Isseki Nicho | Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Quebec, Canada
dieuduciel.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Special collaboration between Dieu du Ciel and Shiga Kougen, a Japanese brewery located in Nagano. Hybrid of an imperial stout and a Belgian saison, its color is dark black. Strong bitterness and roasted malt flavours come in first, and are well balanced by a strong alcohol level. Dry and complex finishing provided by the saison yeast.

Added by bobsy on 10-05-2009

BEER STATS
Ratings:
222
Reviews:
70
Avg:
3.99
pDev:
8.77%
 
 
Wants:
16
Gots:
35
For Trade:
1
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Photo of TheHammer
3.1/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2.75

Appearance: Poured with two fingers of head that boasted very aggressive carbonation, and excessive carbonation on the pour. It retained fairly well, and laced like crazy. The body, is as advertised, black as a stout.

Smell: Smokey burnt malt is the primary smell, but there is a mix of several well balanced undertones. Notes of dark chocolate, orange citrus, black licorice, tea and even a bit of a kelp like note to it. Warming brings out the already ample profile on this one, so more points here.

Taste: Slightly smoked malt up front with a bit of citrus, that loses itself to a mixed bitter note as black licorice, bitter herbal and earthy hops and excessively strong coffee, that occasional gets saved by a sweet hint of citrus and apple, but is frankly drowned out.

Mouthfeel: The carbonation helps out the entire beer, which would be good if I liked the taste, but isn't the case for me. It's a jump off the cliff as far as transistioning as the initial mild aspect just gets annhilated by the middle of the beer. It also has a clingy mixed bitter aftertaste with a hint of metal dryness that builds as the beer goes on.

Drinkability: Well it's very light for most dark beers I've had, and easy on the system, but refreshing it is not. The carbonation settles down well enough but the flavour and mouthfeel, I just can't get over.

Final Thoughts: I applaud the brewer(s) for pioneering a dark saison, but I'm honestly confused as to why and what they were going for here. I expected a light porter, or mild dark with a focus on the fruiter saison notes and smokiness. What I got though was a bitterness that most Black IPA's can't boast, only here the bitterness isn't caused soley by excessive hoping it seems. It's not my cup of tea, but this is more because the flavours didn't appeal to me then it being a lack of craftsmanship. If you are in to Black IPA and want something a bit different, this is probably down your alley.

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Photo of Stevedore
3.8/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Essentially a hoppy black saison with quite a bit of umami and smoke to it. Pours a darker black body, one finger white head, short retention, good lacing character. Smell is light smoke, herbal hop aromas, light milk chocolate, touch of funk, light leather, and a bit of a game-y umami smell to it. Flavour also demonstrates a game-like umami smell on the background of herbal hop aromas and a touch of smoke, there is a bit of milk chocolate and graininess as well. Mouthfeel is medium lighter bodied, good carbonation, with a distinct soy-umami flavour on the finish.

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Photo of yasky
3.83/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Samallison
4.27/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Shadman
3.59/5  rDev -10%
look: 4.25 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

a crazy combination in my opinion but then again I'm not a brewer so..

surprise it looks like a stout..great head retentention though

smells like a stout,

honestly, for my semi-refined palate, I found it difficult to pick out much Saisson out of the Imperial Stout here,,

Smooth, given the ABV

An interesting but ( IMO ) a wasted effort

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Photo of dabeerbuddha
3.92/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

On tap. Poured into a tulip.
Pours jet black with tan head that fades and results in nice lacing.
Sweet aroma of cherries, chocolate and malt. Taste is mild coffee, dark cherries, charred malts and spices. Hides it's ABV well. Light body. Relatively dry finish. Overall a fun beer to drink.

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Photo of dar482
3.69/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Poljazz22
3.88/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

2016-09-07 $can 3.50 11.5 oz poured into a belgian tulip glass at about 16 deg C
Totally opaque black. Very little head and the smallest ring of foam ever.
Belgian yeast and season ale.
A mix of season and stout. Lots of belgian spiciness with added roasted malt. A phenomenal amount of various flavors fight it out inside my mouth. Lots of spice, mint with a faint sugar final. Licorice and apples.
The carbonation is very champagne like. And the 95.% abv is totally hidden till you've swallowed.
An unusual ale. I bought a 4 pack and will wait for it to age to drink the rest.
This beer followed a bottle of grande noirceur (a really good IS from the same brewers ) so perhaps not the best of circumstances. And I admit I am a newbie with season ales. Still worth a try.

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Photo of OnryAndMean
3.63/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Photo of M_chav
3.45/5  rDev -13.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Photo of mademers
4.33/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of SmithyAlan
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Walbert_Neto
3.83/5  rDev -4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.75/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown color with mocha head. Aroma has dark malts, chocolate, brown sugar, dark fruits and some spices. Taste starts with some liquorice, chocolate, roasted malt, quite bitter, especially on the finish and lingering very long on the aftertaste with roasted chocolate malt. Body is quite light with a good amount of carbonation. Overall it's an interesting spicy beer with a very well hidden ABV but a bit unbalanced for my taste.

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Photo of TheBierdimpfe
3.88/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Opaque black color with lots of glass clinging activity. Frothy and creamy brown 3 finger head, lasting around 15-20 minutes, with a bit of lacing. Flavors of dark grains, dark fruits like prunes, cocoa, coffee, belgian yeast, nuts, black liquorice, and herbal spices. Molassy sugars with a balanced bitter earthy and leathery feel. Creamy full body with crispy carbonation. Strong finish, a little dry and vinous that ends quite fast , lingering roasted malts, earthy spices, cappuccino, dark fruity yeast, and notes oak and walnuts. An imperial stout with saison elements, but I wouldn't call this a Saison. Low freshness from a strong alcoholic feel and slightly metallic...would serve this as an appetizer. A little too strong but still pleasant and very warming. Nice flavors, lots of them, making a complex brew. Overall very good quality craft.

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Photo of stortore
4.23/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

11.5 ounce bottle into a tulip glass

Pours near black and opaque, with a thick one and a half inch darker head, lots of foamy lacing. A good start. Smell is roasted malt, yeast. black pepper, a little straw and chocolate, light hops, a general spiciness- maybe some cloves? Taste also leads with the malt- not as roasted, yeast, some chocolate, some biscuit or bread, some caramel and raisins. Light hop bitterness. Smooth, creamy, dry, solid body, well carbonated.

Damn, I like this one. More like a stout, but the Belgian aspects are close to even. Definitely get the saison here, as well. It's not quite unique, but it is different, complex and extremely well executed. Give this one a try, it's well worth a purchase.

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Photo of Fabianno
4.02/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of -chii-
3/5  rDev -24.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Photo of NickThePyro
4/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.24/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of gonzo000
4.09/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of smcolw
4.14/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Deep dark brown where no light through. Some streaks for lace from the modest beige head.

The smell is more stout than saison. Chalky and chocolatey smell. I also get a bit of black cherries and currants.

The taste is as I expected from the smell. I don't get much sourness at all, except briefly in the swallow. Very little burnt elements and even the chocolate is semisweet. The mouthfeel is middle of the road all around. Unsweetened cocoa is the aftertaste.

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Photo of alucard
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of DaveBar
4.15/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Purchased at Dapanneur AS in Montreal for $3.50 for a 341ml bottle. Served at 6deg C in a draught glass.

A- Opens well and pours a 1" high brown head that lasted nearly 5mins before film out. Very dark almost black colour to it. Can't tell if it's filtered or not

S- Lots of chocolate and roasted malt. Just a wonderful scent

T- Chocolate and roasted malt. Very hoppy at the end when you let the chocolate and such come out. Rather complex and enjoyable.

M- Dry and tart

O- Very good brew. Glad I tried one and will buy again if I see it. Nice break from the every day and rather complex blend of ingredients. I like this brew

Food Pairing

This wonderful little brew went well with......... Brazed lamb shank on a bed of creamy potato infused with garlic and thyme.

Enjoy

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Photo of Chico1985
4.06/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

341ml bottled on 9-10-15. Label also lists aging potential as: yes. So there.

A - Pour to a tulip is just about black, big ol tan head forms. Eventually it drops to about a half-finger and retains as such, nice retention and lacing.

S - A pretty striking blend of stout+saison that leans a bit more in the way of stout. Definitely potent chocolate and roast, coffee, some dark fruit and licorice, a grape/spicy yeast/straw feel. Definitely a bit peppery with some warmth.

T - Grape, saison yeast, licorice and clove+pepper spice are more amped up here, more obvious saison elements coming through but still quite the roasty toasty cocoa backbone.

M - Feel a bit on the hefty side, somewhat chewy with nice highish carbonation, a bit boozy. Finishes quite dry with a lil spicy kick. Somewhat easy-drinking all things considered but it's a bit of a beast for sure.

O - Usually a bit wary when it comes to the whole dark saison thing, but this is quite a shining example. Great flavors coming from both imperial stout and saison, pretty complex, love the spiciness and licorice vibe going on for xtra fun.

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