Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. | Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen
Netherlands
brouwerijdemolen.nl

Style: Russian Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 11.00%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by doopiedoopiedoo on 02-26-2011

BEER STATS
Ratings:
102
Reviews:
38
Avg:
4.19
pDev:
9.31%
 
 
Wants:
48
Gots:
20
For Trade:
3
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Photo of DefenCorps
4.17/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Thorpe429 , alongside the regular and Misto BA versions (shared by TurdFurgison). Thanks, guys!

Black and flat, this has reddish-brown highlights. The nose is better than the Misto, IMO. Fruitier with more coffee, a nice dark fruit and chocolate character to go with the boozier, less complex barrel character. Despite the reduced complexity, this works better IMO. The palate opens boozier, hotter and with brown sugar, vanilla and plenty of chocolate.Moderately roasty with some burnt malt bitterness present, this finishes a little sweet and boozy with plenty of chocolate liqueur. Excellent stuff

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Photo of Jwale73
3.74/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Had this in the bottle at Beervana 2013 and I was completely blown away. Still, but a solid 4.5 nonetheless. Had the chance to revisit this beer on 5/14/2014 at Norey's - not the same beer.

6oz. pour served in a sampler. Color was consistent with cola in hue and clarity. Head was 1/8th of an inch and khaki-colored. Nose is typical of a Russian Imperial Stout, but really no evidence of the barrel here - roast, char, dark malts and a hint of cocoa. Taste consistent with nose with just a trace of ethanol. The version out of the bottle was quite vibrant. The draft version gave no impression of barrel-aging whatsoever. Mouthfeel was light-medium in body with an even carbonation level, but a bit too assertive for my sensibilities. Overall - much better in the bottle and I question whether this may actually have been the standard Hel & Verdoemensis. I hope this was the case because this was fairly disappointing.

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4.5/5  rDev +7.4%

Photo of jrallen34
3.44/5  rDev -17.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

batch 2, bottle # 1256... dark brown body, hint of dark amber on the fringe, a dark tan head rises about two fingers but is gone way to quick to only leave a light watery ring... light bourbon backbone, present but not overpowering, in addition to the bourbon, light chocolate, molasses and vanilla, like it but not strong enough, too muted to love it... taste is chocolate with alcohol, too alcoholic, a bit of vanilla on the back, ok... mouthfeel is full and velvety but a touch to warm... this is ok, probably needs some more time as its too hot... a little disappointing

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Photo of bsuedekum
4.75/5  rDev +13.4%

Photo of tectactoe
4.1/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Will for splitting this bottle, along with a few other De Molen goodies. The Wild Turkey barrel variant of Hel & Verdoemenis shows pretty much the same color as the last two variants that were enjoyed before it (shocking, right?); black in the center and dark brown around the edges. This one show a bit more carbonation liveliness with an actual head that forms momentarily before fading to a lighter colored collar.

Robust and powerful aroma; I'm starting to learn that most of the Hel & Verdoemenis series of beers are quite strong and potent, even when you already consider that they're all 10%+ ABV Russian imperial stouts. Dark, bitter chocolate, moderate amounts of oak, smooth, warming bourbon, and some back o' the nostrils, ashy roast and char. Definitely a nose-hair burner, but the booze is integrated much better in this particular variant, methinks.

The first sip is shockingly just a little sweeter than the last two H&V beers, and it's certainly a welcomed change. Again, the beer is full of plentiful dark chocolate, roasty malt, and lighter amounts of coffee, but there's a swimming undercurrent of sweet creaminess that really tames the background of dry oak and warming bourbon. This subtle, yet powerful sweetness is exactly what I feel was lacking in the first two variants we sampled - I'm glad it finally showed up.

That's not to say that this brew isn't boozy, though - it's 11% ABV, and it demands sippage and respect just as well as any other 11% ABV stout, but the touch of sweet, underlying cream provides the balance that really does wonders for the drinkability. As with the others, the mouth feel would benefit from a bit more thickness to match the robustness of the aromas and flavors, but this variant contains a little more carbonation, which definitely helps some, too.

I thought this would be my least favorite of the three Hel & Verdoemenis variants we tried that night, mainly because I'm not a huge fan of Wild Turkey (and it had the lowest online ratings of the three). But low and behold, it was actually my favorite of them all, and by quite a large margin. The key is the mild sweetness, helping to blunt the heavy booze and roast.

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Photo of thagr81us
4.54/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Massive thanks goes out to beeruser for sharing this one with funkydelic and I at an impromptu tasting! First batch (96 bottles)! Served from bottle into a Mikkeller sampler wine glass. Poured a massively dark brownwith a minimal light tan head. There was no lacing evident throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, dark chocolate, wood, and dark fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, roasted malt, dark chocolate, coffee, wood, and subtle sweet alcohol. It had a medium feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this was just an excellent brew. The aroma on this one was excellent. So much so, it actually took me awhile to take my first sip as I kept going back to smell it over and over. Once it did hit my palate I knew I was in the presence of a great beer. The flavor was very complex and smooth. All aspects of this one just seemed to work in unison to make the others stand out. Really a great beer that I was very happy to have the opportunity to try!

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4.25/5  rDev +1.4%

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5/5  rDev +19.3%

Photo of tom10101
4.25/5  rDev +1.4%

Photo of Jeffo
4.36/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This brew is ranked really highly on the other site, but for some reason, the 96 bottle first batch didn't get onto the site here. Really glad De Molen decided to brew this one again, and to bottle a reasonable amount of it as well. Got this bottle from the De Molen shop in Bodegraven.

From a 18cl bottle into a snifter.
Batch #2. Brewed 10 Oct 2010 and bottled 14/21 Feb 2011.
Bottle 736 of 1560.
OG: 1105
FG: 1027

APPEARANCE: A black pour produces a very small, faint, tan head that vanishes almost immediately. Head barely makes an appearance and is gone. A stringy wisp and ring remain. Jet black body with zero carbonation evident. Ring remains but leaves no lacing down the glass. Thick looking stout, but average at best.

SMELL: A big nose for sure. Travels through the room. Roasted malts, dark bakers chocolate and some faint espresso notes. Barrel is definitely there. Bourbon notes with a good dose of vanilla and some brown sugar. A touch of booze in there as well. Lots of barrel without dominating. Very enticing.

TASTE: Lots of flavor. Roasted and charred malts with a good dose of pure, dark baker's chocolate and sweet caramel. Lots of barrel again, with some bourbon, oak, and a shot of vanilla. A big, bold and lingering aftertaste of barrel, roasted malts, and a touch of alcohol. Bourbon, vanilla, sweet brown sugar and roasted malts linger and linger. Barrel is definitely the front runner, though it doesn't overwhelm the base beer. Very well done.

PALATE: Thick, full body with very low levels of carbonation. Luckily this one is carbonated, as De Molen has had troubles in this department with their higher ABV stuff. Heavy and syrupy on the palate, though not overly creamy as a result. Goes down smooth with a bit of a burn after the swallow and finishes relatively mouth coating. Palate fits the beer very well.

OVERALL: It's obvious why this brew ranks so highly. Definitely one of De Molen's more barrel forward BA stouts, but done extremely well, without dominating the base beer. Still somewhat boozy for top marks, but given a little bit of time, and this will turn into a gem. A bold, flavorful, and superbly crafted barrel aged imperial stout. Worth tracking down for sure.

EDIT: With a huge thanks to Dennoman, Doopie and I were able to try a complete H&V Wild Turkey vertical, including the first batch 96 bottle nip that was brewed in July 2009 and bottled in August 2010. This one was the clear favorite, edging out the 2nd batch and wiping the floor with the 3rd and most recent vintage. The first batch shared many of the same qualities with the 2nd, but was less boozy, more chocolate forward, and had some pronounced toffee and butterscotch flavors as well. Absolutely decadent, and a clear 5 for taste and aroma. Cheers again for this opportunity Dennis. Never dreamed I'd see this.

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Photo of leitmotif
4.75/5  rDev +13.4%

Photo of peensteen
4.24/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to Jeffo for the bottle!

Deep brown, ring of tanh head with some spots of lace. Smell is a mix of big roast and chocolate, bourbon, oak, coffee as well as a bit of bitterness. Taste is chocolate fudge and oak, light vanilla, roast malt and bourbon, finishes a bit bitter with a roasty-chocolate aftertaste. Light-medium carbonation, medium bodied. This was also really good, I liked it better than 666 but less than Misto, still a very good stout and would certainly have this again.

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Photo of baybum
4.05/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4.25/5  rDev +1.4%

Photo of Sean9689
3.74/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Little bottle thanks to Kristina at WLV Liquors!

A - Pours black, bubbles on top, no head, no lace, no cap.

S - Dark fruit, Wild Turkey, char, chocolate, oak. The booze is obviously there, but doesn't take over and actually compliments the rest of the beer. Dark fruits and chocolate pretty much take the rest of the nose.

T - Caramel, maple syrup, burnt sugars, booze, chocolate, light vanilla. The palate doesn't feature the dark fruity sweetness like the nose does, which I much prefer. The booze is decently smooth for 10% and doesn't hurt the beer. The finish is light char, chocolate, and oaked Wild Turkey. A sipper. Develops more char as the beer warms, which is a bit off-putting.

M - Medium, body is perhaps a bit too thin, very light carbonation (if any), creamy rich finish.

O - A nice RIS but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's World Class. The taste and nose are good (not outstanding), but the light carbonation, thin body, and char notes hurt the overall score. That said, I would drink again, no problem at all.

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4.5/5  rDev +7.4%

Photo of unclekeith
4.5/5  rDev +7.4%

Photo of jampics2
4.32/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

180ml bottle into a snifter, courtesy of Paul - thanks for opening this on our stealth cellar trip & thanks for such a great tasting!

The brew looks decent enough in the snifter - it's a dark black color with just a touch of lighter brown and a hint of red around the edges when backlit. The biggest positive thing about the appearance is the color, the biggest negative is the lack of any head whatsoever. Just a few bubbles after the vigerous pour, with a quick submission and no lace. That's OK for a big BA RIS, but I'd still like a sign of life or two.

The smell is awesome. Wild Turkey is evident - this is a unique whisky and is present in it's glory with notes of initial astringency dissipating to uncover nice touches of vanilla and honey. There's a great base beer underneath - this is a De Molen product, remember - and notes of chocolate, char, earth and dark fruit emerge as the beer opens up. Very, very nice job showcasing the barrel!

The taste is equally impressive, with the barrel really showing through over the base beer's sweet malt foundation. There's notes of spicy bourbon courtesy of the Turkey, with more subtle vanilla and oak emerging from time to time. The wonderful Hel & Verdoemenis underneath has notes of chocolate, dark fruit and even a touch of hops. But the star of the show is the whisky, and the base beer is very sweet but never crosses the line. Again, very well done.

The mouthfeel suffers just a bit due to low carbonation and just a touch of syrupiness. But that's OK - it's still better than most of the big BA RIS out there. Medium-plus body with a wonderful booze-kissed finish. Overall, this is really good stuff. Thanks to the host with the most, this was a fun brew to enjoy with good beer peeps! Cheers!!

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3.75/5  rDev -10.5%

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4.25/5  rDev +1.4%

Photo of mtbdonn
4/5  rDev -4.5%

Photo of Mikeluzzjr
3.75/5  rDev -10.5%

Photo of Poupae
4.53/5  rDev +8.1%

Photo of YvesB
4.29/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
4.19 out of 5 based on 102 ratings.
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