Mooi & Meedogenloos
Brouwerij De Molen

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American Imperial Stout
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4.01 | pDev: 10.47%
Brouwerij De Molen
Mooi & MeedogenloosMooi & Meedogenloos
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Reviews: 64 | Ratings: 168
Photo of SHODriver
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I think this was bottled 13 Feb 2012

A: Poured into a snifter to a deep black beer which is topped by a dense and rocky three finger cream colored head which fades slowly and leaves decent lacing
S: Smells of stewed fruits and toffee with a little spice.
T: Taste is stewed dark fruits, chocolate, roasted malts, toffee, more dark fruits and a hint of spice. The swallow brings more chocolate, toffee, roasted malts and dark fruits with a hint of dark toasted bread.
M: This beer is full in body with a slightly syrupy mouthfeel. Carbonation is effervescent but not prickly while the beer has a drying finish which is nice.
O: I'm pretty impressed by this beer. It has great flavors and some nice complexity. The flavors are also well integrated and plat well together which makes it an enjoyable drink. No strong hints of oxidation on this one either which is nice.

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Photo of FLima
3.86/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

I have been cellaring that for a long time.
Dark brown color with practically no head.
Aroma with notes of prunes, molasses-toffee, mild coffee, chocolate and some nobel hops.
Flavor with notes of prunes, molasses, lots of chocolate and burnt coconut, licorice, vanilla, wood, cognac, candied banana and a bit of raspberries. Dry and bitter aftertaste. After all this years, its 78 IBUs mellowed out.
Bordering full sticky body with low carbonation. Alcohol of 10.2% is well disguised and complements flavor once it warms up.
After all this years it really went back to its Quad origins with its high IBU mellowing out and caramel sweetness and esters gaining strength. It did remind me of a Brazilian manjar desert, which is coconut pudding with lots of caramel and prunes. I guess the chocolate is the Imperial Stout tweak, and maybe the high IBU when young. This might be better younger given that.

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Photo of DJ-Hophead
4.35/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Tap @ Small Bar, Bristol - Pours dark black with a thin tanned foamy head which quickly disappears. Medium carbonation. Nice lacing. Aroma - Dark chocolate, roasted coffee, fruit notes - raspberry. Taste - Sweet front , charcoal, dark chocolate, roasted coffee, licorice notes, light bitterness at the end. Surprised to see this listed as a Quad as it felt more like an RIS to me, a nice one to boot.

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Photo of GreesyFizeek
4.04/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled 2/13/2012.

This one pours a fairly dark brown, with a surprisingly active white head- it never truly dissipated while drinking this. There's a little bit of lacing.

This smells like molasses, brown sugar, sherry (oxidation), raisins, prunes, acidic coffee, and prunes. I get a little bit of cardboard on the nose.

I'm surprised- but this honestly tastes a lot like Dark Lord. There's a huge sugary dark fruit character, and it's quite sweet- and the sweetness really does remind of that mythical evil being. There's some dark brown sugar, a bit of chocolate, and fruity acidic coffee. It's definitely oxidized at 5 years old, but I don't get any actual cardboard in the taste, just sweet sherry. I can tell this may start falling off quite soon, though.

This is medium bodied, a little bit syrupy, with a lower but still active level of carbonation.

This is a very interesting beer. I'm curious as to what it was like fresh, but it's still quite nice 5 years out.

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Photo of Dzu
4.31/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from tap.
L: Black, weak coffee-like foam head.
S: Wine, red berries, raisin.
T: Grapes, grapefruit,caramel, vanilla.
F: Tight body and low carbnated.
O: Very good balanced, smooth.

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Photo of rex_4539
4.71/5  rDev +17.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

L: Jet black color, no head whatsoever, no lacing, nice carbonation.

S: Sweet, bourbon, alcohol. Amazing aroma!

T: Sweet, chocolate, bourbon. Superb!

F: Full bodied, yet smooth. Very drinkable.

O: Amazing imperial stout. I had just become a big fan of this one.

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Photo of Sabtos
3.65/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Muddy dark brown with a large tan, fluffy foamy head that clings like coral and dies to a thin film and ring.

Smell is nutty grape, raspberry, apple, light toast, with a touch of Brillo pad.

Taste is suh-weet caramel, prune, fig paste, apple butter and ginger snaps.

Slick yet bubbly and semi-dry.

At first smell, I thought this might top St Bernardus 12, but this is really overly sweet and has just a hair too much dark fruit, like straight prune juice. I may have had this a bit too old--I had forgotten I had allowed this bottle to reach the 4 and a half year mark!

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Photo of Bierman9
4.35/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

I had a 0.25l glass from draft at Arendsnest in Amsterdam on 26SEP16, for €4.75. Oddly, their blackboard listed this as a Russian Imperial Stout, not a Quad....

It was jet black, dense and opaque. Had a creamy but short tan head, fine and thin, with excellent lacework. The aroma was delicious! Reminded me here of a barleywine, with rich malts and loads of dark fruit (raisins, currants and dates). It was very smooth and medium bodied, though I thought it should have been more viscous.

While the aroma was all about dark fruit, the flavor had more bitterness. There was some dark choco and espresso, then a bit of dark fruit, but not what the aroma led me to believe. A solid, tasty bier, though a bit less than what I had my hopes up for. Cheers!

4.35/5 rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25


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Photo of stakem
3.93/5  rDev -2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

5/8/11 bottling pours a dark dark brown color with a huge khaki head.

This smells pretty crazy. Its dank and cheesy with old hop character, minerals, roast and candy sweetness.

The taste is sweet with chocolate, raison and some earthy grain roastiness. Some booziness to the finish but enjoyably so.

This is medium to fuller bodied with modest carbonation. A pretty decent brew that is stuck somewhere between quad and stout.

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Photo of Dentist666
4.25/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours dark brown with bulk of sediment and 1-finger nice golden head, leaving some nice laces. Smell - caramel, dark fruits, figs, dates, yeasts.
Taste - slightly acid, vinous, dark fruits, chocolate.
Smooth and drinkable, medium body and carbonation.

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Photo of MrDell
4.15/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

More like a stout than any quad I've ever had before, with little carbonation and thin body. Thoroughly enjoyable all the same with big dark chocolate and coffee flavours.

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Photo of cbutova
3.67/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle with date 13/02/2012 on the back. Enjoy within 5 years I will. Thanks ROBD for gifting me this.

A- Plain Jane 12oz poured into a tulip with a deep ruby-brown body and an insane cap. Foamy, frothy pillow about four fingers high with great retention; opposite of what I usually get out of this brewery. Lacing is ample, large twisted webs.

S- Dates, figs, raisins, grapes and heavily caramelized sugars fill the entire room it seems as soon as I pour this one. Beyond the big fruits are notes of rum, toast, Belgian yeast spice and musty oxidation.

T- As in the aroma, the dark fruits are very strong easily taking center stage in this flavor profile. Huge dark wine grapes, raisins, figs, dates and rum-molasses-caramel dark sugars. Malty backdrop is grainy, toasty, caramelized and ever so slightly roasted. Some yeast spice and a hint of smoke/char. Vinous.

MF- Probably the most surprising part of the beer is just how foamy this is. Super highly carbonated but inside an acceptable range by a hair. Creamy and puffy and the lightest warmth.

I always like trying De Molen brews; there is just a certain level of intrigue. Dark fruits really attribute to most of what is going on taking away from the complexity of the malts. Really heavy grape tone but very well hidden ABV and still solid to be honest.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.83/5  rDev -4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color with a large off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malts, licorice and a faint touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with strong flavors of chocolate, brown sugar, licorice, raisins and caramel. Then some breadiness comes in from the Belgian yeast and a hearty roasted malt character. The hops presence is mild but complementary and brings a decent balance. The after-taste is sweet.

M: Smooth and viscous, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty and complex, goes down ok, not too filling, strong kick, good representation of style, it’s a solid beer but there are others in the style that I would pick first.

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Photo of Marius
4.25/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pitch black pour with a very thin tan head that is slow to rise to the surface. Smells like dark cherries, almonds and roasted malts. Taste like dark chocolate, roasted malts, bitter cherries and a bit of coffee, as well as bitter hops. Smooth mouthfeel, flat and very bitter aftertaste.

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Photo of Chico1985
3.33/5  rDev -17%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

330ml with a bottled-on date of 2/13/2012.

A - Soft pour into a tulip results in a glass full of beige foam - head seems to be all or nothing with these guys. It eventually settles to about a finger on top of what looks to be black beer, but a hold-up to the light reveals a very dark red beer and plenty of carbonation bubbles. Good lace splotches left behind.

S - Cigarbox-roast-fruitcake, raisin, brown sugar, chocolatey caramel sweetness, some oxidation. Definitely De Molen.

T - Big dark fruit here with lots of raisin and red grape, big sweetness with lots of brown sugar, chocolate, and kind of an odd smokiness. Bitter coffee-ish finish.

M - Definitely too much carbonation. Spiky foaminess detracts. A bit of an alcohol bite but not too bad for the ABV. Just an odd mix of sweetness, bitterness, roast, foam. 330ml...should certainly be shared. Maybe three ways.

O - Smell-to-taste transference has never been De Molen's strong suit, this one smells promising enough but feels like a bit of mess when it comes to the taste. The uber-foam doesn't help things.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
3.73/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark chestnut / amber body with a soapy, tan head. Yeasty, fruity, boozy. Raisins soaked in alcohol, ripe plums, yeast, brown bread, sugar. Medium bodied. Sweet and boozy. Best shared.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
4.63/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

this is flat out up there with the best beers i have ever had, despite the fact that its nothing like a quad, or at least not like any i have ever had. brewed in 2012 the bottle tells me, i havent seen much of this one around, but found it on a dusty shelf down in the springs, score for me, this was on sale for like six bucks, what a steal! more head than you can imagine on the pour, i mean, its fizzing and frothing like a science experiment gone out of control, and i struggle to not waste any of the beer, the cap almost popped itself. the nose intrigues me right away, bitter orange peel and compost and again a yeast strain i have never encountered all grab me in a compelling fashion. what is this? not a quad as i know them, i mean, its not thick and sweet or even belgian in the least. totally different yeast, totally different grain build, but this one is about the synergistic whole, not the individual elements. there is a flavor here on the edge of fruity that comes on right after the initial rush of bubbles hits the tongue, but before the yeasty intensity sets in, and i cant quite place it. candied orange peel seems too sweet and acidic, a baked good of some kind, even a breakfast confection seems to heavy, and describing it as floral or blooming or even alive just doesnt do it justice. its familiar but not in beer, and i am in love with it here. the carbonation makes this drink like a session beer, the alcohol is wildly confusing to me, as the beer is only medium bodied without all the bubbles, but light as heck with them, and there isnt a sharpness of any kind. not sure about the yeast identification, its foreign to me, but id clearly does wonderful things to this beer. if this is what quad is in the netherlands, im moving. its that moving for me really. one of the best beers i have ever had, and reaffirms my new found love for de molen!!! this mouthfeel in this style is unheard of, and even if it tasted just okay i would score it well for that, but the fact that its so one of a kind yet totally incredible make it elite if not in a world of its own.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.9/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Really dark brown with just a bit of short-living off-white froth.
Smell of dark fruit jam, mostly raisin, date and some cherry, molasses, sweet dark malts, a bit of chocolate, a bit of alcohol, faint walnut.
Sweet dark fruit up front, bathed in molasses and caramel. Lots of raisin, fig, slightly sour cherries. A bit of citrus peel. Malts are toasty, bringing some chocolate, faint nut and dark bread crust. Nice and spicy, licorice, faint anise, teaming up with the warm alcohol in the finish and hinting strongly at Port wine. Light roast here too.
Medium body, almost flat, sticky. Aftertaste is still sweet, lingering molasses and some raisin, plus toasted dark bread.
A bit sweet, but a nice take on a quad. Really tasty, just a bit complex.

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Photo of aleigator
2.34/5  rDev -41.6%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.25

Small, soon vanishing head, leaving a thin lacing at the glass, pours a dark brown, almost black color.
Smells of molasses, toffee, chocolate with hints of flowery hops - overall just very sweet.

Almost no carbonation at all, begins sweet, with toffee and toasted malts, accompanied by slightly bitter hops, which invites a gentle bitter chocolate note to the palate. A short alcohol bite enhances the bitterness, but from a different angle, numbing the tongue, which then gets overpowered by cane sugar and molasse - very, very sweet. Lacks balance, the sweetness is too dominant, without being pleasant on its own, no interaction or counterpart is detectable in this. Finishes with slick sweetness and burning alcohol down the throat.

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Photo of beergoot
4/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Unique bottle label data: 13/02/2012

Thick, heavy, rocky head sitting atop a dark, garnet colored body. Heavy dark fruit aroma; dates and figs; caramel. The taste closely mirrors the the aroma with a stronger sugary sweetness lurking underneath. Heavy body with a lot of residual sugars present.

Rich and robust with a brazenly deep, dark sweetness throughout. Thick and chewy with a licorice-like tone. Boldly satisfying with a tangy sweetness and heft.

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Photo of janubio
4.75/5  rDev +18.5%

Dark opaque colour, with a dense off white head, good lace. Smell of dates, raisins, chocolate, caramel dried fruits. Srong palate, full body, sticky. Taste of dried fruits, chocolate, port wine, licorice, alcohol, caramel, dates. A bomb.

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Photo of Mikecap
4.1/5  rDev +2.2%

Bottled in 2012

A: Pours a deep brown, nearly black with a large frothy khaki head that slowly fades.

S: Some sweet malts, chocolate and dark fruits. Get some molasses too, subtle earth as well. Very inviting smell.

T: Lots of chocolate up front, with dark fruit, molasses and a nice sweetness, that does not overpower. A bit of booze comes through as well.

M: Medium bodied and smooth, with a nice sweetness and solid carbonation. A nice sipping beer that is great even as it warms. A bit more body might benefit.

O: A real solid beer here, not akin to many of the BSDAs I've had. I get much more chocolatey sweetness than I'd expect, but I dig it!

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.94/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours opaque black with a twon finger tan head with good retention and pillowy lacing. Aroma of molasses, dark toasted malt and more molasses. Flavor is sweet dark dried fruit, mainly dates and raisins, marizpan, slightly nutty and toasty. Sweet dark fruit finish with hints of chocolate, dark malt and tannins. Medium bodied with pleasant peppery carbonation. A quite nice Belgian dark, a bit on the sweet side, but rich dark flavors that support the sweetness. Warming, but the ABV is well covered. The most molasses I've ever encountered in an ale aroma. Molasses is not a major element of the flavor, however. The pour lead me to think I was pouring a dark stout and the flavor somewhat surprised me. Even translated, but name doesn’t give anything away. I enjoyed this, but its sweetness makes it kind of a dessert sipper. Nice for a cool, dark evening.

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Photo of asaharyev
3.98/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle date: 13/02/2012

Appearance: Very dark brown, with a nice 1/4" of tan head that sticks around. No light gets through except for through the stem.

Aroma: Dark fruit and twizzlers jump out at first, with a strong sweetness, and good alcohol presence. Further notes of brown sugar and raisins come through, with molasses undertones throughout.

Taste: Much lighter body than expected, but still nice. There is some bitterness, but not a ton. Licorice and molasses come through most, with a strong alcohol presence. The roasted and toasted notes linger, but the sweet fruit/licorice flavors fade relatively quickly.

Overall: A very good beer, with a well rounded flavor that sits and lets you sip for a while. I'd like to try a fresh one, but there are no dated bottles in my local shop.

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Photo of jdhilt
4.42/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a four finger light tan head that fades slowly leaving a good lace. Dark opaque brown color, some yeast left in bottle. Good carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is molasses, chocolate and dark cherry. Better flavor as it warms. Higher ABV is hidden. 330ml bottle $6.99 Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA.

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