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Brouwerij De Molen

Style: American IPA

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.20%

Availability: Rotating

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Photo of CrazyDavros
3.9/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4.5

Pours pale amber with a large head.
Massive lychee hit in the aroma. Pretty much dominates. Graduall fades to let some peach and papaya through along with some spicy phenols and sweet, biscuity malt.
Biscuity and bready malt first up as flavours with a bold grapefruit and pine hop hit after. Some booze and Belgian phenols following, tripel-style.
Too much carbonation.

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Photo of BEERchitect
2.88/5  rDev -25.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Where the old-school though about the "European" flavor was about skunk aromas and subsequent taste, it seems that the newfound relevence in American-style IPAs are developing an overly catty or marijuiana-driven taste overseas. Along with one single glaring problem, this beer captures this notion well.

Despite its dispicable-sounding name, Vuur & Vlaam pours with a very charming appearance. Peach and cammel colors carry an inherent hop-infussed haze that captures the light and dispurses in with an artistic glow. Capped with a dense white skirt across the glass, the beer layers and laces much like English cask ales.

Aromas start with the endearing citrus and topical character that extends over all of IPAs today. Grapefruit, oranges, pineapple, apricot, and lemons are all represented well and are backed with the supple support of light caramel and bread. But it's an accompanying peppery spice that entices the nose at first but then grows into plastic, then rubber, and band-aid aromas that prove to be too distracting to fully appreciate the more IPA-like aromas.

Fruit forward to start the taste, the malts allow the hops to represent fruits with a more candied taste. As the malty sweetness begins to fade, the beer's hop dominance begins. Flavors of ruby red grapefruit, tangerine, apricot, mango, pineapple, and lemons rise to command the taste. But its toward the end of mid palate where the beer's peppery taste interrupts and forces a highly plastic note to dominate thereafter. Spice trumps bitterness and creates a mess to close the session.

But the beer's body is spot-on IPA (having to look past the distracting taste). Dry malt sweetness carries an inherent thin creaminess that's aided by zesty carbonation. But even that is short lived as the beer turns bone-dry, alcoholically warm, and peppery to finish.

Although there's only one real problem with the beer, that yeasty phenol character really disrupts the finer elements of the IPA and causes me to miss the herbal character that needs further exploration.

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Photo of barczar
3.53/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light golden color with a quarter inch white head that dissipates into a film of foam.

Aroma is comprised of confectioners sugar, grainy malt, and floral hops. There's a bit of dankness and a hint of citrus present. Grapefruit, citrus zest, and alcohol surface as it warms.

The flavor is fairly subtle, with bitter, catty hops overwhelming the light citrus notes. Tastes a bit flat initially, lacking in malt breadth. Not quite as much flavoring hops as expected. Tangerine and coriander add complexity. Lime zest becomes evident.

Body is moderate, with moderate to low carbonation, which adds to the flabbiness of the beer.

Somewhat disappointing from a flavor standpoint. Lacking malt and hop flavor for the style.

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Photo of Jeffo
2.18/5  rDev -43.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Got this at the Mitra down the road. I've had this beer a few times, but never reviewed it. Buying it at the Mitra is pretty cool, so we'll celebrate with a review.

From a bottle into a snifter
Bottled on 14 May 2012

APPEARANCE: Slowly foamed out after opening, even after being in the fridge for a while. Pours a huge, three finger, looser, off-white head with steadfast retention. Color is a slightly hazy amber orange with higher levels of carbonation. Head just doesn't'quit, and gets looser and more pot holed as I wait. Eventually fades to a full wisp and leaves lots of chunky lacing down the glass. Too fluffy and carbonated a look for the style. Head was out of control.

SMELL: Medium nose of pale and caramel malts, some light floral hops aromas and plenty of grassy stuff. Decent, though not quite forthcoming enough, and not really what I'd expect from an American IPA.

TASTE: Starts out empty, unfortunately. Some pale malts, then some melon sweetness and lots of floral hops bitterness at the swallow. Milder yet lingering finish of bitter floral hops, some melon sweetness, and light grapefruit and citrus notes. Alright, but not all that complex or impressive, especially at the beginning.

PALATE: Totally off for the style. Light, thin body and overly carbonated. This beer pretty much always turns out like this, so I can only assume it's intentional. Creamy enough, but goes down very airy and finishes slightly dry on the palate. Not my style at all.

OVERALL: This is listed as an American IPA, but the look at feel resemble more of a Belgian pale ale. Overly carbonated, light and fluffy, the feel just doesn't help this beer's cause. If you're a fan of American IPA's, this won't do the trick. If you want a Belgian pale ale with a hop kick, this might be your thing. For me, I only drink this on occasion when I'm in the mood for something hoppy and there's nothing else around. Fortunately there's usually an insanely delicious imperial stout or barleywine available, so it's rare that I go to De Molen looking for a hop kick. Avoid.

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Photo of CookstLiquor
4.29/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle. Whoa, there was a HUGE white, glass-filling foamy head that erupted from every pour. A bit ridiculous. Ah, but get a whiff, and it's all good. There's loads of exotic fruit hop notes. There's mango, melon and more--it's like fruit cocktail with hints of spice. The ample carbonation was refreshing and the aromatic hops were a bit more subdued on the palate. In fact, the finish, while bitter, dissipated quite nicely, so you're not left with an acrid bitterness. Quite a lovely beer and an interesting take on the American IPA.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A somewhat light shade of amber with an off-white head. Floral and grassy hops dominate. There is a decent maltiness to the nose, mostly bready. Just a hint of fruit (citrus) in there, maybe some herbal and pine aromas. The flavor is fairly bready, but a decent enough hop flavor. Lots of floral notes with some pine and grass. A strange white grape flavor is also present. Decent, but not great.

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Photo of Aethien
4.04/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Looks: Orange colour and a small off white head.
Smell: Pineapple and other tropical fruits are mixed with yeast, bread dough and some piney smells.
Taste & Mouthful: Aggressive carbonation accompanies the sweet tropical fruits and caramel taste alongside citric hops and a nice bitterness, the pine comes back in the aftertaste. All the flavours blend in very nicely together.

Overall: I think this is my favourite IPA by De Molen, a bit stronger than their Amerikaans and a nicely bitter and refreshing IPA. If not for the fairly high cost (Even in The Netherlands) I'd be happy to drink a couple of these on an evening.

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Photo of Cyberkedi
3.55/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Aroma has a malty core, a strong yeasty overtone, and hints of grass and fruit. It pours a slightly orangy amber with a decent, fluffy white head. Flavor is definitely that of an IPA - hoppy with citrus and yeasty undertones and some bitterness. Smooth texture is firm-bodied and quite fizzy, leaving a decidedly hoppy and citrus finish. Overall, a decent IPA, if not an outstanding one, and worth taking home.

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Photo of biboergosum
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A kick-ass find on draft at Beer Revolution in Cowtown - not a bad offering to christen (not an Easter reference) my 2000th review!

This beer appears a hazy golden medium amber hue, with one finger of tight foamy off-white head, which takes its sweet time melting away, eventually leaving a sparsely broken wall of painted lace around the glass.

It smells of grapefruit rind, mild bready caramel malt, and a soft pine resin essence. The taste is bitter blended citrus hops, caramel/vanilla malt, and some rank piney acerbic essences. More or less West Coast-ish, with a sight Mikkeller-esque Euro offset.

The bubbles are consistent, but none-too distracting, the body an ambivalent medium weight, and smooth without further outward intrusion. It finishes mostly dry, the hops turning kind of vegetal, retaining little of the citrus and pine that originally made me lust after this.

Not a bad IPA, but sort of middling, given the oomph generally required by the best in breed. Still glad I got a small pint, instead of a fifteen dollar bomber off the bottle-shop shelf.

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Photo of wordemupg
4.29/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml corked and caged bottle poured into tulip 3/4/12

A hazy golden orange, massive half glass of bone white foam retains well ending up as a loose soapy foam that leaves a few chunks of lace

S grapefruit and mango with some floral aspect, lavender perhaps? I get some sauv blanc vinous notes with some "cat's pee on a gooseberry bush" but its much better then it sounds. I want to say pine but it might be spruce with a little tangerine and passion fruit with very faint smoke from the chinook I'd guess, the perfect American IPA from across the pond

T still tropical but harder to distinguish the individual notes in the nose, everything sorta blends into a mellow balance of malty caramel and citric hops, tastes great but as good as it is, it has nothing on the nose

M much like the other De Molen brews I've tried this one has more bubbles then desired, my only complaint in this department

O great IPA with a focus on aroma, other then a little foam in the mouth this one is well above the norm

not sure why I'm above the average with this one because I'd assume everyone would love it, the smell alone had me at hello. The 13$ question finally comes into the equation and perhaps is my best answer, as much as I love this beer for an IPA (no "D" in front) its expensive considering the 6.2%.

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Photo of avalon07
4/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a brownish-orange color and a cloudy consistency. There was a huge, creamy, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A heavy hops presence in the aroma, with some malt as well.

T: Tasted of hops (a fair amount), some citrus (a little grapefruit), malt, and an almost bready quality. This tasted more like an English IPA than an American, but it was still pretty tasty.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

O: I'm not going to say this is my favorite IPA ever, but it is solid and well made.

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Photo of Caudalie
4.31/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured in a riedel magnum red wine glass, from a 330 ml bottle

A:Pours a pretty deep golden/orange color, with a thick and persistent head.

S: Wow, this is really intriguing, it reminds me of mango, peaches, and cooked/dry apricots. There's also a really nice white truffle smell, almost like stuff you get in overripe or botrytis attacked white grapes used for dessert wines. The beer shows similarities with the roussane grape based wines.

T: This is pretty good, quite balanced. Hops are not as aromatic as they were on the nose, but it's still pretty hoppy, with a great dry finish.

O: I really like it, with a smell reminiscent of american style IPAs, and a mouthfeel halfway between european and american style IPA. I'd smell that all day... Great buy

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Photo of Metalmonk
3.91/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Great look, with a blinding white head that starts big and foamy and crackles very audibly to a thinner layer. The burnt-orange/rust color is just a shade soupier than your usual IPA. Overall this thing looks top-notch.

Smells American-ish, just one or two tiny twists away from something you could imagine Sierra Nevada brewing. And that twist could be some kind of hop variety that's not playing well with the others, or possibly the way these hops are combined in the recipe: Galena, Chinnok, Cascade (Sierra Nevada's go-to), Simcoe and Amarillo. Gives off a kind of nutty vibe, and it's quite the herbal smell, as well, reminding of various Asian spice mixes you cook Thai or Vietnamese cuisine with. A bit toasty, with a vibe of young/unripe oranges and tangerines. Certainly interesting, although slightly weird.

Same interesting hoppy profile in the taste as in the aroma. Something jutting out with nut-husk coarseness and a big, intense herbal layer. Cascade hops definitely make their presence known. Overall this is a beer with a big, aggressive flavor. On the drier side too, with a pronounced herbal bitterness in the finish that fades fairly quickly.

Clearly a European beer that's highly inspired by American IPAs, but this shouldn't be held up to the greats of the U.S. west coast. Rather, it should be approached as a twist on that whole deal. Pretty good stuff, but I'm still waiting to try a De Molen beer that's as good as Heaven & Hell. They totally nailed it there.

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Photo of soulgrowl
3.93/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Hazy golden sunflower yellow, capped with a sudsy white foam. This looks like a Hefeweizen but smells like an APA, pleasantly hoppy, very floral and citric but not too assertive. Big on lemon and geranium, with mango, passion fruit, and grapefruit as well. Malts and yeast present as but an estery spectre of white wine.

The beer delivers much more malt when you taste it, but this is still a hoppy beer, from beginning to end. Toasted biscuits slathered with orange marmalade, pine resin, grapefruit, and pineapple, with a chewy, frothy feel. Juicy but dry and just a little bit like sucking on raw hop cones. Just a little. Nice beer – I'd happily drink this any day of the week, any week of the year.

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Photo of Mar02x
3.15/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - A white head that relative quickly retracts. Underneath this white cloud lies a clear golden fluid.

S - Citrus and pine along with some mango slices.

T - A reasonable full body with pine, citrus and mango flavors, nice!! It is however the aftertaste that kills this beer, it is a bit mucky.

M - The bitter aftertaste is to strong in this one, even a bit unpleasant.

O - A reasonable IPA, but I think it has been to long on the shelf.

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Photo of beerdrifter
4.12/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this up at the beer store at the De Molen Brewery. Hazy amber-copper pour with huge three finger head, with great retention and lacing. Really complex and unique floral, perfumey, citrus, nose with hints of ginger, peaches, pineapple, apples, and pine with a touch of soap. As it warms, a solid caramel maltiness emerges. The taste is just as complex and just as bold. Great fresh hoppiness with a nice solid caramel backbone. Loads of bitter pine and grapefruit nicely complemented by the sweet malt. Also getting ginger and a touch of cinnamon along with a little soapiness. The mouthfeel is thick and chewy but creamy and smooth as well with a great tangy finish. Vuur & Vlam literally translates to Fire & Flame, which aptly describes this great offering from De Molen.

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Photo of BeerMandS
4.12/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewed 19 November 2010
Bottled 21 December 2010
Bottle 1088 of 3511

Bright slightly hazy golden orange beer with a nice light weight head. It has a very expressive nose of tangerine, grapefruit, lemon zest, passion fruit, dried apricots as well as a graininess. The taste is not as expressive as the nose but it's a very good follow through with an anticipated bitterness that makes you come back for more. Medium bodied with good carbonation I'm happy a purchased two. Thanks Andy!


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Photo of alexhahn82
2.87/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A - A golden orange very clear beer, pours with a huge head (I do pour aggressively) that dissipates at a moderate pace.

S - A caramely and fruit like smell on the nose, quite pleasant, not a floral/traditional/mainstream smell to it which is refreshing.

T/M - mehhh. American Style IPA? Me disagrees. MEH. Still hard to put into words, but its caramel, mid to low hop backbone if you will.

O - Hmm, nothing too crazy here, quite safely played and would identify it more as a Pale Ale, not in malt characteristics, but in very tame underwhelming IBU's (42 in this and its an IPA?)

PP (Price Point) - Leftovers from a BA meet up, but if its more than $3 a bottle I wouldn't get near it.

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Photo of rtepiak
4.1/5  rDev +5.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

a deep american ipa with a quality range of palate and bittering. Nice yellow orange with a lacy head. Hints of belgian sweetness that is well backed with grassy pine. Sweetened pineapple, lemon notes, and the vietnamese triple green of cilantro, mint and chinese basil bittering. Clear a great beer for the rich side of vietnamese food.

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Photo of metter98
4.27/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is hazy yellowish orange in color and poured with a thin off white head.
S: There are moderate aromas of grapefruit in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, there are strong flavors of grapefruit in the taste but only hints of accompanying bitterness from the hops. There are some hints of malty sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels medium-bodied and crisp on the palate with a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is extremely well balanced between the hops and malts. It’s very easy to drink compared to other beers in the style because it offers all of the aromas and flavors of citrus hops but without the associated bitterness.

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Photo of socon67
3.96/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A - Pours orange with a thick creamy foam. There is an awesome amoutn of lacing ont he glass. Looks like some sediment swirling in the glass. Just a very inviting looking brew.

S - Scents of simcoe hops with notes of fresh apricot and citrus.

T - The fruity sweetness int he intial taste gives to a hoppy medley and ends with an astrigent bitterness. The finish is a little harsh, but overall a nice taste.

M - A strong IPA with a rugged finish. If you are okay with pungent bitterness this will drink well.

O - A great find amd glad to try this one. Recommended for those who like their IPA's bold.

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Photo of RuudJH
4.53/5  rDev +17.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

33 cl. , bottled 24 june 2011.

This is a great example of beer to me. De Molen usually makes great brews, and this one is just right, particularly in the style of ipa.

Looks orange brown, beige head. Great carbonation.

Smell and taste fresh. Peach, apricot, citrus, pine, green tea. Massive bitterness that stays in the mouth. Spicy bite in the aftertaste. Tough but balanced. Refreshing overall.

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Photo of Dope
4.15/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled 12/21/10, bottle # 436. 7 months old but what the hell.

A: Cloudy dark amber with a ridiculously huge white head that never seems to fade. Tons of lacing stuck everywhere.

S: Despite the age the hops are still quite fragrant. Definitely a decent variety in this. There's citrus, pine and grass that I can tell. Distinct simcoe smell. Some bread hiding in there too. Quite nice.

T: Still quite hoppy. Perhaps not as strong as when it was fresh maybe but it's still there. There's orange, pineapple and grapefruit, some pine in the middle, joining with grass on the tail end. Bitter pine and grass sticks through the aftertaste quite well. There is a bit of a medicinal herbal flavor floating around too, again mostly in the aftertaste. Herbal flavor starts to come out stronger in the aftertaste as the beer warms and starts to detract slightly, otherwise this would be higher rated. A bit of caramel sort of coats everything.

M: Lots of carbonation for that tingly mouthfeel. Lasting bitterness suits it well and joins in.

O: Wish I could have tried this fresh, I wonder how it compares. It is still very hoppy and tasty though. Not a malt bomb by a long shot. Worth grabbing if you see it somewhere local.

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Photo of oberon
3.89/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle on 21 December 2010.Poured overflowing into a nonic a deeply hazed muddy orange,the head even at a gentle pour went flowing over the glass wich was annoying.The aromas are great with big Simcoe and Amarillo sharp hops being the main component,a sweet caramel base is there as well.The mouthfeel is a little light for my taste but it doesnt take to much away from a nice hop profile on the palate,citric and herbal hops overtop of a sweet biscuit dough base.Its a really good ipa,it could be great with a few tweaks.

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Photo of muttyd
3.75/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured gently into a tulip glass yield a huge soapy/rocky off white head. As the head settles, it leaves suds all over the glass. Rather murky brew with some hints of sediment swirling around in the glass.

Despite having been bottled almost 7 months ago, this beer has a pretty impressive hoppy aroma; some pine, herbal tea, and citrus fruits. Sweet bready malts & slight alcohol notes follow the aromatic mix of hops. The flavor has a more piney/resiny hop character with a strong toffee/caramel malt backbone. Bitter grapefruit rind and spicy yeast character in the finish. Surprised that the alcohol (being only 6.2%) gives the warming feeling it does going down. Well carbonated and prickly on the tongue, this beer leaves a sticky/oily coating on your palate.

Being the first beer I have ever tried from De Molen, I am rather impressed. I will seek out this (and their other) beer in the future.

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