Rook & Vuur | Brouwerij De Molen

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands | website

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.

Added by johnnybravo on 04-06-2010

BEER STATS
Reviews:
41
Ratings:
101
Avg:
3.66
pDev:
28.14%
 
 
Wants:
3
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10
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Reviews: 41 | Ratings: 101
Photo of CHADMC3
3.6/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

To call this beer a gusher is a gross understatement as the foamy, light brown head absolutely erupts from the brown body and really hangs around a while before dissipating a bit.

As advertised, this beer is quite smoky, with hints of the chocolate malt and chili pepper as it warms, but also a touch phenolic.

The flavor is equally smoky with more pronounced chocolate malt and chili pepper than the nose and less phenolic profiles.

Medium to lighter in body with outrageous carbonation and a smoky finish.

A fine example of the style with great flavor, however a bit too phenolic in the aroma. Certainly a beer I am glad I tried and a worthy adversary to other in the style.

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Photo of thierrynantes
3.95/5  rDev +7.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (33 cl.) purchased from Clem's and tasted in 2012.

Appearance : reddish brown color with tan foamy head.
Smell : smoked aromas.
Taste & mouthfeel : roasted malt and wood, leading to bitter finish.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Rauchbier (smoke & fire means rook & vuur in Dutch).
To drink at cellar t° with smoked meat.

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Photo of smakawhat
2.52/5  rDev -31.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured from the bottle into my Dogfish Head snifter glass. Bottle dated August 18th 2011.

Appearance.. um ok.. let's call.. borderline ridiculousness. Ninety percent of my snifter is filled with foam that is going nowhere. It's like cellulose insulation in my glass. Seriously. I am looking at my bottle from which I poured. It's full of suds with half of it emptied. Body color is classic dark walnut brown to black. This is ridiculous looking, it gives me the impression it's infected. Finally settles down after a minute or so while I type this.

Nose is unique. Some rauch like classic smoke, beef jerky, but also some faint milk chocolate. Unfortunately, heavily phenolic, band aid smelling and too noticeable. Medicinal forward HEAVILY.

Palate starts off well, then finishes terribly. Hints off with classic smoke that descends into a mess. Afterfinish brings a giant novocaine blast. Seriously my tongue is numb as I am typing this, I feel the needle stuck in my gums. Mouthfeel is not too bad, slightly wet, but there's also noticeable heat here. When have I ever had a beer that NUMBED my sense? oh not until NOW! What joy is THAT?!?

Looking at the ingredients list, chilies? whiskey malts? umm where is this bouquet and flavor? This is a novocaine dentist office trip mess. I am craving a Schlenkerla now, this is not good and just makes me think what the heck where they thinking? Terrible, you've done better. I am scoring this overall REAL low, this is no fun at all and this is one of my favorite styles.. really dropped the ball here. Ok I admit using a snifter on this was a bit overkill, but the taste on this is a real disaster.

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Photo of avalon07
4.08/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a mug. Had a dark brown color and a murky texture. There was an absolutely massive, creamy, tan-colored, long-lasting head. Pretty good lacing.

S: As expected, a very smoky aroma, with a good amount of malt, too.

T: The flavor was dominated by the smoky quality, but that's to be expected - on some level it reminded of an Aecht beer. Also had hints of chocolate and caramel, and a surprisingly strong hops presence. A solid flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a super dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: Of course, a beer like this won't please everyone, but it is worth a shot if you like rauchbiers.

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Photo of DarthKostrizer
3.52/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Look: Dark brown with a huge 3 inch tan head and great retention and great circular lacing

Smell: Smoked wood and like the name of the beer suggest it smells a bit like a forest fire

Taste: It tastes a bit like chewing on a burnt piece of wood with some chili pepper in the background. Unique to say the least

Mouthfeel: Medium body and very over carbonated with just a slight bit of heat on the finish

Overall: I could not drink more than a bottle of this but I must say it definitely achieves it's goal

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Photo of soulgrowl
3.45/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Looks-wise this gives the overall impression of a malted milk ball; dark, thick, chocolatey brown with a big, sandy, beige head. The aroma is mostly a hickory-like smoke, molasses, Band-Aids, a drop of honey, and unfortunately little else. However, the flavor is nice, and has a fair amount of nuance, although it's too try and thin to really savor. Lots of chocolate, some whisky-like smoke, dates, walnuts, and oak – rich and savory. As for the chilli? It's there, but it's very, very subtle – at first you just get its flavor, which integraes well with the smoke, but over time it steadily builds to a satisfying heat that warms the whole mouth. Pretty good, but imbalanced and just a little uninteresting – there are similar and much better beers available from Mikkeller, Black Isle, and Rogue.

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Photo of TheJollyHop
4.25/5  rDev +16.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a wine glass, bottle dated 8/18/2011

A: Highly carbonated (too much), meringue like foam, excellent retention. Deep brown body with ruby-like hues.
A: Heavy smoked malts, some roasted malts, and maple sweetness.
T: Mesquite wood chips followed by liquid smoke, which blends into wisps of semi-sweet chocolate, and finishes with a long duration of slightly sweet smoke. Chili heat arrives mid palate, and makes its presence known without disturbing the smokey/sweet balance.
O: I must say I am impressed. Chili heat is dialed in, the balance of sweet and smoke is on point, and the mouthfeel is excellent. Top notch Rauchbier!

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Photo of oline73
2.51/5  rDev -31.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

I had this on-tap at Max's. Served in a goblet.

Appearance: Pours an almost opaque mahogany color with a layer of fluffy off white head that fades to a ring around the glass.

Smell: Smokey with some malt sweetness. Reminds me a bit of a band aid because it is a bit medicinal.

Taste: Smoke and dark fruit, the medicinal note shows up here as well. The finish is quite bitter with no peppers to be found.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tons of carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: This beer is way too medicinal. I'm really not a fan and wouldn't have another.

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Photo of rinhaak
4.6/5  rDev +25.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 5

Bottle purchased at Maruhn's in Darmstadt, Hessen. Brewed on January 20, 2011, bottled February 18, 2011, tasted January 5, 2012.

Bottle number 167/432

Pours a dark, nearly black color with an enormous head; the beer completely gushed out of the bottle when I opened it.

Aromas of red peppers, green olives, chocolate and sea salt. There is something definitely salty about the nose.

The flavor nearly knocked me over. Very intense with tremendous complexity, I could easily sip and analyze this all night. It starts a little sour with a cherry fruit flavor, progresses to a nicely hoppy bitter taste, evolves into chocolate, oak, and smoke flavors, finally finishing with chilis and an overriding peat. This is definitely a dark roasted beer, but what surprises me is how balanced the smoke and peat flavors are. This isn't a smoked beer, nor does it taste like it was aged in oak barrels (which it wasn't). But their peat smoked malts add just the right amount of extra character to really take this beer up to the next level.

This beer really blew me away for all its complexity and uniqueness, while constantly maintaining the perfect balance of all its flavors. My particular bottle almost had a brett flavor to it's sourness; it makes me wonder if they did any natural fermentation.

Certainly worth drinking; track it down if you can.

As an aside, I enjoyed half the bottle with chicken molé, and the combination was fabulous.

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Photo of TMoney2591
4.22/5  rDev +15.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Served in a Chimay chalice at Local Option.

It's funny: I came to the Local Option looking to try a different De Molen smoked beer, only to find it kicked and this one freshly tapped. Fair trade to me. It pours a dark black-brown topped by a finger of cream-white foam. The nose comprises campfire, smoked honey-baked ham, caramel and toffee. This is what I'm talkin' 'bout right here! Tasty. The taste brings in more of the same, with a lighter bit of toffee and more of a beech-leaning smoke, as opposed to the woodsier campfire of the smell. Still pretty tasty. The body is a light medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and a slick feel. Overall, a damn fine bit o' smoky goodness. Good times.

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Photo of Evil_Pidde
4/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pour is dark brown with a tall dark beige creamy head that slowly sets into nice lacings.

S: Smoke (obviously) and sweet malt. In the back there's some dark bitter chocolate.

T: Sweet roasted malt with lots of smoky notes. It tastes almost like smoked ham. There is a vanilla/chocolate vibe to it.

M: Aftertaste is long and holds smoky bitterness. Body is medium and carbonation rich.

O: Considering everything this is a pretty nice Rauchbier - complex.

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Photo of AgentZero
2.98/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A - Dark brown beer with a pretty good sized carbonation head that left some spots on the sides.

S - Char, burnt wood, little smoke, lot of heavy malts, slight bit of dark fruit.

T - Taste is a lot like the nose, but it focuses mostly on the char and ash. Slight bit of dark fruit and a dose of malt.

M - A lot of carbonation, too much actually. Body is also too thin.

O - Not particularly good or memorable. Taste is too bland and mouthfeel is kind of a wreck on this beer.

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Photo of ktrillionaire
2.33/5  rDev -36.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to Eric for the share.

A - It pours black and fizzy, and has a very large amount of dark tan foam atop.

S - Smells infected in a medicinal band-aid type of way, and besides that it is campfire-smoky.

T - Tastes like smoky infected dark Euro Strong Ale. In other words, the beer tastes like Porter-meets-Malt-Liquor in a funeral pyre of tar and ashes. Alternatively, car exhaust would be another apt descriptor.

M - Thin, fizzy, badly overcarbonated.

O - Drains were invented for times like this.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.9/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Thanks to Eric (TurdFurgison) for sharing this with me. 750ml bottle - #267 of 498. Served in a Heady Topper glass.

A - Finger of tan foam that settles to a thin cap, leaving splotchy lace. Brown body with some transparency at the fringes.

S - Smoke, some light chili peppery notes, bock-esque malt sweetness.

T - Taste is much more heavily peated, with some char and ash. Not nearly as sweet as the nose implied.

M - This is overcarbonated, and has a thin medium-light body. Some dry smokiness in the finish. Alcohol is well-hidden.

D - It's a nice smoked beer that is hampered by a weak mouthfeel. I'd try this again on-tap if I saw it at Local Option or one of the few other bars that have De Molen kegs.

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Photo of beerpirates
4.05/5  rDev +10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

75 cl bottel poured into my lost abbey stemware glass

A : A pitch black beer with a beautiful huge creamy dark brown head.
S : The aroma has notes burnt wood, roasted malt, dextrose, and hints of chocolate.
T : The flavor is sweet with strong notes of tar to start off, then comes medium notes of roasted malt, dextrose, dark bitter chocolate, and wood, leading to a very dry, roasted and bitter finish, where a note of cocoa appears. The chili tickles the mouth.

M : high carbonation , very smooth

D : alcohol is very well hidden , very drinkable !

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Photo of johnnybravo
4.72/5  rDev +29%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I had it in a side by side tasting with Schlenkerla Rauch Märzen. It's the same quality but the Rook & Vuur is so more intense in many ways. More smoke, better smoke if you'd ask me as in the side by side Schlenkerla tasted more like an ashtray and the Rook & Vuur like smoked sausage. It has way more body, but of course a higher ABV as well. Looked great, when down easy.

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Rook & Vuur from Brouwerij De Molen
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