Rook & Vuur | Brouwerij De Molen

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.

Added by johnnybravo on 04-06-2010

BEER STATS
Ratings:
105
Reviews:
42
Avg:
3.67
pDev:
17.71%
 
 
Wants:
3
Gots:
11
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Ratings: 105 |  Reviews: 42
Photo of Ristaccia
4.26/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.91/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of user785335
4.15/5  rDev +13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Coronaeus
3.99/5  rDev +8.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of BdM
3.81/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of LAp
4/5  rDev +9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

An impressive (and very underrated) beer. A solid Rauchbier, and one of the few beers in which chili is a welcome ingredient. De Molen seems to have found the sweet spot in which a subtle touch of chili adds to the beer (I've yet to try a beer before this one in which the spicy heat did anything but detract from an otherwise well-done base beer). Dark, with a good malt body, and just the right amount of heat.

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Photo of Dzu
3.63/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of BlueSpader
3.88/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of biboergosum
3.71/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

330ml bottle - dubbed a smoked/spiced stout, without specifying any sort of spice agent in the ingredient list.

This beer pours a rather hazy, dark brown colour, with a gushing amount of puffy, finely foamy, and creamy beige head, which leaves some chunky falling volcanic ash lace around the glass as it slowly melts away.

It smells of pungent meaty smoke, iodine, burnt rubber, wet wood, salt, grainy roasted caramel malt, and a small vegetal astringency. The taste is semi-sweet chocolate, gritty caramel malt, cured meat, Islay whisky in all its hard to love glory, black licorice, more scorched pavement rubber, a faint spicy vegetal heat, and a bit of charred coffee bean.

The carbonation is quite heavy-handed in its mouth-filling frothiness, the body an adequate medium weight, and not too bad in terms of smoothness, as long as you're okay with a big ol' dose of cognitive dissonance when it comes to the pervasive smoky elements, I suppose. It finishes off-dry, with a lessening of the Big Smoke (sorry, Toronto) and spicy essences, alongside the lingering complex maltiness.

Smoke and Fire is certainly an appropriate moniker for this intense offering - everything that Hel & Verdoemenis barrel-aged with Bruichladdich was not. Yeah, the smoked and whisky malts employed here must be from the Scottish isles, or from somewhere with a slavish appreciation for them. Anyways, one hell of a smoked brew, as along with the still unknown spice, the underlying stout doesn't get much love.

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Photo of Dentist666
4.26/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured into pint.
Pours opaque dark brown with 2-finger tan head, moderate retention.
Smell - phenolic, peppery, smoked, whisky smokiness, ball pen ink, milk.
Taste - milk chocolate, coffee, whisky, chile pepper, licorice.
Medium body and carbonation.
Powerful stout as any other from De Molen.

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Photo of Saviour
4.24/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of jmdrpi
4.21/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

330 ml bottle, dated 25/06/2012, so about 3.5 years old. Label says drink by 4 years.

Dark brown, huge rocky head, over carbonated. Nice smokey aroma, some chile. Taste is well balanced yet complex. Some subtle smoke, dark malts. Medium bodied.

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Photo of 22Blue
3.4/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of drmeto
4.11/5  rDev +12%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

L:
-pours the darkest of brown with no light coming through and a small to medium,frothy,beige head
S:
-smoked meat,cooked potatoes,bready,iodine,vegetables,spicy,peppers
T:
-smoke,peppers,chocolate,licorice,slight coffee,bready,toasty
-pepper heat noticeable
F:
-medium carbonation
-medium body
-no alcohol noticeable
O:
Smoke & Fire indeed.Very nice.

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Photo of SCproUA
3.55/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

I put a very low estimate rather than the beer, because I believe that the manufacturer strongly overdone smoked. The smell and color level, but the taste is very intense smoking.

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Photo of GangOf1
3.81/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of jkhara12
3.52/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of stcules
2.89/5  rDev -21.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Dark brown, almost black. So and so foam.
Smoked smell, dark malts, peated. A touch of green hop, hints of chocolate and rhubarb.
Taste: dark malts and smoked. But it left very low taste in the mouth and in the aftertaste.
It is all upfront.
A bit boring.

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Photo of -DF-
4.05/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Hayley_86
3.25/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Roguer
3.92/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Total gusher! Fluffy, tan head; great retention; dark brown brew.

Very smokey aroma; any chili heat or malt depth seems to get lost to the smoke. Slightly sweet. Very pleasant, I might add.

A touch sweet, almost fruity, with plenty of smoke, growing on the back-end. It leans toward woody (vice meaty and bacon-y). Perhaps a bit of back-end heat, but again, the peppers are lost in the smoke.

Smooth, slick body, medium-bodied to slightly full-bodied.

Very tasty and unique smoked brew.

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Photo of Fabianno
3.21/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.03/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Thar she blows! A slow geyser on opening; I wasn't ready and lost 1/3 of the bottle. After mopping up, this pours a very dark mahogany brown, nearly opaque in the glass, with a half finger, light khaki head with great retention and good lacing. Aroma is dominated by meaty smokehouse with light dark malt and a slight burn from the pepper. Flavor is also dominated by the smoke, but with much more dark toasted malt support, showing dark chocolate, hints of caramel and vanilla, nicely integrated, although smoke forward. Finishes with charred toasted malt, a hint of peat, and slight hop bitterness and a light pepper flavor which tastes more like vegetable pepper than pepper hotness . Medium bodied with a light creaminess and less carbonated than expected after the exciting opening. This was dated 2012, which I noticed after opening and I was relieved after the overcarbonated introduction that there is no sign of tartness or evidence of infection. In fact, this has aged nicely with the malt flavors well melded. The pepper has evidently mellowed, not hot, but with pepper flavor. The profile is solid imperial stout, but with added smoke and pepper flavors. I liked this quite a bit and regret the part that ended up on my walls and floor. I always look forward to new De Molen offerings, but will open the vintage ones in the sink from now on.

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Photo of killcore
3.71/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

in my eyes these guys are becoming one of the kings, and frankly have been for some time, ahead of their time really, and i am only just discovering so many of their awesome beers now. just fantastic stuff here, smoked imperial porter with chili peppers. not sure how old this is, but the peppers must have faded off a bit, as they are there in faint flavor, accent notes, but no heat at all, and its all way back. crazy pour like a lot of their other stuff, with a super tall mocha head of large soda bubbles and a dense chocolate brown color to the beer itself. the nose shows a lot of smoke right up front, almost peaty for a moment, wet and musky, with their familiar high gravity yeast in there as well. the peppers are way back, like in a dark chocolate bar, and bring out nuance without being a chili beer as most americans think of them. the flavor is really balanced between the smoke and the fire, which is what this label means. the booze serves to cut the intensity, and unite the elements. the yeast is again the star of another de molen beer, this time drying it out with a day old bread crust complexion and impossibly high carbonation. one of the things i like about these guys is their use of subtle european hops usually seen in pilsener types in these huge imperial stouts and porters. it gives the beers a very unique hop character and feel, and its common in several of their beers. these guys are pioneers, and while this one isnt my favorite that they do, its certainly up to the very high standards they have established with their other stuff.

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Rook & Vuur from Brouwerij De Molen
3.67 out of 5 based on 105 ratings.
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