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Brouwerij De Molen

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Brouwerij De Molen
Smoked Beer
Ranked #38
Ranked #25,864
3.64 | pDev: 17.31%
Jan 09, 2021
Apr 06, 2010
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Notes: Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.
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Rated: 4 by paulish from New York

Jan 09, 2021
Rated: 4.47 by DvdP from Netherlands

Dec 13, 2020
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Rated by qrazvan from Romania

4.47/5  rDev +22.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5
Medium body & carbonation. Really smokey feel, plus a barrel taste. Dried/ smoked plums. Intense aftertaste. Simply great!
Nov 13, 2019
Rated: 4.25 by mishi_d from Romania

Oct 19, 2019
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Reviewed by GuyFawkes from Illinois

3.5/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5
From old, undated notes. Poured from the bottle.

Dark brown hue; tons of dark khaki sediment.

HUGE khaki head (careful pouring!); minimal lace.

Strong smoke nose, with hints of bacon.

Medium mouthfeel.

Smoke up front, very mild heat on the finish-one note, not real memorable.
Sep 02, 2019
Rated: 3.97 by Epiktetos from Czech Republic

Dec 26, 2018
Rated: 3.29 by BeerBeast from Florida

Sep 28, 2018
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Reviewed by ScruffySouthpaw from New York

3.89/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Served in a goblet from the bottle.

Appearance: Thin brown to black body had a tan head rising subtle at maybe half a fingers length.

Smell: Smoked BBQ scent with hints of cooked meat. Awkward scent which reminds me of a Rauch Bier.

Taste: Smokey brew, feels like I'm drinking a shish kebab on the grill with hints of coffee and black pepper. Confusing to the palates.

Mouth: sticky body with medium carbonation and burnt wood finish.

Overall: Good brew but I will never drink it alone. From now on, with a steak or pork chop. You'll understand when you get this lucky. Salud!
Jul 15, 2018
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Reviewed by crosenkrantz from Switzerland

3.41/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25
Good dose of smoke here. The burning part of the chili is totally out of place for my taste. Is combines with the acidity of the alcohol. Lacks body. I like the smoke but not the rest.
Jun 11, 2017
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Reviewed by Everydayoff from Thailand

4.02/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
On-tap served in a pint glass at Wishbeer, Bangkok.

Very deep murky brown to black in color, it comes with thick fluffy light khaki head that is here to stay with excellent retention before slowly subsiding to an eternal frothy crown and leaving unbeatable amount of sticky lacing all around.

In a nose, it is heavily smoked that reminds me of smoked bacon and somewhat meaty bbq-like. Chili is a nice complement with its mild peppery spice. Roasted malt is of course there too together with the suggestion of chocolate, caramel, burnt bread, and charred nut.

The taste is exactly just like the aroma with all the flavors of smoked bacon, smoked bbq meat, peat, mild chili pepper, roasted and toasted, chocolate, caramel, burnt bread, charred nut, as well as bitterness from both roasted and hop profile. Complex and tasty.

Rather full and thick body with creamy smooth mouthfeel and moderate crisp carbonation, the feeling is just right and well-rounded with a pleasantly dry finish.

Quite complex with heavily smoked and roasted profile yet not that easy to drink but would be good and very tasty if you are able to get into it.
Jun 02, 2017
Rated: 4.26 by Ristaccia from Nebraska

Feb 19, 2017
Rated: 3.91 by ygtbsm94 from Utah

Feb 05, 2017
Rated: 4.15 by user785335 from Florida

Jan 29, 2017
Rated: 3.99 by Coronaeus from Canada (ON)

Nov 24, 2016
Rated: 3.81 by BdM from Netherlands

Jul 08, 2016
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Reviewed by LAp from Ohio

4/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
An impressive (and very underrated) beer. A solid Rauchbier, and one of the few beers in which chili is a welcome ingredient. De Molen seems to have found the sweet spot in which a subtle touch of chili adds to the beer (I've yet to try a beer before this one in which the spicy heat did anything but detract from an otherwise well-done base beer). Dark, with a good malt body, and just the right amount of heat.
May 30, 2016
Rated: 3.63 by Dzu from Russian Federation

May 15, 2016
Rated: 3.88 by BlueSpader from Washington

May 12, 2016
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Reviewed by biboergosum from Canada (AB)

3.71/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
330ml bottle - dubbed a smoked/spiced stout, without specifying any sort of spice agent in the ingredient list.

This beer pours a rather hazy, dark brown colour, with a gushing amount of puffy, finely foamy, and creamy beige head, which leaves some chunky falling volcanic ash lace around the glass as it slowly melts away.

It smells of pungent meaty smoke, iodine, burnt rubber, wet wood, salt, grainy roasted caramel malt, and a small vegetal astringency. The taste is semi-sweet chocolate, gritty caramel malt, cured meat, Islay whisky in all its hard to love glory, black licorice, more scorched pavement rubber, a faint spicy vegetal heat, and a bit of charred coffee bean.

The carbonation is quite heavy-handed in its mouth-filling frothiness, the body an adequate medium weight, and not too bad in terms of smoothness, as long as you're okay with a big ol' dose of cognitive dissonance when it comes to the pervasive smoky elements, I suppose. It finishes off-dry, with a lessening of the Big Smoke (sorry, Toronto) and spicy essences, alongside the lingering complex maltiness.

Smoke and Fire is certainly an appropriate moniker for this intense offering - everything that Hel & Verdoemenis barrel-aged with Bruichladdich was not. Yeah, the smoked and whisky malts employed here must be from the Scottish isles, or from somewhere with a slavish appreciation for them. Anyways, one hell of a smoked brew, as along with the still unknown spice, the underlying stout doesn't get much love.
Feb 20, 2016
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Reviewed by Dentist666 from Russian Federation

4.26/5  rDev +17%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
Poured into pint.
Pours opaque dark brown with 2-finger tan head, moderate retention.
Smell - phenolic, peppery, smoked, whisky smokiness, ball pen ink, milk.
Taste - milk chocolate, coffee, whisky, chile pepper, licorice.
Medium body and carbonation.
Powerful stout as any other from De Molen.
Feb 12, 2016
Rated: 4.24 by Saviour from Russian Federation

Feb 12, 2016
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Reviewed by jmdrpi from Pennsylvania

4.21/5  rDev +15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
330 ml bottle, dated 25/06/2012, so about 3.5 years old. Label says drink by 4 years.

Dark brown, huge rocky head, over carbonated. Nice smokey aroma, some chile. Taste is well balanced yet complex. Some subtle smoke, dark malts. Medium bodied.
Jan 17, 2016
Rated: 3.4 by 22Blue from Kansas

Jan 12, 2016
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Reviewed by drmeto from Germany

4.11/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25
-pours the darkest of brown with no light coming through and a small to medium,frothy,beige head
-smoked meat,cooked potatoes,bready,iodine,vegetables,spicy,peppers
-smoke,peppers,chocolate,licorice,slight coffee,bready,toasty
-pepper heat noticeable
-medium carbonation
-medium body
-no alcohol noticeable
Smoke & Fire indeed.Very nice.
Jan 08, 2016
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Reviewed by SCproUA from Ukraine

3.55/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75
I put a very low estimate rather than the beer, because I believe that the manufacturer strongly overdone smoked. The smell and color level, but the taste is very intense smoking.
Dec 25, 2015
Rated: 3.81 by GangOf1 from Pennsylvania

Dec 12, 2015
Rated: 3.52 by jkhara12 from England

Nov 28, 2015
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Reviewed by stcules from Italy

2.89/5  rDev -20.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3
Dark brown, almost black. So and so foam.
Smoked smell, dark malts, peated. A touch of green hop, hints of chocolate and rhubarb.
Taste: dark malts and smoked. But it left very low taste in the mouth and in the aftertaste.
It is all upfront.
A bit boring.
Nov 23, 2015
Rated: 4.05 by -DF- from Russian Federation

Nov 16, 2015
Rated: 3.25 by Hayley_86 from Netherlands

Nov 12, 2015
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Reviewed by Roguer from Connecticut

3.92/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Total gusher! Fluffy, tan head; great retention; dark brown brew.

Very smokey aroma; any chili heat or malt depth seems to get lost to the smoke. Slightly sweet. Very pleasant, I might add.

A touch sweet, almost fruity, with plenty of smoke, growing on the back-end. It leans toward woody (vice meaty and bacon-y). Perhaps a bit of back-end heat, but again, the peppers are lost in the smoke.

Smooth, slick body, medium-bodied to slightly full-bodied.

Very tasty and unique smoked brew.
Oct 22, 2015
Rated: 3.21 by Fabianno from Brazil

Sep 10, 2015
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Reviewed by LiquidAmber from Washington

4.03/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4
Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Thar she blows! A slow geyser on opening; I wasn't ready and lost 1/3 of the bottle. After mopping up, this pours a very dark mahogany brown, nearly opaque in the glass, with a half finger, light khaki head with great retention and good lacing. Aroma is dominated by meaty smokehouse with light dark malt and a slight burn from the pepper. Flavor is also dominated by the smoke, but with much more dark toasted malt support, showing dark chocolate, hints of caramel and vanilla, nicely integrated, although smoke forward. Finishes with charred toasted malt, a hint of peat, and slight hop bitterness and a light pepper flavor which tastes more like vegetable pepper than pepper hotness . Medium bodied with a light creaminess and less carbonated than expected after the exciting opening. This was dated 2012, which I noticed after opening and I was relieved after the overcarbonated introduction that there is no sign of tartness or evidence of infection. In fact, this has aged nicely with the malt flavors well melded. The pepper has evidently mellowed, not hot, but with pepper flavor. The profile is solid imperial stout, but with added smoke and pepper flavors. I liked this quite a bit and regret the part that ended up on my walls and floor. I always look forward to new De Molen offerings, but will open the vintage ones in the sink from now on.
Sep 08, 2015
Rated: 3.71 by killcore from Russian Federation

Jul 01, 2015
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Reviewed by StonedTrippin from Colorado

4.25/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
in my eyes these guys are becoming one of the kings, and frankly have been for some time, ahead of their time really, and i am only just discovering so many of their awesome beers now. just fantastic stuff here, smoked imperial porter with chili peppers. not sure how old this is, but the peppers must have faded off a bit, as they are there in faint flavor, accent notes, but no heat at all, and its all way back. crazy pour like a lot of their other stuff, with a super tall mocha head of large soda bubbles and a dense chocolate brown color to the beer itself. the nose shows a lot of smoke right up front, almost peaty for a moment, wet and musky, with their familiar high gravity yeast in there as well. the peppers are way back, like in a dark chocolate bar, and bring out nuance without being a chili beer as most americans think of them. the flavor is really balanced between the smoke and the fire, which is what this label means. the booze serves to cut the intensity, and unite the elements. the yeast is again the star of another de molen beer, this time drying it out with a day old bread crust complexion and impossibly high carbonation. one of the things i like about these guys is their use of subtle european hops usually seen in pilsener types in these huge imperial stouts and porters. it gives the beers a very unique hop character and feel, and its common in several of their beers. these guys are pioneers, and while this one isnt my favorite that they do, its certainly up to the very high standards they have established with their other stuff.
Jun 30, 2015
Rated: 3.9 by SCW from New York

Jun 03, 2015
Rated: 4.24 by nathanmiller from New York

Mar 19, 2015
Rated: 4 by Ciocanelu from Romania

Feb 22, 2015
Rated: 3.88 by leitmotif from Romania

Feb 22, 2015
Rated: 3.96 by RickyS from Germany

Feb 10, 2015
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