Isseki Nicho | Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!

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BA SCORE
80.2%
Liked This Beer
3.95 w/ 227 ratings
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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Quebec, Canada
dieuduciel.com

Style: Saison / Farmhouse Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Special collaboration between Dieu du Ciel and Shiga Kougen, a Japanese brewery located in Nagano. Hybrid of an imperial stout and a Belgian saison, its color is dark black. Strong bitterness and roasted malt flavours come in first, and are well balanced by a strong alcohol level. Dry and complex finishing provided by the saison yeast.

Added by bobsy on 10-05-2009

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#5,860
Reviews:
72
Ratings:
227
Liked:
182
Avg:
3.95/5
pDev:
8.61%
Alströms:
0
 
 
Wants:
16
Gots:
36
Trade:
1
User Ratings & Reviews
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Ratings: 227 |  Reviews: 72
Photo of Sammy
3.78/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Cask remaining two days after DDC night, at Cafe Volo. Cross style one-off callaboration. Black colour, with significant bubbly cask head. Aroma of pepper,malt, roast, and spicey yeast. Above average mouthfeel, particularly for a cask. Some hops, yeast in taste, some astringency on the tongue, roasted barley, some brown rice. A sipper.A unique Belgian stout imperial porter saison.
Had it again at Mondiale 2010 and it was a middling saison and RIS. Noticed dark chocolate, 3/8" bubbly head and above average mouthfeel.

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Photo of acurtis
3.5/5  rDev -11.4%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
3.81/5  rDev -3.5%

Pours an opaque black with a foamy dark khaki head that settles to a film on top of the beer. A foamy lattice of lace coats the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark roasted malt, earth, chalk, spice, and char aromas. Taste is much the same with dark roasted malt, cocoa, char, and yeast flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of roast bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a good level of carbonation with a crisp mouthfeel. Overall, this is a pretty good beer with more imperial stout than saison qualities in my opinion.

Serving type: bottle.

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Photo of GRG1313
3.73/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Photo of spycow
3.96/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of nmann08
3.75/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.5/5  rDev -11.4%

Photo of metter98
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On-tap at Mugs Alehouse, Brooklyn, NY

A: The beer is essentially jet black in color; faint hints of reddish brown are visible near the edges of the glass. It poured with a quarter finger high dark tan head that died down, leaving a large patch of bubbles in the center of the glass, a collar around the edge and bits of lacing down the sides,
S: Moderate aromas of dark roasted malts are present in the nose along with notes of yeast.
T: The taste is similar to the smell but seems more like a saison with more spices towards the finish. Noted of licorice are also apparent. No alcohol is detectable.
M: It feels medium-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation.
O: This beer is really interesting as it has some properties of a Russian Imperial Stout having used its grain bill. It is extremely easy to drink considering its strength.

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Photo of BEERchitect
3.99/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Whenever I hear a type of beer that's dubbed "black" anything that wasn't originally a dark beer (Black IPA, Black Saison...) I have become accustomed to it becoming a Porter with the base beer tendencies. But with the quality I've come to expect from Dieu Du Ciel, I'm expecting different from Isseki Nicho.

And dark brown to its core, the ale pours with a head porter character. Its body is a shade off of black but is opaque due to its shaddowy hues. A creamy ivory head billows to the top of the tulip in true farmhouse fashion. Its long retention and well-defined concentric rings sing praises of well-constructed Saison.

Its nose is surprisingly perfumy and floral. A waft of potpourri washes over the nose with a backbone of honey, orchard fruit and spice. Black peppercorn and a faint scent of charred toast bring a balance to the malt and fruit. Coming up to temperature, the ale continues to reveal mild coffee and walnut notes.

Its malty-dry taste is of cream, baking bread, toasted grain and with supple buckwheat honey. As the sweeter side trails, its fruity and spicy center emerges. Again, with apple, pear, orange and a tinge of tart berries; then a more spicy side balances with cardamom, clove, coriander, peppercorn, dandelion, and flower pedals. As the ale finishes, its timid coffee, char and cocoa note are a bit more pronounced.

Its body is highly effervescent with fine bubbles that give a creamier, rather than zesty impression. Yet, the beer sheds its medium weight late and prefers a dry malt texture that highlights its spicy alcohol and peppery bite. Its dry toast character further elevates the ale's dryness before echoes of that floral bouquet linger in aftertaste.

I'm impressed that the ale shows so much darkness and dryness from roasted malt, but doesn't contribute any porter or stout-like char. I'm also impressed that the ale can retain such dryness as its resists becoming a sweet beer.

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Photo of biboergosum
4.09/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

341ml bottle, my thanks to Mike from Artisan Ales (hoser around these parts) for the sample. I very much like the 'kill two birds with one stone' cross-cultural aphorism explanation on the label.

This beer pours a slight caramel tinted black, with no discernible edges, and three healthy fingers of puffy, tight, but thinly foamy beige head, which leaves some sparse gull-wing lace around the glass as it slowly and evenly abates. A whole new kind of saison awaits me here, I'm guessing.

It smells of bittersweet black fruit - the usual suspect plums and prunes, mostly - mildly roasted, and slightly smoked grainy malt, gritty coffee grounds, sharply metallic spices, mint and anise, predominantly, swamped saison-friendly yeast, and a hint of warming alcohol. The taste is roasted bready malt, caramel-heavy coffee, tart dark fruit, dry Belgian yeast set afloat, a dose of baker's chocolate, sassy grapefruit and leafy hops, and some dampened, muddled earthy spices. The big ABV is sneakily obfuscated in the morass.

The bubbles are well active, and quite frothy, the body a sturdy medium weight, smooth amongst a slight grittiness, and actually a tad creamy. It finishes off-dry, the caramel/coffee/cocoa backbone hard to write off, even if the spicy, mildly yeasty and more to the point bitter hoppiness seems to have found its strong second wind.

Well, 'Imperial' and 'Dark' tend to have a specific effect on any base beer - in that they get very stout-like, with only tacit references to the bottom in the affair. Here, the dry yeast and subtle fruitiness gets lost in the maw of the beast, as it were. Not a bad thing, I suppose, but it's quite hard to not stifle a laugh now, looking at the classification, even more so than for some of the headier American Black Ales out there. Tasty, sure, but don't go looking for the pastoral French countryside in this one.

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Photo of WillieThreebiers
4.11/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.8/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle: Poured a large dark black color ale with a large deep brown color head with good detention and some pretty good lacing. Aroma of roasted malt notes is quite dominant with some light tart notes and some green citrusy hoppy notes also easily detectable. Taste is also a mix between some huge roasted malt notes with a serious hoppy profile with some citrus notes. Chocolate and light dry coffee notes are also detectable as well as light tart/lemony notes in the aftertaste. Body is full with creamy texture with great carbonation and no alcohol was perceptible. Interesting combination of flavour and totally not what I was expecting but very good nonetheless.

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Photo of superspak
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

11.5 ounce bottle into tulip glass, bottled on 9/10/2015. Pours pitch black color with a 2-3 finger fairly dense and fluffy tan head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice dense foamy lacing clings around the glass, with a good amount of streaming carbonation retaining the head. Aromas of big raisin, fig, blackberry, date, pear, apple, apricot, orange zest, chocolate, cocoa, coffee, peppercorn, clove, licorice, toasted dark bread, char, herbal, and yeast/roasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with great balance and complexity of fruity/spicy yeast, roast/bready malt, and citrus/earthy hop notes; with great strength. Taste of big raisin, fig, blackberry, date, pear, apple, apricot, orange zest, chocolate, cocoa, coffee, peppercorn, clove, licorice, toasted dark bread, char, herbal, and yeast/roasted earthiness. Good amount of roast/char bitterness and peppery yeast spiciness on the finish; with lingering notes of dark fruit, pear, apple, apricot, orange zest, peppercorn, clove, licorice, chocolate, cocoa, coffee, toasted dark bread, char, and yeast/roasted earthiness on the finish for a good bit. Damn nice complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast, roast/bready malt, and citrus/earthy hop flavors; with a nice malt/bitter/spiciness balance and zero astringent flavors after the finish. Good amount of dryness from hop/roasted bitterness as well. Medium-high carbonation and medium-full bodied; with a very smooth, moderately creamy/bready, and sticky/chalky balanced mouthfeel that is nice. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warmth lingering after the finish. Overall this is an excellent imperial dark saison style! All around great complexity, robustness, and balance of fruity/spicy yeast, roast/bready malt, and citrus/earthy hop flavors; and very smooth and crisp to drink for the big ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

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Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev +1.3%

Photo of Kurmaraja
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%

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3.75/5  rDev -5.1%

Photo of jlindros
3.28/5  rDev -17%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

picked up in Montreal, split with rudzud

Big oversized fluffy thick head fades slowly with tons of lacing, super dark just about pitch black beer.

Nose mild roast and dark caramel, toasty wheat, fruity esters that don't blend nicely, little orange zest, apple thing and perfumey phenols, choc malt note.

Taste creamy malts, little choc, roasty dark caramel, burnt roast and smoke like, bitter roast, peppery phenols and perfumey chemical notes, bitter spicy hops that don't blend at all, citrus rind, yeasty over attenuated weird, bitter, etc. Finish sticky dry phenols orange cleaner, bitter earthy hops.

Mouth is way over carbonated, med bod, little syrupy sticky.

Overall this was a mess, nothing went together well, too many different flavors messing with each other and nothing came through nicely without being effected by something else.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4/5  rDev +1.3%

Photo of nickfl
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A - a very dark brown body, topped bya small head of medium tan foam. The head settles fairly quickly but leaves nice, thick lace on the glass.

S - dark caramel and some molasses with a hint of green hops in the background.

T - brown sugar and toffee up front. Some dark caramel and molasses notes come out in the middle. The beer finishes with cinnamon, clove, and smoky chocolate as well as a lingering licorice note.

M - medium-thick body, moderate carbonation, and a slightly sweet finish.

D - very complex, with lots of dark sugar and some spicy yeast character in the finish. It could be a bit dryer, but at this strength, done residual sweetness is forgivable even in a saison.

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Photo of dcmchew
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Rifugium
3.5/5  rDev -11.4%

Photo of Ciocanelu
3.75/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Dark brown color with mocha head. Aroma has dark malts, chocolate, brown sugar, dark fruits and some spices. Taste starts with some liquorice, chocolate, roasted malt, quite bitter, especially on the finish and lingering very long on the aftertaste with roasted chocolate malt. Body is quite light with a good amount of carbonation. Overall it's an interesting spicy beer with a very well hidden ABV but a bit unbalanced for my taste.

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4.25/5  rDev +7.6%

Photo of smcolw
4.14/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Deep dark brown where no light through. Some streaks for lace from the modest beige head.

The smell is more stout than saison. Chalky and chocolatey smell. I also get a bit of black cherries and currants.

The taste is as I expected from the smell. I don't get much sourness at all, except briefly in the swallow. Very little burnt elements and even the chocolate is semisweet. The mouthfeel is middle of the road all around. Unsweetened cocoa is the aftertaste.

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Photo of paulish
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

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Isseki Nicho from Brasserie Dieu du Ciel!
Beer rating: 80.2% out of 100 with 227 ratings
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