Charbonniere | Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Quebec, Canada
dieuduciel.com

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.40%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by BeerAdvocate on 05-03-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
103
Reviews:
62
Avg:
3.75
pDev:
14.13%
 
 
Wants:
17
Gots:
7
For Trade:
1
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Photo of djcreepshow
1/5  rDev -73.3%

Photo of DaveBar
1.48/5  rDev -60.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 1 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 1.5

Purchased at Dapanneur AS in Montreal for $3.00 for a 341ml bottle. Served at 6deg C in a draught glass,

A- Opens well and pours a 1/2" high white head that films out within 2mins. Medium to dark brown colour and filtered clear

S- Smoke.

T- Smoke. The really bad artificial smoke that you get from liquid smoke.

M- Dry

O- Disliked this brew. I tried by best but this one was a drain pour after 3 sips. Will never buy again

Food Pairing

This smoky brew does not get a match due to being a drain pour. If you like smoky brews then try with smoked brisket or something like that

Enjoy

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Photo of MatChar
2.01/5  rDev -46.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 1.25 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Photo of rudzud
2.66/5  rDev -29.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.75 | overall: 2

Split with JLindros, roughly one year old.

A - Poured into a Kate the Great a crystal clear mahogany hue with a thin head that fades to leave light wisps.

S - Aromas of smokey malts, campfire, smoked gouda, light caramel.

T - Taste is similar to the nose, very smokey sweet malts. Not assertive campfire, bit just in your face smoke. Loads of smoked gouda cheese.

M - Mouthfeel is lightly carbonated, that and the smoke makes this really oppressive.

O - Overall this beer was a huge disappointment. The smoke is rather awful with that cheese aspect.

Serving type: bottle

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Photo of jlindros
2.68/5  rDev -28.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.75 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.25

Grabbed in Montreal, spilt with rudzud

Very little head, semi clear cranberry chestnut color.

Nose is loaded with smoke, smoked campfire malt, big time smoked gouda, toasted malts, little acrid, biscuity.

Taste more smoked malt, rind of a smoked gouda, little campfire, smoldering log, acrid burnt smoke, little reddish candy malt with thin feel. Little metallic, reddish candy. Finish bitter cheese rind and smoke, sticky syrupy.

Mouth is med thinner feeling bod, light carb, sticky syrupy.

Overall man have these guys gone down hill. Seems like everything they make these days is terrible.

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Photo of fostachild
2.75/5  rDev -26.7%

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3/5  rDev -20%

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3/5  rDev -20%

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3/5  rDev -20%

Photo of spinrsx
3.04/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

341ml bottle poured into a pint glass

Appearance - medium brown, decent size foamy off white head, can't see much carbonation. A fair amount of lacing.

Smell - well, smoked malts.. caramel, hops. Saw someone else compare this to a camp fire smell - I couldn't agree more.

Taste & Mouth - really smoked tasting.. for some reason its comes through as meaty to me. Almost like a piece of smoked brisket. Also fruitiness, coffee beans, and a slightly bitter hop finish. Also something musty, call me crazy but do I taste blue cheese?

Drink - This is definitely an interesting beer, but not my sort of thing. Points for originality, but lacks drinkability. 1 is more than enough.

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Photo of Hugues77
3.25/5  rDev -13.3%

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3.25/5  rDev -13.3%

Photo of SilentBob2u2
3.28/5  rDev -12.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

7/17/10

My buddy brought this back from Montreal for me and buddies to try. We had never heard of the beer nor the brewery before, it was all in french except "smoked malt beverage", which I think is why he picked it up...

C - deep brown amber, not cloudy at all and crisp for the color.

S - Smoke from a campfire and coffee.

M - should be heavier that it is. It's got a light feel to it, almost crisp. The viscosity of a pale ale with the backside of a heavier cream ale.

T - it taste's of smoke and coffee. My taste buds fight over which flavor they will hang onto in the after-taste. the coffee and smoke don't exactly go well together for the after taste, that's why I say they are fighting over which flavor will linger. However, for a craft brewer to do this is very much a skill, which is commendable.

D - my buddy says he could drink 3, however, I I know I can only handle one. It's not heavy but I think the smoke coffee flavor just isn't my cup of tea so to speak.

I have to give it credit by saying that they tackled this beer really well for what it is. It's damn close to being really good, but falls just a tad short.

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Photo of StephenRich
3.33/5  rDev -11.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Charbonniere is French for "Coal Woman", and while this beer tastes very little like a woman, it is reminiscent of coal. Really what it is, is a smoke beer. Before kilning and indirect heating was used to dry and malt barley grains, they were smoked over direct fires creating a very distinct and smoky beer. Eventually when maltsters mastered indirect heating, brewers were able to use unsmoked malted barley creating a cleaner, more elegant beer capable of taking on a new variety of flavors.

The old smoked ales though do still exist. They are most famous in Bamberg, the venerable smoke beer capital of the world. Dieu Du Ciel's Charbonniere uses smoked malts hailing from Bamberg to recreate a soft smoky flavor in the beer with a rich malt backbone. It has been brewed since 1999 at Dieu Du Ciel's brewpub and fits perfectly with the astonish lineup of beer's they offer.

The Charbonniere comes in 355ml bottles at 5% abv, and as far as I have seen, they are only available in Quebec. I opened it up cool around 8C (45F) and poured it into a tall tulip glass. The pour was big and frothy forming a lush 2 inch tan brown head with streak of bobbles and a pillowy, creamy cap. The beer stood and amber maroon with glimmers of deep red garnet, purple and hints of gold. It was slightly opaque, and very close to black, showing great dark brick browns. Great depth of color and intensity drew me into this beer.

The nose is classic rauchbier with smooth smoky notes of BBQ, smoked sausage, char and firewood. The smoke is not overpowering and lends into some warm malt sweetness getting close to toffee, but more like slightly burnt brown sugar. No hops are noticeable here, but it does smell fresh and quenching. You should never dismiss a rauchbier from being supremely quenching, they can refresh your palate with the best of pale ales!

A nice big gulp of the Charbonniere reveals smooth and silky smoke flavors guided along by light caramel malts, hints of spice and pepper, and a clean very dry hop finish. The beer is elegant and delicate, and not all showy and blunt. The smoke is soft and smooth gliding over your tongue just glancing at wood fires, and then moves into your cheeks showing off smooth and softly rich flavors of BBQ, char and smoked meat. Hints of pepper and spice make their way along the sides of your tongue and tickle the back of your throat.

Malt does play the primary role here and is the spine and nervous system of this beer. It is smooth and lightly sweet with soft biscuit and caramel on the palate, but an overall dry, slightly sweet feeling. Hops show soft herbal bitterness that touches in at the back of the beer and rounds it out nicely. It is not nearly as potent as the majority of rauchbiers that I have had, but does exemplify great flavors in a delicate and quenching soft smoke beer.

A clean and crisp finish makes the Charbonniere a very easy drinking beer and would pair perfectly with anything off the grill, or even a smooth cigar.

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Photo of MeisterBurger
3.43/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a rich mahogany with a healthy, frothy white head that laces nicely.

It smells like my clothes the morning after a night spent sitting around a campfire.

It tastes like a century's old woodland cabin that has been heated by a wood burning stove. Very smokey, like charred driftwood in that it has a very dry, wooden smokey lingering aftertaste. Somewhat reminiscent of maple smoked ham. A nice beer for those who like smokey tastes, but it's lacking a strong malt presence that would take the edge off of the bitterness and smoke, which is most of what I get from this.

Mouthfeel is light, it's well attenuated, but there's a lack of residual sweetness that would take the edge off the bitter smokiness.

Not a bad beer and I won't trash it. I suspect that those who like bitter smokey beers will love this. I'm just not sure I'm one of them.

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Photo of chinchill
3.44/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Shared bottle at RBWG-2015.

This has a rather smoky aroma with an even smokier flavor. There are also some dark fruit notes .

Feel: Nice smooth body.

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Photo of Foudebiere
3.44/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poor from a 341ml bottle.

A: Nice brown beer with almost not head, I didn't have time to taste it.
S: Smoke, smoke, smoke!!!
T: Of course the primary taste is smoke, but it's not overbearing like the smell could let us think. It's a little sweet at the end.
MF: It seems that I have ashes in my mouth, but surprisingly, it's good!

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Photo of Kegatron
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

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3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of Long813
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Dated: 02/11
From: Premier Wine & Spirits, 341ml

A: Opaque dark brown body with one finger of slightly off-white head. Head dissipates quickly into a thin ring and leaves blotchy lacing

S: Burnt wood, smoked meat and hints a caramel. This is weaker on the smoked meats than any other smoked beer I've tried. All the aromas in general don't come off that strong.

T: Caramel and burnt wood and some smoked meat follows. Flavours are also quite weak, but pleasant. Some nice bitterness at that end.

M: Medium-light bodied and lots of carbonation. Water like texture and leaves a distinct wood-like dry finish.

D: This definitely takes a different approach on the style. It's much easier to drink than the other because it's not as strong, but I feel like it's a little to weak. Good beer to try, but nothing else.

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Photo of evil_liver
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of RosieLaRoseToronto
3.5/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of icormier
3.56/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bought at Broue Ha Ha in Gatineau, Qc. Well, it's smoked beer! I find it a little tricky to know what to say about it other than that. Happy to drink the 4 that came in the pack, not sure I'd pick this again over other standard DDC offerings. Could be very interesting with the right food pairings.

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Photo of Rastacouere
3.6/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

One of their most regular beers

Very inspiring light brown/red color. Good bouquet that doesnt quite reveal what you're going to taste, spices, forest. As the commercial description says : "The smoky taste is quite dominant at each new draught". We'd regret the smoky taste for long if it'd ever quit the mouth. and while it's so long-lasting, it remains comfortable and light with slight hints of salmon in the finish. This remains rather retrained for the smoke lover I am and imo not exactly Dieu Du Ciel's best take at the famous Bamberg style

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Photo of laituegonflable
3.6/5  rDev -4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a burnished brown colour with lacklustre beige head. Lace is something else - spectacular, letting me know this coal lady has a great body (what coal lady doesn't?), but head could stick around a bit more. I prefer my coal ladies to have heads. Body is clear with no real bead. Overall decent.

Smell is smoke-tastic. A lot of charred meat, bacon and just good old wood smoke on there. Slight cheesiness to it. Not a lot else, maybe a slight fruity tang, but yeah lots of meaty smoke. Simple but good.

Taste is quite charry. Has a slight spice at the front with mild caramel malt character. Smoke doesn't hit you until the mid-palate but then it's there, woody and meaty, with lots of that charcoaly, ashy, peaty flavour coming through on the back. Really cuts through that glazed meat character to leave a smokey bitterness that is surprisingly refreshing. I think I'm getting to the stage where I've tried enough smoked beers to "get it" and they need to offer me something special. This is a very decent example, well constructed palate.

Mouthfeel is a bit harsh around the edges but nice amount of body. Goes down roughly, but overall makes me feel alright.

Definitely couldn't slam a smoked beer at the best of times. This is okay, but drinkable is not the word that springs to mind.

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3.75 out of 5 based on 103 ratings.
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