Penombre | Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Quebec, Canada
dieuduciel.com

Style: American Black Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 6.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
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Added by Sammy on 05-30-2008

BEER STATS
Ratings:
200
Reviews:
63
Avg:
3.83
pDev:
9.14%
 
 
Wants:
4
Gots:
12
For Trade:
1
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Photo of Sammy
3.6/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Explicit cross between an IPA and a porter, enjoyed on-tap at Mondiale 2008. Very fresh. Bubby off-white head on dark scotch-like body, very lacey. Very roasty Above average carbonation that is sharp on the tongue and is mouth-drying. Not as drinkable.

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Photo of acurtis
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of jaydoc
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.59/5  rDev -6.3%

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a partial film on top of the beer. Foamy swaths of lace form around the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, cocoa, citrus zest, and slight char aromas. Taste is much the same with cocoa, earth, and char flavors on the finish. There is a medium amount of hop and roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with lots of char and earth qualities that somewhat dominate over the citrus zest presence I am getting in the smell.

Serving type: bottle.

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Photo of StonedTrippin
3.59/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

no doubt a quality brew, but i have a bit of a hard time calling it a black ipa. it drinks quite a bit more like a brown ale slightly accentuated by bittering hops. i dont get the dark enough bitter barley roast, and i certainly dont get much hop flavoring aside from the bitterness. that said though, i like this beer quite a bit. rich and grain driven, dark chocolate brown in color and frothy, but not much head ever lasts here. its got a chocolate malt nose too, with some darker hints, but it never takes off into full dark ale mode for me. the hops, oh the hops, i wish they added some pine notes to this, it would really pop off. instead, its pure bitterness, not aggressive, but enough to cancel the grain sweetness and leave an odd drying feeling on my palate. flavorful beer and quite tasty, but short of what the style dictates, at least to me. gentle but abundant carbonation and a full body. a good fall and winter ale that i quite enjoy, but an amendment to the hopping here could make this world class. excuse me please for being a gung-ho american hophead always looking for more.

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.25/5  rDev -15.1%

Photo of metter98
3.9/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

A: The beer is black when viewed from afar and the edges are dark reddish brown in color when the glass is held up to a bright light. It poured with a quarter finger high tan head that quickly died down, leaving only a patch of large bubbles in the center of the glass and a collar around the edge.
S: Moderate aromas of roasted malts are present in the nose along with hints of resinous hops.
T: Similar to the smell, the taste is dominated by flavors of roasted malts and has subtle notes of resin from the hops, the latter of which also contribute a light to moderate amount of bitterness. Hints of charred ash and dark chocolate are also perceptible.
M: It feels medium-bodied and a little crisp and dry on the palate with a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This is a pretty nice Black IPA if you like something that focuses on the roasted malts.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.77/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Either it’s the toastiest IPA I've ever had or the hoppiest Porter that I've ever had. Regardless, its results are chocked full of the charm that I've grown to love about Dieu du Ciel.

In grand Porter-like fashion, the beer pours dark "bark" brown and basically opaque. The dense looking ale releases a creamy sandy-tan head that whips right up with a gentle swirl of the glass. Its lacy retention coats the glass with intricate patterns.

As hearty as the beer looks, its aromas are just as prominent: cocoa, heavy toast, light coffee, and roasted nuts continue the Porter theme, but the bright and zesty character of IPA chimes in with grapefruit and pine needles. Underlying burnt sugars seem to support the wood and citrus notes with a cream-like sense.

Its full flavors start with the char of toast, fresh ground coffee, burnt walnuts and cocoa. The light background of dry toffee fades at middle palate and makes way for the charge of hops to come. Starting citrusy with white grapefruit and freshly zested oranges, the toast soon fades and leaves the sticky, resiny taste of pine to dry the taste and usher in throat-gripping bitterness to close its taste.

Firm bodied, the beer has full impressions as the mind thinks IPA to start, but the dry toast character keeps the beer light so the turn toward IPA is a bit more manageable in the middle. Finishing toasty-dry, warm, and resinous- the beer has a linger of mild roast astringency and stemmy hop bite.

It really is a tale of two beers- where intrigue takes the tasted buds back and forth from hop to toast and back again. But I would rather it make up its mind. Either relegate the toasted malts to a color-correction role only, or push the sweetness a bit to balance the hops properly.

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Photo of biboergosum
3.93/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

341ml bottle. Good to see this brewery jumping on the Pacific-NW bandwagon. The name unfortunately sits a little too close to 'Twilight' in its interpretation, though it's hardly the brewery's fault.

This beer pours a very, very dark reddish brown hue, with loose mahogany basal highlights, and two fingers of silkily puffy, foamy beige head, which leaves leaves some attractive tight garden hedge lace around the glass as it gently recedes.

It smells of bittersweet chocolate, cafe au lait, chastened caramel malt, soft grapefruit and orange fruity pith, and a twinge of pine resin. The taste is zingy generic citrus rind, chalky sweet cocoa, cold coffee, bready, lightly roasted caramel malt, and a trailing forest-floor pine essence.

The carbonation is adequate in its support and otherwise predilection for the shadows, the body a solid medium weight, and tacitly smooth, as the hops swirl about in a meekly threatening manner. It finishes off-dry, the chocolate, neutered coffee, and malt keeping the hops well in check.

An enjoyable rendition of this emerging style, with ample elements from the yin and yang underlying influences, all quite ably balanced, so as to not let any one run rampant. Or conversely, allowing any one to shirk their duties. Anyways, as expected, DDC hits another standing triple with this offering - and that's only because I'm still coming around on the idea of smoking, charring, or otherwise marring a perfectly good IPA.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.15/5  rDev -17.8%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

11.5 fl oz brown glass bottle with branded black twist-off cap and appealing label art purchased at a CO bottle shop and served cold into a nonical pint glass at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO.

Reviewed live as a Black IPA per the label. 6.5% ABV. 2014 vintage (First notch at '0', second notch at '9'). Imported by the Shelton Bastards.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: 2 fingers wide. Pale khaki colour. Nicely creamy and thick, with a gorgeous rolling soft consistency and shining complexion. Retention is pretty good - ~8-9 minutes. No lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Deep dark amber-black. Nontransparent. A biteen translucent. No yeast or hop sediment is visible.

Overall, it's an appealing appearance for a Black IPA, but is far from unique or special. The head is well above average.

AROMA: Spruce and evergreen hop notes dominate, with a bit of subsidiary pine and resinous character. A kiss of roasted barley lurks beneath the surface, alongside subdued dark malts. Sticky and sappy.

The key thing I look for in a Black IPA is balance, and so many examples of the style have a fundamental imbalance because the dark malts clash with the hops. That does not appear to be the case here, so I'm hopeful this will be one of the better Black IPAs.

Aromatic intensity is above average. This aroma exhibits no off-notes or overt alcohol, and is suggestive of a deep, multifaceted brew.

TASTE: Hm. It's got a surprisingly brief flavour duration, and the flavour intensity is merely average. It takes me a while to acclimate to the flavour profile as a result.

Once I do, I notice its simplicity and overt plainness. It's not boring or shallow, but there isn't a whole lot going on here, and unfortunately it does suffer from the abovementioned clash of dark malts and hops - though to nowhere near the extent that most beers in the style do.

The predictable dark malt base does harbor some buried roast - which just isn't evocative enough for my tastes, and the hop profile bears notes of spruce and evergreen, with some subsidiary resins and even a hint of candied and bubblegum notes. No pine is here to be found, but it would likely help.

I don't dislike it, but it's rather pedestrian.

TEXTURE: Full-bodied and creamy, with a porter-like smoothness and wetness that suits it well. Thickness is apt. It has a coating mouthfeel and a nice overall presence on the palate.

While this texture complements the taste nicely enough, it doesn't elevate the beer or accentuate its flavours. Generally well-executed, but not custom-tailored specifically to this unique taste.

OVERALL: It's one of the less imbalanced Black IPAs I've come across, but I still think this is the product of a style that's still in its infancy and hasn't quite found its legs. This is easily one of Dieu Du Ciel's weaker offerings, and I wouldn't pick it up a second time. Drinkable, but forgettable, with no stand-out characteristics. Oddly, I find myself noticing now that the best Black IPAs I've had are all brewed outside the U.S. I think this succeeds largely because the hop bitterness is very toned down compared to American attempts at the style; it basically drinks like an overhopped porter.

C+

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.45/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Tap: Poured clear black color ale with a small foamy head with good retention. Aroma of bitter hops with light aromatic notes. Taste is not the most complex with medium bitter notes and a dry caramel malt notes. Body is about average with good carbonation. OK but not really a style a dig and not the most complex beer from this fine brewer.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

Photo of nickfl
4.3/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - the beer has an opaque, black body which is topped by one and a half fingers of off-white foam. The head settles slowly and leaves very nice, thick lace on the glass.

S - toasty malt with some coffee and dark caramel. Spicy hops and a hint of pine in the background.

T - dark malt up front with some burnt caramel. Coffee and pine hop flavors appear in the middle. The beer finishes with more coffee and some charcoal as well as pine and moderate hop bitterness.

D - much darker and more heavily roasted than most other black ipas I've tried, but it works. The malt character is excellent and while the hop aroma is somewhat lacking, it does well in the flavor department with lots of pungent pine that holds its own against the roasty character.

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Photo of jlindros
4.06/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Been trying to get up to visit this brewery for years, but haven't gotten the chance yet. Finally a new beer from them, can't wait to try it Although typically not my fav style, but we'll see how it goes.

Pop... errr... they're still using screw caps wtf! Pours a decent fluffy off-white little creamy almost 1 finger head with some big bubbles as well, fades semi slowly with nice big lacing, the beer is just about pitch black with hint of mahogany light sneaking through the thin parts.

Nose is really interesting, a mix of hops and dark malts as expected but different than normal and much nicer. A lot going on so let's see if I can pinpoint them all. Some mild cocoa, well more like a touch of baker's chocolate, as well as a nice dark caramel, mild fluffy nougat, and hint of a light coffee, a mild robust porter like dark malt. Hops are not as big as I expected thankfully, a hint of citrus starts but that fades quickly to some mild fruity hops, like a generic fruity slightly stone fruit hop, with touch of a grassy floral component.

Taste starts creamy, with lots of malts out front again, starting with a mild roast like malt, not a big heavy roast, just a touch of a roasty quality with some mild smooth coffee as well. That turns to a little dark chocolate, like a crushed cocoa bean mixed with creamy oats. A nice dark robust porter like flavor with some dark malts, into some nice caramel flavors and a little fluffy nougat again. Then hops, again not super crazy on the hops and not a ton of citrus or pine thankfully. A mild earthy component, into some floral grassy notes, a mild fruity touch as well, hints of tropical fruits but not the citrusy tropical fruits or strong ones either. Finish gets fairly bitter, with a bit more earthy hops and they turn spicy and quite bitter as the beer dries but leaves a little lactose like sticky feel, bit more roast with it's own bitter component, mild coffee as well lingering.

Mouth is med to a bit fuller bod, somewhat creamy as well, pretty good carb for a semi creamy porter like beer.

Overall pretty good, I think they treated this more like a hoppy porter than an IPA with roasted malt, which is why I think I like it. The nice dark malts with mild roast and coffee without the acrid burnt flavors, a hint of dark chocolate and some caramel components, as well as a creamy feel, add nice effects. HOps come through and actually seem to blend nicely, they don't go crazy in bitterness or in tropical fruits or citrus that would just clash with the rest of the beer. Again I really think this is more of a hoppy porter than a black IPA.

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Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.92/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

On-tap 9/20/2013 at Julian’s in Providence, RI, served in a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep black color, with a thin light brown head that fades quickly and leaves a thin lace on the glass.

S: The aroma is faint but contains roasted malts, hops and chocolate.

T: The taste starts out bready with a hearty roasted malt character. Then some mildly sweet flavors of chocolate and coffee come in. The hops presence is strong overall but not over-powering creating a good balance. The after-taste is slightly hoppy.

M: Crisp and a little smooth, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is dry and slightly sticky.

O: Tasty, goes down easily, not too filling, decent kick, good representation of style, this is a solid beer to drink for a while.

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Photo of Kegatron
3.8/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap @ The Farmhouse (Burlington, VT) on 2/19/11. Served in a wine glass.

Pours black, with some more ruby hues coming out along the bottom, and is topped with a ¼ finger of creamy mocha colored head. This retains with more of a thin wispy look but does keep some heavier bunching on the edges and actually leaves back a good amount of foamy spotty lacing. Malts take control of the aroma initially, with notes of coffee and chocolate giving this a roasty tanginess in the nostrils. Hops are giving off some green floral accents but mostly seem relegated to the back of the nose.

The taste has a hearty crisp bite to it. Not only of green citric bitterness but also roasted malts, which then proceed to separate themselves and spread crunchy dark roast across the back of the profile. Luckily there is no shortage of sweetness present, as notes of cocoa and toffee help soften and balance some of that sharp bitterness out. This finishes very dry and earthy, with a good bit of lingering pithy bitterness (maybe a tad too much so). The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a firm crispness that really brings all of those hops and roasted malts out to play. I'm picking up no alcohol up here in the body, which keeps this relatively smooth and helps settle the overall presence of this down some.

I found this to be fairly aggressive for the style but it never did quite get too overly so, as the balance and overall ease of the body helped bring things back down just in the nick of time. This is definitely one that I was initially shaky on but it won me over by the bottom of the glass. I'd gladly check this one out again sometime.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.7/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Pours pitch black (very dark brown up towards the light), half finger creamy tan head that slowly reduces to a sticky lace.
Nice roasted malt smell, with rich chocolate, faint cappuccino and lots of burnt sugar. The IPA part shines through, with a big leafy character, pine, minty herbs. Licorice, vanilla and some subtle fig and raisin too.
A robust roastiness hits first in the taste, lots of dark malts and dark chocolate, powdered with ground coffee bean and a bit of cream. Licorice and raisin follow, just for a bit, followed by the big green hops, with pine, ribgrass, maple leaf, bitter grass and spruce. Bitterness gets bigger and bigger as the roast and the hops pile up, creating an ashy, dry charcoal, tobacco, rough bitterness that continues into the aftertaste (leafiness and chocolate too, but way too subtle).
Medium to heavy bodied, oily, medium carbonation.
It felt a bit too roasted for me, and the finish gets even rougher as you drink it, cancelling all the tastiness. More balance would've helped.

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Photo of smcolw
3.76/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Good beige head that leaves a lot of streaming lace. Dark brown color, but light does pass through the center of the glass

Surprisingly mild smell. I do detect the burnt malts and the peppery hop. Perhaps a bit of cream.

The taste starts mild, but slowly shifts to a variety of flavors--the strongest being the burnt malt. Strong toast element. The body is a bit watery but the carbonation is low. So, it seems balanced. I sense alcohol, but given abv and flavor, that seems odd to me.

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3.75/5  rDev -2.1%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.6%

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