Charbonniere
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!

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Style:
Smoke Beer
Ranked #57
ABV:
5.4%
Score:
85
Ranked #25,175
Avg:
3.8 | pDev: 13.68%
Reviews:
65
Ratings:
110
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Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
 
Quebec, Canada
Avail:
Year-round
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SCORE
85
Very Good
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Notes: Inspired by the German Rauchbier – smoked beers from the Bamberg region – Charbonnière is a dark amber beer with a distinctly smokey aroma, obtained by the use of wood-smoked malt during the brewing process. It is sustained by a slightly sweet malt backbone, permitting the smoked malt to express itself freely with every sip.
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Reviews: 65 | Ratings: 110
Photo of papat444
4.05/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Enjoyed last night with my supper, hamburgers from the barbecue & macaroni salad.

Poured from a 341ml. bottle, bottled March 2010 (or maybe Feb. as the notch is ambiguous).

Appearance: Massive head, light tan in color. Opaque brown body that looks dark and inviting.

Smell: I get lots of smoke though not overbearing with traces of hickory and beef jerky. My wife smells smoked gouda which is quite true.

Taste: Good smokiness that isn't overdone. Wisps of wood and more gouda with a solid malt body. Different but good stuff.

Mouthfeel: Really good balance. It could have been overdone for the smoke but instead a great complicity is struck. Average carbonation and a very comfortable body in the palate.

Drinkability: Yes, i'd have another. I liked it enough to go back again for this beer.

Overall: I'm not usually attracted to smoke beer but i found this beer to be really good and would recommend it if you can handle a moderate smoky presence.

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Photo of ZorPrime
3.99/5  rDev +5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A new bottled beer from DDC... I'm so happy.

Dark color beer. It is dark brown with a creamy head on top. As usual with this brewery, the head stick well to the glass. The aroma is smoked!... wow I like this. I get some bacon in there too. No hops. On the taste side, it is smoked again. Everywhere from start to finish. More like a smoked wood than bacon, however. The taste is better than the smell. A bitterness in the end, however it is not strong. One good thing is the taste lingers in the mouth for a good amount of time. We note also the carbonation in the mouth. A good smoked beer.

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Photo of Seanstoppable
3.67/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

First foray into smoked beers.

Pours a reddish brown color with plenty of head. Plenty of lacing left as well.

Nice smoky scent.

Taste is of more smoke, with some minor malt characteristics. Fairly straightforward. Finish is a bit dry, with the smokiness lingering.

Very interesting overall, but I probably wouldn't have more than one in a sitting. Best use would be as an accompaniment for food, such as stew or chili. Better yet, as an additive for making food, such as part of a marinade for the grill, or as part of a stir fry (which I used it in this evening).

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Photo of Yoonisaykul
3.68/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Dirty-white consistant head. Liquid is a very dark reddish amber with lots of bubbles throughout. Looks like heady coke. Lacing is great.

S- Wet wood ashes.

T- Smoke. A little sour. Also tastes like water and smoke so the smell isn't that far off. I wish there was more. I had this at room temperature and didn't find anything special.

M- Thin and carbonated. I guess it works well to ease off the smokiness but it makes it feel a little cheap though it does foam up nicely in mouth.

D- I've had a few smoked beers but never find them too drinkable. I guess this is one of the better ones.

EDIT: Since my review, I've downed a four pack of this and am really starting to enjoy it. I never wanted to buy smoked beers before and I just might be starting a craving for them. This is good beer.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.62/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz glass at the brewpub. I've had a few rauchbiers before, and this purports to be made in the same vein - oh boy.

This beer appears a clear, dark red-brick amber hue, with one skinny finger of surprisingly dense and foamy beige head, which leaves a bit of streaky landform lace around the glass as things slowly subside.

It smells very much of moist smoked wood, the sort just used in smoking salmon and pork, a further campfire astringency, and some generally subdued bready caramel malt. The taste is more meaty, smoky charred woodiness, wet ash, duly roasted semi-sweet grainy caramel malt, a touch of singed dark fruit, and ethereal leafy, weedy hops.

The carbonation is moderate, barely a blip on the frothy front, the body a solid medium weight, a tad oily, and maybe a bit cloying, but without much in the way of that airborne ashy character I might have been expecting. It finishes just a smidge off-dry, as that smoke in the throat, palate, and nasal passages is still rather hard to ignore.

I'm not entirely sure why this isn't classified as a Rauchbier, as the otherwise heady maltiness is quite thoroughly overshadowed by the ingrained meaty smokiness - does it have something to do with protected place names, or some other such nonsense?

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Photo of smcolw
3.84/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a neutral amber with little haze. Nearly no head nor lace.

Smells like a "saicisse" (sausage); yes, there's smoke but it's appealing rather than distracting.

This starts off malt but goes to all smoke quickly. Good body with a relatively low level of carbonation. This is a beer that'll grow on you.

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Photo of rodenbach99
3.87/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

au fût à la brasserie

belle bière cuivrée claire où un col épais et blanc trône, le nez de cette bière fumée est évidemment très fumé, mais très fumé, en bouche c'est la même chose une bonne pale ale, avec des goût de fumé très prononcé. pour amateur de bière fumée !!!

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Photo of oakbluff
3.62/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the brewpub. I wias looking forward to this one. Standard amber colour with good clarity and white head. You can definitely pick up the wisp of smoke in the nose. Just like a recently snuffed out campfire. Taste is more moderate than I thought it would be. The smoke is definitely there, but not in your face or harsh. I don’t pick up much in the hop department, just a mildly smokey, easy driking amber ale. Would have been nice to spend more time there and settle into a couple of these.

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Photo of 3Vandoo
3.83/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Belgian Dark Ale or Raunchbier?


Brownish, reddish beer who is quite limpid abords a great nice foamy head that kept itself long enought.

Smell of of smoked malt, smoked bbq flavours, smoke and woods with a shy hoppy and yeasty finish.

Tastw wise, the smoked flavours hits you but are quite balanced betweem the smokiness, hops and yeasty spicy flavours. Shy BBQ flavours such as hickory. Well balanced

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Photo of Derek
3.85/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

They actually import the smoked malt from Bamberg for its conistency & quality (they did try smoking the malt themselves).

A: Copper-amber, fluffy off-white head, some retention, good lace.

S: Smoke & spice, like a sausage (or rauchebier from Bamberg). :D

T: Bready malt, smoke & spice, underlying caramel, good bitter balance, slight grainyness.

M: Moderate body with a smooth/prickly opposition, moderate carbonation, some residual sugar but has a dry finish.

D: An approachable smoked beer.

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Photo of Goldorak
3.99/5  rDev +5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance: Copper brownish, and relatively translucent. A very appealing stream of frothy bubbles dancing on top.

Smell: Very pleasing woody smoke, not at Schlenkerla levels but enough to satisfy Rauch-heads like me, without alienating those who are a bit sheepish or never been exposed to this style before. Really interesting grainy aspect to it as well, and a tiny bit ashy, but not at an unpalatable degree.

Taste: The smoke factor is spread out very well on the palate. It hits you solidly at first, balances out in the middle with a very solid malt structure and finishes long with hickory traces. They should brew this more often.

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Photo of Rastacouere
3.6/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

One of their most regular beers

Very inspiring light brown/red color. Good bouquet that doesnt quite reveal what you're going to taste, spices, forest. As the commercial description says : "The smoky taste is quite dominant at each new draught". We'd regret the smoky taste for long if it'd ever quit the mouth. and while it's so long-lasting, it remains comfortable and light with slight hints of salmon in the finish. This remains rather retrained for the smoke lover I am and imo not exactly Dieu Du Ciel's best take at the famous Bamberg style

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Photo of the42ndtourist
4.22/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Smoked Red Ale. Charbonniere - loosely, a place that makes charcoal. (I think).

Red with a brown tinge. Garnet is a good description. Head is a couple fingers' worth and drops back to a moderate covering layer. Nose holds smoke, obviously, but to my surprise there's more. The rest of the beer holds its own. There's some hoppiness to the taste, and the smoke is more akin to that of smoked sausage. (and indeed, that's what I was eating while drinking this - a smoked deer sausage)

A very tasty and quaffable smoked. Kudos to Dieu du Ciel for daring to make a smoked beer where the smoke is restrained. Don't get me wrong, I love my Smoked Porter and my Aecht Schlenkerla - it's just refreshing to find something different.

edit: had a pint at the brewpub. everything I said last year stands. This is a great beer. For the record - I've had rauchbier in Bamberg that wasn't as smoky or half as tasty as this. ('twas the Spezial).

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Photo of Popsinc
3.87/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Ale Rousse Fumee, or, Smoked Brown Ale (in english i believe).

Unlike many of the smoked beers i have tried in the past, this particular offering was not a stout or porter. It was a brown ale.

The pour was a nice amber colour with a very small white head. The malt was roasted over beachwood prior to brewing and this is obvious in the smokey & woody nose.

The smoked malt was also prominent in the taste but not overpowering. Possibly a hint of smoked ham as well and i mean that in a nice way. This beer was not overpowering in its smokey, maltiness but rather it was nicely balanced and offered a good smoked beer in a lighter, easier drinking fashion. A nice woodiness in the finish.

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Photo of Andy
4.42/5  rDev +16.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A rare smoked beer in Canada. Smoke and toasted hints in aroma from a very light colored beer (as far as most smoked beers go). Smoke flavors are balanced by a pleasant malt sweetness. The smoke flavor is not overwhelming.

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Charbonniere from Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Beer rating: 85 out of 100 with 110 ratings