Rook & Vuur | Brouwerij De Molen

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.

Added by johnnybravo on 04-06-2010

BEER STATS
Ratings:
107
Reviews:
44
Avg:
3.67
pDev:
17.44%
 
 
Wants:
3
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11
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Ratings: 107 |  Reviews: 44
Photo of crosenkrantz
3.41/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Good dose of smoke here. The burning part of the chili is totally out of place for my taste. Is combines with the acidity of the alcohol. Lacks body. I like the smoke but not the rest.

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Photo of Everydayoff
4.02/5  rDev +9.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap served in a pint glass at Wishbeer, Bangkok.

Very deep murky brown to black in color, it comes with thick fluffy light khaki head that is here to stay with excellent retention before slowly subsiding to an eternal frothy crown and leaving unbeatable amount of sticky lacing all around.

In a nose, it is heavily smoked that reminds me of smoked bacon and somewhat meaty bbq-like. Chili is a nice complement with its mild peppery spice. Roasted malt is of course there too together with the suggestion of chocolate, caramel, burnt bread, and charred nut.

The taste is exactly just like the aroma with all the flavors of smoked bacon, smoked bbq meat, peat, mild chili pepper, roasted and toasted, chocolate, caramel, burnt bread, charred nut, as well as bitterness from both roasted and hop profile. Complex and tasty.

Rather full and thick body with creamy smooth mouthfeel and moderate crisp carbonation, the feeling is just right and well-rounded with a pleasantly dry finish.

Quite complex with heavily smoked and roasted profile yet not that easy to drink but would be good and very tasty if you are able to get into it.

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Photo of Ristaccia
4.26/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.91/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of user785335
4.15/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Coronaeus
3.99/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of BdM
3.81/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of LAp
4/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An impressive (and very underrated) beer. A solid Rauchbier, and one of the few beers in which chili is a welcome ingredient. De Molen seems to have found the sweet spot in which a subtle touch of chili adds to the beer (I've yet to try a beer before this one in which the spicy heat did anything but detract from an otherwise well-done base beer). Dark, with a good malt body, and just the right amount of heat.

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Photo of Dzu
3.63/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of BlueSpader
3.88/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of biboergosum
3.71/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle - dubbed a smoked/spiced stout, without specifying any sort of spice agent in the ingredient list.

This beer pours a rather hazy, dark brown colour, with a gushing amount of puffy, finely foamy, and creamy beige head, which leaves some chunky falling volcanic ash lace around the glass as it slowly melts away.

It smells of pungent meaty smoke, iodine, burnt rubber, wet wood, salt, grainy roasted caramel malt, and a small vegetal astringency. The taste is semi-sweet chocolate, gritty caramel malt, cured meat, Islay whisky in all its hard to love glory, black licorice, more scorched pavement rubber, a faint spicy vegetal heat, and a bit of charred coffee bean.

The carbonation is quite heavy-handed in its mouth-filling frothiness, the body an adequate medium weight, and not too bad in terms of smoothness, as long as you're okay with a big ol' dose of cognitive dissonance when it comes to the pervasive smoky elements, I suppose. It finishes off-dry, with a lessening of the Big Smoke (sorry, Toronto) and spicy essences, alongside the lingering complex maltiness.

Smoke and Fire is certainly an appropriate moniker for this intense offering - everything that Hel & Verdoemenis barrel-aged with Bruichladdich was not. Yeah, the smoked and whisky malts employed here must be from the Scottish isles, or from somewhere with a slavish appreciation for them. Anyways, one hell of a smoked brew, as along with the still unknown spice, the underlying stout doesn't get much love.

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Photo of Dentist666
4.26/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into pint.
Pours opaque dark brown with 2-finger tan head, moderate retention.
Smell - phenolic, peppery, smoked, whisky smokiness, ball pen ink, milk.
Taste - milk chocolate, coffee, whisky, chile pepper, licorice.
Medium body and carbonation.
Powerful stout as any other from De Molen.

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Photo of Saviour
4.24/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of jmdrpi
4.21/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

330 ml bottle, dated 25/06/2012, so about 3.5 years old. Label says drink by 4 years.

Dark brown, huge rocky head, over carbonated. Nice smokey aroma, some chile. Taste is well balanced yet complex. Some subtle smoke, dark malts. Medium bodied.

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Photo of 22Blue
3.4/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of drmeto
4.11/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

L:
-pours the darkest of brown with no light coming through and a small to medium,frothy,beige head
S:
-smoked meat,cooked potatoes,bready,iodine,vegetables,spicy,peppers
T:
-smoke,peppers,chocolate,licorice,slight coffee,bready,toasty
-pepper heat noticeable
F:
-medium carbonation
-medium body
-no alcohol noticeable
O:
Smoke & Fire indeed.Very nice.

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Photo of SCproUA
3.55/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

I put a very low estimate rather than the beer, because I believe that the manufacturer strongly overdone smoked. The smell and color level, but the taste is very intense smoking.

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Photo of GangOf1
3.81/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of jkhara12
3.52/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of stcules
2.89/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Dark brown, almost black. So and so foam.
Smoked smell, dark malts, peated. A touch of green hop, hints of chocolate and rhubarb.
Taste: dark malts and smoked. But it left very low taste in the mouth and in the aftertaste.
It is all upfront.
A bit boring.

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Photo of -DF-
4.05/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Hayley_86
3.25/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Roguer
3.92/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Total gusher! Fluffy, tan head; great retention; dark brown brew.

Very smokey aroma; any chili heat or malt depth seems to get lost to the smoke. Slightly sweet. Very pleasant, I might add.

A touch sweet, almost fruity, with plenty of smoke, growing on the back-end. It leans toward woody (vice meaty and bacon-y). Perhaps a bit of back-end heat, but again, the peppers are lost in the smoke.

Smooth, slick body, medium-bodied to slightly full-bodied.

Very tasty and unique smoked brew.

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Photo of Fabianno
3.21/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.03/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Thar she blows! A slow geyser on opening; I wasn't ready and lost 1/3 of the bottle. After mopping up, this pours a very dark mahogany brown, nearly opaque in the glass, with a half finger, light khaki head with great retention and good lacing. Aroma is dominated by meaty smokehouse with light dark malt and a slight burn from the pepper. Flavor is also dominated by the smoke, but with much more dark toasted malt support, showing dark chocolate, hints of caramel and vanilla, nicely integrated, although smoke forward. Finishes with charred toasted malt, a hint of peat, and slight hop bitterness and a light pepper flavor which tastes more like vegetable pepper than pepper hotness . Medium bodied with a light creaminess and less carbonated than expected after the exciting opening. This was dated 2012, which I noticed after opening and I was relieved after the overcarbonated introduction that there is no sign of tartness or evidence of infection. In fact, this has aged nicely with the malt flavors well melded. The pepper has evidently mellowed, not hot, but with pepper flavor. The profile is solid imperial stout, but with added smoke and pepper flavors. I liked this quite a bit and regret the part that ended up on my walls and floor. I always look forward to new De Molen offerings, but will open the vintage ones in the sink from now on.

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Rook & Vuur from Brouwerij De Molen
3.67 out of 5 based on 107 ratings.
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