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Rook & Vuur | Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
3.61/5
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107 Ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.20%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.

Added by johnnybravo on 04-06-2010

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#35,410
Reviews:
44
Ratings:
107
pDev:
17.73%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
3
Gots:
11
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0
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Ratings: 107 |  Reviews: 44
Photo of killcore
3.71/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.25/5  rDev +17.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

in my eyes these guys are becoming one of the kings, and frankly have been for some time, ahead of their time really, and i am only just discovering so many of their awesome beers now. just fantastic stuff here, smoked imperial porter with chili peppers. not sure how old this is, but the peppers must have faded off a bit, as they are there in faint flavor, accent notes, but no heat at all, and its all way back. crazy pour like a lot of their other stuff, with a super tall mocha head of large soda bubbles and a dense chocolate brown color to the beer itself. the nose shows a lot of smoke right up front, almost peaty for a moment, wet and musky, with their familiar high gravity yeast in there as well. the peppers are way back, like in a dark chocolate bar, and bring out nuance without being a chili beer as most americans think of them. the flavor is really balanced between the smoke and the fire, which is what this label means. the booze serves to cut the intensity, and unite the elements. the yeast is again the star of another de molen beer, this time drying it out with a day old bread crust complexion and impossibly high carbonation. one of the things i like about these guys is their use of subtle european hops usually seen in pilsener types in these huge imperial stouts and porters. it gives the beers a very unique hop character and feel, and its common in several of their beers. these guys are pioneers, and while this one isnt my favorite that they do, its certainly up to the very high standards they have established with their other stuff.

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Photo of Sixpoint
3.9/5  rDev +8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of nathanmiller
4.24/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Ciocanelu
4/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of leitmotif
3.88/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of RickyS
3.96/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Cheebacheebs
2.61/5  rDev -27.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Maybe the one I got was bad, but it tasted like sour cigarette smoke. I like sour beers and I like smoked beers. The problem is this taste like it shouldn't be sour.

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Photo of His_Royal_Hoppiness
3.75/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Decent levels of smoke, more like cigarettes than smoked food. Chili is surprisingly dominant with some whiskey coming through. Interesting mix, but overly sweet for my taste.

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Photo of RuudJH
2.5/5  rDev -30.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Pretty sure it's liquid smoke added. I hate that.

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Photo of samEBC
3.96/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of BlazerT
3.5/5  rDev -3%

Black with low mocha head, Low to average lacing. The aroma is wood smoke, also meaty aroma, leather. I don’t feel chilli at all. The taste is also smokey, leather, soy sauce and sweet. Palate it thin, low carbonation. The beer is lighter than you could expect, due to sweet character very drinkable. Really nothing special.

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Photo of olradetbalder
3.25/5  rDev -10%

Photo of Kiro
3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of dcmchew
3.7/5  rDev +2.5%

Pours pitch black, small tan head quick to a bubbly lace and some specks.
Smell of salty dark malts, smoked cheese, some peat, dark chocolate, faint vanilla, some dried plum, faint chili peppers (something like bell pepper pulp).
Sweet, a bit sour and juicy up front, did not expect that. A raisin and plum zing, even a somewhat citrusy note, quickly caught up by dark malts, roasted, grainy, almost bready, smoked, with a hint of dry scotch and faint peat. Bit of caramel and chocolate, too little. Some tobacco in the finish and mild chilis, not that bold, with just a subtle warmth. Quite a large amount of bitter hop too, especially for the style.
Light body, "wet", medium carbonation. Aftertaste has some roast, faint spirit and light peppers.
Not the smokiest of beers, rather light, same goes for the chili part. Easier to drink, but probably many people will find it lacking.

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Photo of lmaduells
3.89/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A rare beer. This is a beer smoked something strange. Only erveses had been smoked in Germany. There are dsegradat m, but if you encounter heir desquilibrada the smoke hid the rest of the beer.

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3.5/5  rDev -3%

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4/5  rDev +10.8%

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3.25/5  rDev -10%

Photo of monketeeth
4.25/5  rDev +17.7%

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3.75/5  rDev +3.9%

Photo of jbmalta
3.6/5  rDev -0.3%

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4/5  rDev +10.8%

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3.5/5  rDev -3%

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Rook & Vuur from Brouwerij De Molen
Beer rating: 3.61 out of 5 with 107 ratings
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