Mooi & Meedogenloos | Brouwerij De Molen

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Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands | website

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 10.20%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by Jeffo on 07-20-2010

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56
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144
Avg:
3.93
pDev:
17.81%
 
 
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Photo of aleigator
2.34/5  rDev -40.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.25

Small, soon vanishing head, leaving a thin lacing at the glass, pours a dark brown, almost black color.
Smells of molasses, toffee, chocolate with hints of flowery hops - overall just very sweet.

Almost no carbonation at all, begins sweet, with toffee and toasted malts, accompanied by slightly bitter hops, which invites a gentle bitter chocolate note to the palate. A short alcohol bite enhances the bitterness, but from a different angle, numbing the tongue, which then gets overpowered by cane sugar and molasse - very, very sweet. Lacks balance, the sweetness is too dominant, without being pleasant on its own, no interaction or counterpart is detectable in this. Finishes with slick sweetness and burning alcohol down the throat.

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Photo of CommanderOfAwesome
3.18/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Feb 2012 bottle opened April 27th 2013

A: Pours a ruby brown with an insane amount of head. I was almost worried about it being a gusher. Full hand light brown head.

S: Oh man, dark sweet fruits. Very over powering with a bit of burnt plastic on the end of the aroma.

T: Sweet dark fruits. Very powerful. Prunes, Raisins, grapes a hint of chocolate. Little too sweet for my taste.

M: Medium bodied, really carbonated, too much so IMO. Sticky sweet, that coats the mouth.

O: Really sweet, pungent beer. More on the quad side just really dark fruit sweetness. Not my favorite style or taste profile but its there if you're into that.

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Photo of Arno
3.18/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

appearance: Dark brown with a huge foam top. Great lacing!

smell: Dark choclate, ripe fruit, candi sugar malts.

taste: Sweet and bitter deep dark chocolate and licorice like. Some dark ripe fruits and quite a hint of alcohol. Is a bit like a stout, but sweeter.

mouthfeel: Medium carbonation. Medium thickness, just like the taste suggests.

overall: It's a good tasting beer. It has a nice deep flavor of all the nice things (Chocolate, ripe fruits, sweet and bitter), but lacks a bit of depth and development. Also it's just a tad too alcohol heavy tasting to really enjoy for me.

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Photo of GONZALOYANNA
3.24/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Enjoyed on 3/12/11 in a Pint glass. Pure black, dark amber lights on sides. Foam dense, coffe&milk color neither much creamy nor persistent as expected. No lacing shown. Complex aroma, toasted notes & dry nuts. Intense toasted malt & cocoa hints hidden by dry bitterness & excesive carbonation. Little fat in mouth. I felt quite dissapointed in the overall, ´cause if a Brw knows how to perform a perfect Russian... for sure De Molen does, unfortunately not in Mooi case.

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Photo of Chico1985
3.33/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

330ml with a bottled-on date of 2/13/2012.

A - Soft pour into a tulip results in a glass full of beige foam - head seems to be all or nothing with these guys. It eventually settles to about a finger on top of what looks to be black beer, but a hold-up to the light reveals a very dark red beer and plenty of carbonation bubbles. Good lace splotches left behind.

S - Cigarbox-roast-fruitcake, raisin, brown sugar, chocolatey caramel sweetness, some oxidation. Definitely De Molen.

T - Big dark fruit here with lots of raisin and red grape, big sweetness with lots of brown sugar, chocolate, and kind of an odd smokiness. Bitter coffee-ish finish.

M - Definitely too much carbonation. Spiky foaminess detracts. A bit of an alcohol bite but not too bad for the ABV. Just an odd mix of sweetness, bitterness, roast, foam. 330ml...should certainly be shared. Maybe three ways.

O - Smell-to-taste transference has never been De Molen's strong suit, this one smells promising enough but feels like a bit of mess when it comes to the taste. The uber-foam doesn't help things.

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Photo of Sean9689
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Holy Grale at their De Molen Tap Takeover Event.

A - Pours dark brown in color, white head, thin collar, spotty lace.

S - Chocolate, malts, yeast, toffee, light roast. The sweetness isn't overpowering and works well with the roast & yeast notes. The booze is there, but doesn't impair the nuances.

T - Chocolate, booze, toasted malts, yeast, carmel. A little less sweet then the nose with a touch hotter booze note. More dark chocolate bitterness then the sweeter chocolate I picked out on the nose. Finish is toasted malts & caramel sweetness.

M - Medium body, good carbonation, creamy finish.

O - A nice Belgian Strong that has some good complexity and well-hidden alcohol notes. I like the bitter & sweet notes and it really works well together. Decent.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.51/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

.33cl bottled acquired at De Molen in Bodegraven and served into Antwerp Beer Passion Weekend 20cl stemware. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

A: Pours a four finger head of tan colour, fair cream and thickness, and amazing retention - especially for this high an ABV. The head's showing no signs of going down after four minutes. Colour is a dark brown with visible yeast particles.

Sm: Yeast, cream, caramel, and coffee. A mild strength aroma.

T: Cream opens to a caramelized malt foundation on top of which are notes of caramel, cream, coffee, and roasted barley. Alcohol is quite apparent, unfortunately. Complex but a bit imbalanced. Well built for the style.

Mf: Coarse - a bit overly so, and dry - but not enough. Doesn't quite suit the flavours like it should.

Dr: Hides its ABV alright. Very drinkable and of high quality. Fairly priced at the brewery. I'd have it again.

B

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03/29/2016: Bottle purchased at an Albert Heijt supermarket in Rotterdam. "Imp. stout-ish" per the label...not sure why this is currently classified as a quadrupel on BeerAdvocate.

Forays into the licorice/anise/fennel family - flavours I'm not too fond of. Raisiney and a bit dry as a result, dragging a bit on the palate. A hint of date.

Balance isn't as dialed-in as I remembered. Still a worthwhile brew at supermarket prices. More of a sipper, but drinkable.

B-

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Photo of mulder1010
3.53/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Jeffo for this beer. Much appreciated

A-- Poured a dark brown color and settled black with some tints of red on the sides. Slow pour got a massive, almost 4 finger brown sugar colored head. Did take its time to recede though. Very clean, left no lacing at all. Good head retention but think this might be a bit over carbonated.

S-- There is Alcohol in this?? Really?? 10.2%? Does not smell like it. Candied sugar, plumbs, and a lot of malt and roasted malts. Near burnt coffee like malts.

T-- Oddly enough big and thick but carbonated. Bittering hops do kick in in taste but this is on the thick side but with more carbonation. A lot of burnt coffee and stewed plumbs/ dark fruits.

M-- Sweet in the mouth. Almost want to say poached pear or plumb. A little thick and syrupy but workable. Bitter coffee finish with some dark fruits. Booze does become more noticeable in the mouth. More it warms up the more aniseed it becomes.

D-- Can be harsh and unfinished at times and at other times brilliant. Needs to be cellared for a bit. Can taste the serious potential this beer has. Worth finding and putting in the cellar for a year or so to let is smooth and round out. Very Belgian in style but done well.

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Photo of womencantsail
3.53/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for sharing, Rich.

A: The beer pours a hazed dark brown color that foamed up a little as the bottle was opened.

S: Smells of oak and vanilla initially. There's a lot of roasted malt and a bit of toasted bread. A bit of cherry and nut shell aroma to go with some chocolate, coffee, and a light booziness.

T: There is quite a bit of booze which gives the beer an almost tart flavor. Lots of roast and oak with some light toast notes. Cocoa powder and nuts with hints of licorice and molasses.

M: Medium bodied with somewhat high carbonation for an imperial stout.

O: I just don't "get it" with these De Molen beers. This was mediocre.

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Photo of Mebuzzard
3.56/5  rDev -9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A good looking beer, but holy hell...the head was about 7 fingers! Dirty glass? No. Used another. Same. Whew, that's foam! And looks like chocolate milk.

Dark pour. The aroma is coffee and dark chocolate. A bit of berry and dark toast.

Coffee lingers in the flavor, but fades. The yeast and bread come out a bit, too, but not much. Cranberry and some berry come and go across the palate. A hint of nuttiness. Toffee.
Not quite as sweet or candy-like that many dark Belgians (beers) have, which makes it more drinkable.

Solid beer. Price is touch steep.

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Photo of pixieskid
3.58/5  rDev -8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

When selecting it off the shelf, I thought it was another of their Imeprial Stouts, given the abv, ibu content, etc. But, as soon as I poured and tasted it, realized it was no Impy Stout.

Pours a dark brown/red with a nice head.
Notes of toffee with hints of herbal hops and ripe fruits. Honestly was pretty one dimensional but nice tasting with great balance and the abv was well hidden.

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Photo of dgilks
3.63/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pitch, inky black with a creamy, dark tan head. Good head retention and great lacing.

Spicy alcohol, bitter roast and a deep herbal bitterness are the most present items in the aroma. There is some bitter chocolate as well. Good.

Dry, bitter, a little hoppy. Some chocolate. There are a few harsh phenolics in the background. The flavour is actually quite straight forward and okay but a little more sweetness would help this along.

Medium-light body with moderate carbonation. Quite thin.

For me the flavours here are okay but the lack of body and residual malt doesn't help this beer.

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Photo of gford217
3.65/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle.

Pours very dark mahogany brown with a huge fluffy beige head that sticks around for ages and leaves tons of sticky lacing.

Aroma is very sweet with lots of candi sugar, chocolate and overripe dark fruits - sugar-coated raisins. Some oak and vanilla mixed in.

The taste has an initial kick that I wasn't expecting and is tough to place. Definitely some booze, chocolate and dark fruit. There is also a hint of tartness or something, can't pin it down. Boozy sweet finish.

Mouthfeel is highly carbonated, maybe too much for me, which lends to a lighter feel than I was expecting.

This is an interesting beer with a taste that had a lot going on. Sweet and boozy with some dark fruit and other things thrown in. Tasty though I couldn't drink more than one.

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Photo of cbutova
3.67/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle with date 13/02/2012 on the back. Enjoy within 5 years I will. Thanks ROBD for gifting me this.

A- Plain Jane 12oz poured into a tulip with a deep ruby-brown body and an insane cap. Foamy, frothy pillow about four fingers high with great retention; opposite of what I usually get out of this brewery. Lacing is ample, large twisted webs.

S- Dates, figs, raisins, grapes and heavily caramelized sugars fill the entire room it seems as soon as I pour this one. Beyond the big fruits are notes of rum, toast, Belgian yeast spice and musty oxidation.

T- As in the aroma, the dark fruits are very strong easily taking center stage in this flavor profile. Huge dark wine grapes, raisins, figs, dates and rum-molasses-caramel dark sugars. Malty backdrop is grainy, toasty, caramelized and ever so slightly roasted. Some yeast spice and a hint of smoke/char. Vinous.

MF- Probably the most surprising part of the beer is just how foamy this is. Super highly carbonated but inside an acceptable range by a hair. Creamy and puffy and the lightest warmth.

I always like trying De Molen brews; there is just a certain level of intrigue. Dark fruits really attribute to most of what is going on taking away from the complexity of the malts. Really heavy grape tone but very well hidden ABV and still solid to be honest.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
3.73/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark chestnut / amber body with a soapy, tan head. Yeasty, fruity, boozy. Raisins soaked in alcohol, ripe plums, yeast, brown bread, sugar. Medium bodied. Sweet and boozy. Best shared.

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Photo of AgentMunky
3.77/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a brandy snifter. Bottled 13 February 2012.

A: MASSIVE, oversized head. Even a moderate pour nets 4+ fingers of head and threatens to overflow the glass. Impressive retention, but not a good start. Heavy lacing.

S: Vague fruits. Porterish dark, chocolate, nutty malts.

T: Excellent! Rich, complex, and rewarding. Very sweet, with a sticky-fruity side and a chocolate, malty character. Raisins, dates, plums, and other dark, sugary fruits swim around, with a touch of Belgian yeast, a hint of roast, and some definite chocolate (especially on the aftertaste).

M: From all that head, I expected a bit more carbonation. As it stands, it's thick, smooth, and a tad oppressive.

O: A good beer, but underwhelming. Would look elsewhere for my BSDA, but did not tarnish my opinion of De Molen.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.83/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color with a large off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malts, licorice and a faint touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with strong flavors of chocolate, brown sugar, licorice, raisins and caramel. Then some breadiness comes in from the Belgian yeast and a hearty roasted malt character. The hops presence is mild but complementary and brings a decent balance. The after-taste is sweet.

M: Smooth and viscous, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty and complex, goes down ok, not too filling, strong kick, good representation of style, it’s a solid beer but there are others in the style that I would pick first.

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Photo of laituegonflable
3.86/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown; just a glimmer of colour through an otherwise black body. Head is beige and quite foamy. Soft and sinky on the top, sparse bubbles around the side. Thick, and retaining beautifully. If lace were a touch stickier it would be perfect.

Smells quite roasty. Lots of slightly sour espresso notes, with a generous dash of soy sauce giving a slight salty edge. Mild spice to it with licorice and some chocolate sweetness hanging at the back. Decent, but I'd like it to head either in the more roasty or the sweeter direction; the saltiness ultimately wins out.

Taste is quite a decent duck indeed. Roasty from the get-go, with spicy roasted malt giving licorice, espresso coffee and slight charcoal flavour. Mellows to a quite sweet mid-palate with caramel and a touch of raisin, then spice immediately takes over for the finish, with a dollop of alcohol heat, some darker notes of cocoa and coffee, and a slight floral hint at the end giving a very pleasant, clean finish to a potent palate.

Good body, bit rough around the edges though where the alcomohol hits.

Drinkable? Yeah, as a sipper. That clean finish is a winner, and there's not too much going on to put you off throughout the palate.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.88/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle. "Beautiful & Ruthless", eh? There must be more to that...

This beer pours a clear, very dark ruby hue, with three fingers of foamy, puffy beige head, which leaves some nice hanging swaths of sudsy webbed lace around the glass as it evenly abates.

It smells of lightly toasted, kind of grainy malt, some musty ashy notes, middling earthy black fruit, a bit of dry nutty coffee, and soft leafy, weedy hops. The taste is much fruitier, and fuller than I was initially led to expect - caramel malt, enveloped in rounded dark, slightly sour drupe flesh, some further Fig Newtons essence, a twinge of green Belgian yeastiness, biscuity dark chocolate, oily roasted nuts, and mild earthy, still a wee bit ashy hops. The big ABV does a stellar job of staying on the down low.

The carbonation is a tad sprightly, but generally even and structurally sound, the body a sturdy medium-heavy weight, and pretty well smooth, with just a subtle metallic burp from the booze barbarian at the gate. It finishes on the sweet side, the fruity malt flexing it muscles still, but hardly overdoing it with the latent floral, sassy hops having a thing or two to say in the matter.

Well, a decent stroke at one of my favourite styles, and with a north of 10%, integrated ABV to boot, quite drinkable. Now I can see my lost in translation error at the outset - this is, more or less, one of the Bold and the Beautiful, Dutch version.

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Photo of eric5bellies
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Drank from my Duvel Tulip

A - Pours a quad like appearance with a huge beige head that reduces to a film very slowly.

S - Aromas of small coffee and roasted malt.

T - Plenty of coffee present up front tha gives way to a very smooth caramel flavour. Some nice dark fruits in the flavour and finishes in quite a spicey way.

M - Slightly over carbonated and fullish body.

O - A very drinkable RIS

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Photo of Dope
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle dated 13/02/2012

A: A dark reddish brown pour with a big fluffy tan head. Fades slowly, very slowly. Leaves a foam island behind as well as decent trails of lacing as it fades.

S: Strong fruity figs and raisins up front. Loads of sweet caramel. A hint of cocoa? Mostly the strong and sweet fruitiness.

T: As in the nose, a strong fig and raisin presence up front. Caramel throughout. Chocolate kicks in the middle, a little stronger than in the nose but still subtle. Fades with a lingering earthy bitterness.

M: Medium-heavy body. Carbonation is spot on.

O: Interesting BSDA. It's fairly simple and very fruit-heavy. Surprising bitterness on the back end too. Solid beer, nothing too amazing however.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Really dark brown with just a bit of short-living off-white froth.
Smell of dark fruit jam, mostly raisin, date and some cherry, molasses, sweet dark malts, a bit of chocolate, a bit of alcohol, faint walnut.
Sweet dark fruit up front, bathed in molasses and caramel. Lots of raisin, fig, slightly sour cherries. A bit of citrus peel. Malts are toasty, bringing some chocolate, faint nut and dark bread crust. Nice and spicy, licorice, faint anise, teaming up with the warm alcohol in the finish and hinting strongly at Port wine. Light roast here too.
Medium body, almost flat, sticky. Aftertaste is still sweet, lingering molasses and some raisin, plus toasted dark bread.
A bit sweet, but a nice take on a quad. Really tasty, just a bit complex.

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Photo of Sammy
3.91/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle at Bar Volo(bottled May 26, 2011). Substantive bitterness, very coffee like bitterness. The aroma is very roast. Black bodied. Lacey. A long bitter finish.Average mouthfeel, and a small amount of chocolate malt. More of an imperial stout. Decent drinkability, although something I may not reach for again. A bomber is a lot for three people.Slightly drying aftertaste.

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Photo of stakem
3.93/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

5/8/11 bottling pours a dark dark brown color with a huge khaki head.

This smells pretty crazy. Its dank and cheesy with old hop character, minerals, roast and candy sweetness.

The taste is sweet with chocolate, raison and some earthy grain roastiness. Some booziness to the finish but enjoyably so.

This is medium to fuller bodied with modest carbonation. A pretty decent brew that is stuck somewhere between quad and stout.

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Photo of LiquidAmber
3.94/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours opaque black with a twon finger tan head with good retention and pillowy lacing. Aroma of molasses, dark toasted malt and more molasses. Flavor is sweet dark dried fruit, mainly dates and raisins, marizpan, slightly nutty and toasty. Sweet dark fruit finish with hints of chocolate, dark malt and tannins. Medium bodied with pleasant peppery carbonation. A quite nice Belgian dark, a bit on the sweet side, but rich dark flavors that support the sweetness. Warming, but the ABV is well covered. The most molasses I've ever encountered in an ale aroma. Molasses is not a major element of the flavor, however. The pour lead me to think I was pouring a dark stout and the flavor somewhat surprised me. Even translated, but name doesn’t give anything away. I enjoyed this, but its sweetness makes it kind of a dessert sipper. Nice for a cool, dark evening.

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Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
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