Op & Top first, which is also very good and then this, got even better! Excellent beer, difficult to say what to change.

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Photo of HomerS
3.5/5  rDev -9.6%

Photo of supermeniscus
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of jazzyjeff13
4.12/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 330ml bottle with a bottled-on date of May 14th 2012. Purchased from Trembling Madness in York a little while back, and stored in my fridge. Five hop varieties and two types of yeast - crazy...

Poured into a Delirium chalice. Bottle conditioned and highly carbonated upon opening. A hazy golden-amber hue with plentiful carbonation and visible sediment. Produces a vast head of fluffy white foam with superb retention; it resembles a meringue. This slowly reduces to a thick surface layer, leaving plenty of lacing behind. I wish I'd used my Duvel tulip instead! Aroma of fruity hops and Belgian yeast. Notes of white grapes, melon, mango, passion fruit, peach and citrus, accompanied by phenolic yeast esters, mild spice and a warming hint of booze. Fantastic.

Tastes of fruity hops and earthy Belgian yeast, underpinned by a hint of light, grainy malt. Notes of melon, white grapes, mango, tropical fruit, peach, citrus, fruity yeast esters, faint clove, phenolics, mild spice, herbs, stewed hops and a warming whiff of background alcohol. Dry and yeasty, with a stinging bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is smooth, spicy and tingly, with good carbonation and nice body. Stimulates the tongue and dries the palate. Aftertaste of fruity aromatic hops, Belgian yeast and a herbal bitterness.

Very tasty - lovely hop presence. More Belgian IPA than American, with tons of fruity hop notes followed by a more restrained yeast character. Dry and spicy; the balance between hops and yeast is carefully achieved. Lovely body - goes down like a dream. A quality brew, and an example of a successful Belgian-style IPA. Well worth trying if you come across it.

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Photo of CrazyDavros
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4.5

Pours pale amber with a large head.
Massive lychee hit in the aroma. Pretty much dominates. Graduall fades to let some peach and papaya through along with some spicy phenols and sweet, biscuity malt.
Biscuity and bready malt first up as flavours with a bold grapefruit and pine hop hit after. Some booze and Belgian phenols following, tripel-style.
Too much carbonation.

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Photo of cjac
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of profondo
4.75/5  rDev +22.7%

Photo of BEERchitect
2.88/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Where the old-school though about the "European" flavor was about skunk aromas and subsequent taste, it seems that the newfound relevence in American-style IPAs are developing an overly catty or marijuiana-driven taste overseas. Along with one single glaring problem, this beer captures this notion well.

Despite its dispicable-sounding name, Vuur & Vlaam pours with a very charming appearance. Peach and cammel colors carry an inherent hop-infussed haze that captures the light and dispurses in with an artistic glow. Capped with a dense white skirt across the glass, the beer layers and laces much like English cask ales.

Aromas start with the endearing citrus and topical character that extends over all of IPAs today. Grapefruit, oranges, pineapple, apricot, and lemons are all represented well and are backed with the supple support of light caramel and bread. But it's an accompanying peppery spice that entices the nose at first but then grows into plastic, then rubber, and band-aid aromas that prove to be too distracting to fully appreciate the more IPA-like aromas.

Fruit forward to start the taste, the malts allow the hops to represent fruits with a more candied taste. As the malty sweetness begins to fade, the beer's hop dominance begins. Flavors of ruby red grapefruit, tangerine, apricot, mango, pineapple, and lemons rise to command the taste. But its toward the end of mid palate where the beer's peppery taste interrupts and forces a highly plastic note to dominate thereafter. Spice trumps bitterness and creates a mess to close the session.

But the beer's body is spot-on IPA (having to look past the distracting taste). Dry malt sweetness carries an inherent thin creaminess that's aided by zesty carbonation. But even that is short lived as the beer turns bone-dry, alcoholically warm, and peppery to finish.

Although there's only one real problem with the beer, that yeasty phenol character really disrupts the finer elements of the IPA and causes me to miss the herbal character that needs further exploration.

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Photo of barczar
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light golden color with a quarter inch white head that dissipates into a film of foam.

Aroma is comprised of confectioners sugar, grainy malt, and floral hops. There's a bit of dankness and a hint of citrus present. Grapefruit, citrus zest, and alcohol surface as it warms.

The flavor is fairly subtle, with bitter, catty hops overwhelming the light citrus notes. Tastes a bit flat initially, lacking in malt breadth. Not quite as much flavoring hops as expected. Tangerine and coriander add complexity. Lime zest becomes evident.

Body is moderate, with moderate to low carbonation, which adds to the flabbiness of the beer.

Somewhat disappointing from a flavor standpoint. Lacking malt and hop flavor for the style.

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Photo of JDizz
4.5/5  rDev +16.3%

Photo of JavierGC
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of TasteTester
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of aztraz
3.25/5  rDev -16%

Photo of Jeffo
2.18/5  rDev -43.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Got this at the Mitra down the road. I've had this beer a few times, but never reviewed it. Buying it at the Mitra is pretty cool, so we'll celebrate with a review.

From a bottle into a snifter
Bottled on 14 May 2012

APPEARANCE: Slowly foamed out after opening, even after being in the fridge for a while. Pours a huge, three finger, looser, off-white head with steadfast retention. Color is a slightly hazy amber orange with higher levels of carbonation. Head just doesn't'quit, and gets looser and more pot holed as I wait. Eventually fades to a full wisp and leaves lots of chunky lacing down the glass. Too fluffy and carbonated a look for the style. Head was out of control.

SMELL: Medium nose of pale and caramel malts, some light floral hops aromas and plenty of grassy stuff. Decent, though not quite forthcoming enough, and not really what I'd expect from an American IPA.

TASTE: Starts out empty, unfortunately. Some pale malts, then some melon sweetness and lots of floral hops bitterness at the swallow. Milder yet lingering finish of bitter floral hops, some melon sweetness, and light grapefruit and citrus notes. Alright, but not all that complex or impressive, especially at the beginning.

PALATE: Totally off for the style. Light, thin body and overly carbonated. This beer pretty much always turns out like this, so I can only assume it's intentional. Creamy enough, but goes down very airy and finishes slightly dry on the palate. Not my style at all.

OVERALL: This is listed as an American IPA, but the look at feel resemble more of a Belgian pale ale. Overly carbonated, light and fluffy, the feel just doesn't help this beer's cause. If you're a fan of American IPA's, this won't do the trick. If you want a Belgian pale ale with a hop kick, this might be your thing. For me, I only drink this on occasion when I'm in the mood for something hoppy and there's nothing else around. Fortunately there's usually an insanely delicious imperial stout or barleywine available, so it's rare that I go to De Molen looking for a hop kick. Avoid.

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Photo of t0rin0
3.25/5  rDev -16%

Photo of rekel
4/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of CookstLiquor
4.29/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle. Whoa, there was a HUGE white, glass-filling foamy head that erupted from every pour. A bit ridiculous. Ah, but get a whiff, and it's all good. There's loads of exotic fruit hop notes. There's mango, melon and more--it's like fruit cocktail with hints of spice. The ample carbonation was refreshing and the aromatic hops were a bit more subdued on the palate. In fact, the finish, while bitter, dissipated quite nicely, so you're not left with an acrid bitterness. Quite a lovely beer and an interesting take on the American IPA.

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Photo of djtomain
3.25/5  rDev -16%

Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
3.87 out of 5 based on 211 ratings.
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