Mooi & Meedogenloos
Brouwerij De Molen

Mooi & MeedogenloosMooi & Meedogenloos
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From:
Brouwerij De Molen
 
Netherlands
Style:
American Imperial Stout
Ranked #1,734
ABV:
10.2%
Score:
89
Ranked #12,227
Avg:
3.98 | pDev: 10.55%
Reviews:
66
Ratings:
105
Status:
Active
Rated:
Nov 23, 2022
Added:
Jul 20, 2010
Wants:
  8
Gots:
  20
SCORE
89
Very Good
Mooi & MeedogenloosMooi & Meedogenloos
Notes: Mooi & Meedogenloos combines both Belgian-style quadruple and an imperial stout. Sweet and spicy like the first but roasted and full bodied like the second. Flavour indication: chocolate, plums, brown sugar.

Translates as Beautiful & Ruthless
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Reviewed by Sheppard from Massachusetts

3.85/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75
Pours a dark brown with tan khaki head. It's quite aromatic, I get raisin and almonds to go along with kind of a port vinous nose. Maybe some anise as well. Really not lying when they say quad meets stouts - it's really got a chocolate, raisin, raisinetty character, although it doesn't have the sweetness of the raisinets. It's a more upscale dark chocolate version. The body is still lean and it has a nice prickly carb. There is some booze in there, but it isn't overwhelming. It maintains its drinkability in a way that more modern stouts certainly aren't. It's got old world execution. This is a very unique beer.
Nov 23, 2022
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Reviewed by JonnoWillsteed from England

4.08/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
L- Very black, even held to a halogen lamp, pours with a 5mm mid-tan fine-bubble head. Forms lacing on the way down.
S- A deep roast facet here. I don't get more detail as my nose/palate was bludgeoned by my previous beer (a massive coffee porter) just earlier.
T- Deep roasted, deep coffee (makes me sneeze!), some slightly 'warmer' cocoa too alongside.
F- Pungent, a big flavoured beer. One for slow-sipping in winter. It has some sense of richness - it needs it vs that taste - but I'm glad it isn't over-rich never mind straying into sweetness.
O- I now wish I'd had this on a fresher palate as I can tell this is a refined and elegant beer (despite it's strength). And I sense there's detail within the overall that is eluding me. It is a highly impactful beer but it's done in such a polished/balanced way that I'd happily drink this again. - No single aspect over-dominates, that's what makes it stand out as something rather special.
330ml bottle BB: 05-08-2025 £4.55 Bought from TremblingMadness/York as part of a large pick-your own consignment to London.

ps. An added comment a/o 30/03/21. I am not going to change anything above^, neither text nor ratings. Just, this is another bottle I am enjoying today. Big coffee + cocoa upfront that settle right down on sip #2 or #3. A subtle brandy [?] note. Wow this is so polished, so deeply intensely balanced. Perfect for slow-sipping. Just right for bidding adieu to a lovely evening...
Jan 28, 2021
 
Rated: 4.09 by DvdP from Netherlands

Dec 14, 2020
 
Rated: 3.52 by Cpmitchno1 from Virginia

Apr 10, 2019
 
Rated: 3.99 by SadMachine from New Jersey

Sep 07, 2018
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Reviewed by SHODriver from North Carolina

4/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
I think this was bottled 13 Feb 2012

A: Poured into a snifter to a deep black beer which is topped by a dense and rocky three finger cream colored head which fades slowly and leaves decent lacing
S: Smells of stewed fruits and toffee with a little spice.
T: Taste is stewed dark fruits, chocolate, roasted malts, toffee, more dark fruits and a hint of spice. The swallow brings more chocolate, toffee, roasted malts and dark fruits with a hint of dark toasted bread.
M: This beer is full in body with a slightly syrupy mouthfeel. Carbonation is effervescent but not prickly while the beer has a drying finish which is nice.
O: I'm pretty impressed by this beer. It has great flavors and some nice complexity. The flavors are also well integrated and plat well together which makes it an enjoyable drink. No strong hints of oxidation on this one either which is nice.
Aug 07, 2018
 
Rated: 4.03 by Ice_Cream_And_IPAs from New York

May 16, 2018
 
Rated: 4.26 by NightINgale from Russian Federation

Feb 04, 2018
 
Rated: 4.25 by paulish from New York

Dec 26, 2017
 
Rated: 4.5 by Dutchcraftbeergeek from Netherlands

Nov 12, 2017
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Reviewed by FLima from Brazil

3.86/5  rDev -3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4
I have been cellaring that for a long time.
Dark brown color with practically no head.
Aroma with notes of prunes, molasses-toffee, mild coffee, chocolate and some nobel hops.
Flavor with notes of prunes, molasses, lots of chocolate and burnt coconut, licorice, vanilla, wood, cognac, candied banana and a bit of raspberries. Dry and bitter aftertaste. After all this years, its 78 IBUs mellowed out.
Bordering full sticky body with low carbonation. Alcohol of 10.2% is well disguised and complements flavor once it warms up.
After all this years it really went back to its Quad origins with its high IBU mellowing out and caramel sweetness and esters gaining strength. It did remind me of a Brazilian manjar desert, which is coconut pudding with lots of caramel and prunes. I guess the chocolate is the Imperial Stout tweak, and maybe the high IBU when young. This might be better younger given that.
Nov 05, 2017
 
Rated: 4.25 by bigred89 from Maryland

Oct 22, 2017
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Reviewed by DJ-Hophead from England

4.35/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
Tap @ Small Bar, Bristol - Pours dark black with a thin tanned foamy head which quickly disappears. Medium carbonation. Nice lacing. Aroma - Dark chocolate, roasted coffee, fruit notes - raspberry. Taste - Sweet front , charcoal, dark chocolate, roasted coffee, licorice notes, light bitterness at the end. Surprised to see this listed as a Quad as it felt more like an RIS to me, a nice one to boot.
Oct 14, 2017
 
Rated: 4.31 by stephenlee from England

Oct 04, 2017
 
Rated: 4.25 by psmith161 from Indiana

Aug 24, 2017
 
Rated: 4.2 by jroof1 from Massachusetts

Jul 26, 2017
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Reviewed by GreesyFizeek from New York

4.04/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
Bottled 2/13/2012.

This one pours a fairly dark brown, with a surprisingly active white head- it never truly dissipated while drinking this. There's a little bit of lacing.

This smells like molasses, brown sugar, sherry (oxidation), raisins, prunes, acidic coffee, and prunes. I get a little bit of cardboard on the nose.

I'm surprised- but this honestly tastes a lot like Dark Lord. There's a huge sugary dark fruit character, and it's quite sweet- and the sweetness really does remind of that mythical evil being. There's some dark brown sugar, a bit of chocolate, and fruity acidic coffee. It's definitely oxidized at 5 years old, but I don't get any actual cardboard in the taste, just sweet sherry. I can tell this may start falling off quite soon, though.

This is medium bodied, a little bit syrupy, with a lower but still active level of carbonation.

This is a very interesting beer. I'm curious as to what it was like fresh, but it's still quite nice 5 years out.
Jun 19, 2017
 
Rated: 3.86 by CesarLopes from Brazil

May 24, 2017
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Reviewed by Dzu from Russian Federation

4.31/5  rDev +8.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25
Poured from tap.
L: Black, weak coffee-like foam head.
S: Wine, red berries, raisin.
T: Grapes, grapefruit,caramel, vanilla.
F: Tight body and low carbnated.
O: Very good balanced, smooth.
May 04, 2017
 
Rated: 4.24 by deg from New Hampshire

Apr 29, 2017
 
Rated: 3.59 by darktronica from Indiana

Apr 19, 2017
 
Rated: 4.25 by YvesB from Belgium

Dec 17, 2016
 
Rated: 4.03 by Freepack88 from Netherlands

Nov 21, 2016
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Reviewed by rex_4539 from Greece

4.71/5  rDev +18.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75
L: Jet black color, no head whatsoever, no lacing, nice carbonation.

S: Sweet, bourbon, alcohol. Amazing aroma!

T: Sweet, chocolate, bourbon. Superb!

F: Full bodied, yet smooth. Very drinkable.

O: Amazing imperial stout. I had just become a big fan of this one.
Nov 18, 2016
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Reviewed by Sabtos from Ohio

3.65/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75
Muddy dark brown with a large tan, fluffy foamy head that clings like coral and dies to a thin film and ring.

Smell is nutty grape, raspberry, apple, light toast, with a touch of Brillo pad.

Taste is suh-weet caramel, prune, fig paste, apple butter and ginger snaps.

Slick yet bubbly and semi-dry.

At first smell, I thought this might top St Bernardus 12, but this is really overly sweet and has just a hair too much dark fruit, like straight prune juice. I may have had this a bit too old--I had forgotten I had allowed this bottle to reach the 4 and a half year mark!
Nov 18, 2016
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Reviewed by Bierman9 from New Hampshire

4.35/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25
I had a 0.25l glass from draft at Arendsnest in Amsterdam on 26SEP16, for €4.75. Oddly, their blackboard listed this as a Russian Imperial Stout, not a Quad....

It was jet black, dense and opaque. Had a creamy but short tan head, fine and thin, with excellent lacework. The aroma was delicious! Reminded me here of a barleywine, with rich malts and loads of dark fruit (raisins, currants and dates). It was very smooth and medium bodied, though I thought it should have been more viscous.

While the aroma was all about dark fruit, the flavor had more bitterness. There was some dark choco and espresso, then a bit of dark fruit, but not what the aroma led me to believe. A solid, tasty bier, though a bit less than what I had my hopes up for. Cheers!

4.35/5 rDev +10.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

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Oct 10, 2016
 
Rated: 4.29 by HopBelT from Belgium

Sep 21, 2016
 
Rated: 3.73 by parpalapelix from Romania

Aug 01, 2016
 
Rated: 3.97 by Fabianno from Brazil

May 05, 2016
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Reviewed by stakem from Pennsylvania

3.93/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4
5/8/11 bottling pours a dark dark brown color with a huge khaki head.

This smells pretty crazy. Its dank and cheesy with old hop character, minerals, roast and candy sweetness.

The taste is sweet with chocolate, raison and some earthy grain roastiness. Some booziness to the finish but enjoyably so.

This is medium to fuller bodied with modest carbonation. A pretty decent brew that is stuck somewhere between quad and stout.
Apr 14, 2016
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Rated by Barnchaser from Kentucky

4.63/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75
Beautiful rich dark color and perfect lacing.
Smells of currants and raisins and malty sweetness.
Drank at cellar temp. Delicious.
Mar 10, 2016
 
Rated: 4.13 by dougbreathe from France

Feb 21, 2016
 
Rated: 4.21 by Saviour from Russian Federation

Feb 18, 2016
 
Rated: 3.9 by DispyDnb from England

Feb 17, 2016
 
Rated: 3.47 by windowside from Germany

Feb 08, 2016
 
Rated: 3.96 by jkhara12 from England

Dec 09, 2015
 
Rated: 3.66 by JavierGC from Spain

Oct 25, 2015
 
Rated: 4 by jrob21 from Georgia

Oct 23, 2015
 
Rated: 4.27 by Chelli from Massachusetts

Oct 23, 2015
 
Rated: 4.08 by BdM from Netherlands

Oct 05, 2015
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