Charbonniere | Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Quebec, Canada
dieuduciel.com

Style: Smoked Beer

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 5.40%

Availability: Year-round

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by BeerAdvocate on 05-03-2002

BEER STATS
Ratings:
103
Reviews:
62
Avg:
3.75
pDev:
14.13%
 
 
Wants:
17
Gots:
7
For Trade:
1
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Photo of Rugg3r
3.6/5  rDev -4%

Photo of biboergosum
3.62/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz glass at the brewpub. I've had a few rauchbiers before, and this purports to be made in the same vein - oh boy.

This beer appears a clear, dark red-brick amber hue, with one skinny finger of surprisingly dense and foamy beige head, which leaves a bit of streaky landform lace around the glass as things slowly subside.

It smells very much of moist smoked wood, the sort just used in smoking salmon and pork, a further campfire astringency, and some generally subdued bready caramel malt. The taste is more meaty, smoky charred woodiness, wet ash, duly roasted semi-sweet grainy caramel malt, a touch of singed dark fruit, and ethereal leafy, weedy hops.

The carbonation is moderate, barely a blip on the frothy front, the body a solid medium weight, a tad oily, and maybe a bit cloying, but without much in the way of that airborne ashy character I might have been expecting. It finishes just a smidge off-dry, as that smoke in the throat, palate, and nasal passages is still rather hard to ignore.

I'm not entirely sure why this isn't classified as a Rauchbier, as the otherwise heady maltiness is quite thoroughly overshadowed by the ingrained meaty smokiness - does it have something to do with protected place names, or some other such nonsense?

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Photo of oakbluff
3.62/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On tap at the brewpub. I wias looking forward to this one. Standard amber colour with good clarity and white head. You can definitely pick up the wisp of smoke in the nose. Just like a recently snuffed out campfire. Taste is more moderate than I thought it would be. The smoke is definitely there, but not in your face or harsh. I don’t pick up much in the hop department, just a mildly smokey, easy driking amber ale. Would have been nice to spend more time there and settle into a couple of these.

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Photo of drinklocalbeer1
3.63/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Dark copper, almost maple taffee colour. 1/2" head that lasted a couple minutes. Very distinct rings as the volume went down.
Smell: Smoked malt and caramel
Taste: Smoke and caramel
Feel: Acidity and carbonation cut through the smoke. Quite long and not unpleasant.

Overall; My first smoked beer. I didn't think I would like it, but I did.

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Photo of Rutager
3.64/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Big thank you to SebD for this and all the others in a great recent CANBIF box. Cheers dude!

Appearance. Pours a deep amber with some nice red hues, and a finger of creamy light-khaki head. So far so good!

Smell. Meaty, thick smoke. Almost has a salty fried pork fat thing going on. Just a bit of grainy caramel in behind.

Taste. Nice smoke, not too strong and not meaty like the smell. A bit of light sweet caramel malt and even a bit of herby hops in there ...maybe not, but there's a slight bitterness for sure.

Mouthfeel. Medium body, medium carbonation.

Overall. Nice for the style. The smoke is in check which is always nice and the beer comes through. Thanks again SebD!

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Photo of ADZA
3.65/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark ruby hue which leaves a two finger head that dissapates to leave an outer rim of lacing that also coats the sides of the glass,the smell is smoked ham,roasty malts and a touch of herbal hops,the mouthfeel is light bodied and has tastes of smoked malts,stonefruits,a touch of cherry,caramel and is finished with a spicy dryness and overall this is a nice smoked beer that lets the other flavours shine through but for me i like a little more smoke and in saying that this would be a nice crossover for the person who doesnt like a full smokey SB cheers.

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Photo of leaddog
3.66/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Appearance - Pours a chestnut brown with a finger of bubbly head.

Smell - smoked malts, smoked meat aromas, campfire smoke.

Taste - Dominated by the smoked malts followed by a hint of smoked meat and campfire aromas.

Mouthfeel - Medium bodied with moderate carbonation. Finishes dry with a lingering smokiness.

Overall - A smoked beer that has the elements in place. However, I feel they weren't used to their full capacity. The aroma I felt was far superior to the taste.

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Photo of Howlader
3.67/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Seanstoppable
3.67/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

First foray into smoked beers.

Pours a reddish brown color with plenty of head. Plenty of lacing left as well.

Nice smoky scent.

Taste is of more smoke, with some minor malt characteristics. Fairly straightforward. Finish is a bit dry, with the smokiness lingering.

Very interesting overall, but I probably wouldn't have more than one in a sitting. Best use would be as an accompaniment for food, such as stew or chili. Better yet, as an additive for making food, such as part of a marinade for the grill, or as part of a stir fry (which I used it in this evening).

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Photo of Yoonisaykul
3.68/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A- Dirty-white consistant head. Liquid is a very dark reddish amber with lots of bubbles throughout. Looks like heady coke. Lacing is great.

S- Wet wood ashes.

T- Smoke. A little sour. Also tastes like water and smoke so the smell isn't that far off. I wish there was more. I had this at room temperature and didn't find anything special.

M- Thin and carbonated. I guess it works well to ease off the smokiness but it makes it feel a little cheap though it does foam up nicely in mouth.

D- I've had a few smoked beers but never find them too drinkable. I guess this is one of the better ones.

EDIT: Since my review, I've downed a four pack of this and am really starting to enjoy it. I never wanted to buy smoked beers before and I just might be starting a craving for them. This is good beer.

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Photo of Ultrarunner100
3.71/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.72/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Pours brown with a large lasting head.
Immediately noticeable in the aroma is smoked ham, campfire and bacon in large quantities. Underneath is some barely noticeable caramel.
The smoky character is nor as overpowering as a flavour, allowing sweet caramel, nutty malt and a soft roasty character to come into play.
Carbonation is a little full on.
Got nothing on Aecht Schlenkerla, but nice stuff none the less.

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Photo of ludachris
3.72/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

The body is sludge brown with murky orange highlights peaking through. Quite hazy with miniscule bits of suspended sediment revealing themselves around the edges of the beer, where the light shines through. A good finger's worth of cream coloured head retains nicely and leaves brush strokes of patchy lace behind.

For a 5.4% beer, this one really packs a punch. Strong notes of pork, hickory, charred wood, sublte toasted malts and light caramel pour out of the glass. The meaty character is quite pronounced and borders being sweet. The caramel notes, subtle as they may be, play very well with the rest of the beer.

The sweetness from the caramel and toasted malts come in more forcefully, nearly eqaulling the beer's meaty base. Pork and hickory make their presence known towards the end with a welcomed smokey edge that asserts its presence for some time after the finish.

The mouthfeel seemed to be lacking most, taking away from what could have been a hefty and satisfying smoked beer by being both thin and watery with an underwhelming amount of carbonation. Easy to drink? Sure, but a fuller body would have made it a real pleasure to do so.

DDC would sit comfortably in my top 8 Canadian breweries but this beer doesn't do much for its position there. It seems to be one of those cases where a great beer was turned into a good beer by lacking in just one aspect; the mouthfeel. If making a fuller body entails increasing the alcohol content, I'd say it's more than worth it. This one's worth a try but can't contend with many other DDC offerings.

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Photo of MasterSki
3.73/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thanks to Sean for this one. Served in a snifter.

A - White foam settles to a thin collar, wisps, and minimal lace. Very dark brown body that's transparent when held to the light. Could use more head volume, but otherwise quite attractive.

S - Smoked malts, honey-drizzled ham, a bit of cocoa. Not particularly complex, but on point for the style.

T - The taste isn't quite as good, as the balancing malt sweetness is a bit overwhelmed by char, smoke, and burnt malt flavors. Gets a tad bitter and astringent after a while, although it's still in the acceptable range for a smoked beer.

M - Zesty carbonation, dry texture with lingering smoke on the palate. Medium body, and predictably no alcohol warmth.

D - A decent smoked beer. I'd drink it again if there were limited options available, but I can think of plenty of smoked beers or Dieu du Ciel offerings I'd much prefer. Appreciate the lower ABV.

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Photo of TheDoctor
3.74/5  rDev -0.3%

SERVICE: Bottle
BOTTLED ON: 09/06/14

A:
Pours a clear ruddy brown with a finger or so of fairly thick looking beige head that never amounts to much. Meh retention; chicken pox spots of lacing. (3.5)

S:
Sweet and woody. Smoky with some think caramel smells and a touch of astringency. (3.75)

T:
Clean and malty. Caramel, wood, hard water, brittle astringency, lingering campfire feel/smell/taste in my sinuses. (3.75)

M:
Thin and coating with a lingering aromatic finish and a light body. (3.5)

O:
Pretty decent beer.
I find smoked beers to be a bit hit-or-miss, but was curious to try this one when it showed up at the store I go to.
It looks alright, but won't win any beauty contests. The aroma is good (Slim Jim's). Oh yeah... It is a pretty drinkable beer and has a nice aromatic quality to the taste. Neither the best nor worst (either from DDC or when looking at smoked beers in general).
Would have it again if offered; if you randomly come across it, go nuts, otherwise don't sweat it. (3.75)

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3.75/5  rDev 0%

Photo of eat
3.75/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Charbonniere is an opaque, dark brown and maintains a good cover of bubbly cream-white head. Decent lacing.

Smells of smoked sausage, campfire, cardboard and dark malt with German hops and dark, fermenting fruit in the background. Fairly similar to Aecht Schlenkerla, though not as powerful or as well balanced. Still, quite nice.

Again, there are similarities to Aecht Schlenkerla in the flavour but it's not pulled off quite as well. Up front there is a good amount of campfire smoke, though it's pretty smoothed out. Other than the decent smokiness, there's not much of interest. Some dark malt which, again, could be increased. Dark, earthy German hops on the finish, along with a good kick of alcohol, which is too present for the ABV, feeling every bit of its 5.4%.

The feel is acceptable but plain. Your standard medium-light body with moderate carbonation. Slightly bitter finish, though not drying. Nothing special.

This could be even more drinkable than Aecht Schlenkerla, in spite of being a lesser beer overall. Especially drinkable as a smoked beer, I could session this if I felt like something smoky. This would actually be great to drink a bunch of while sitting around a fire on a cool summer evening.

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3.75/5  rDev 0%

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3.75/5  rDev 0%

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Photo of Exeter
3.8/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Charbonniere from Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
3.75 out of 5 based on 103 ratings.
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