Dantalion Dark Wild Ale | Upland Brewing Company

Dantalion Dark Wild AleDantalion Dark Wild Ale
BA SCORE
3.98/5
296 Ratings
Dantalion Dark Wild AleDantalion Dark Wild Ale
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Upland Brewing Company
Indiana, United States
uplandbeer.com

Style: American Wild Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.50%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Dark Wild Beer with brettanomyces and lactobacillus aged over 1 year in red wine American white oak barrels.

Added by Thorpe429 on 05-18-2010

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#4,776
Reviews:
78
Ratings:
296
pDev:
9.8%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
103
Gots:
107
Trade:
16
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Ratings: 296 |  Reviews: 78
Photo of yankeepride
2/5  rDev -49.7%

Photo of Arbitrator
2.38/5  rDev -40.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

Chilled bottle into a glass. Thanks Dabe.

A: Pours a dark mahogany body with a finger or so of light tan head. The bottle is a slow gusher out of the glass, and even a moderate pour produces fluffy carbonation that collapses in clumps. Somewhat nice, but the uncontrolled carbonation is a drawback.

S: A good nose. It has a light bretty presence with a moderate floral aroma. Grapes and oak come out nicely. It's nothing mindblowing, but it's reasonably decent.

T: Red wine and oak with a mild tartness. Some floral presence in the finish. It's just... lacking in flavor. I was surprised, because this was the first beer of the night, and my palate was fresh. I simply couldn't pick up a lot beyond that. Not much bacterial character; it's mildly lactic, but the barnyard of the nose is weak, and the beer is just unsatisfying and bland at best.

M: Medium-bodied, with high carbonation. It's on the drier side for the style, with a mild tannic astringency.

D: Wound up being tossed out in favor of other, better beers on the table. As far as American Wild Ales go, this defines the middle ground pretty well. Maybe bottles vary; someone sampling this for the second time noted that it "wasn't as good as the last time."

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Photo of kscaldef
2.5/5  rDev -37.2%

Photo of ktrillionaire
2.54/5  rDev -36.2%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

Big thanks to emerge077 for the share

A - It pours a deep chestnut-brown, between hazy and opaque, with a persistent wisp of ecru froth. There is some lace collaring deposited as I drain the glass.

S - I am not enthusiastic about this based on the initial impression offered by the nose; it smells unpleasantly sweet and somewhat oaty-chalky. As the brew airs out for a minute, I get some dark cherry and other dark fruity notes, and perhaps some scorched malt or burnt sugar. It also smells somewhat of artificial sweetener.

T - I don't find the taste to be any better than the nose. This is not a terrible beer, but it is nothing great either; it tastes kind of like some experimental homebrew with mixed results. There is a bad base beer and a chalkiness that is pervasive; I have no idea what to attribute this to, but I don't like it. The fruit flavors are pretty nice, offering cherry, fig, dried unsweet papaya and various stone fruit impressions, but unfortunately it is not enough to offset the detractions. And as far as tartness goes, it is moderate; the level of sourness seemingly corresponds to the suggestions of the fruit profile.

M - I find the body to be an aggravating factor in this beer's shortcomings. The thinness and fizziness exacerbate the chalky aspect and mitigate the tart fruit.

D - I am not terribly fond of this. Glad I tried it, thrilled I did not trade for it.

[Review from backlog, July 2010]

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Photo of SpeedwayJim
2.93/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to Claaark (Sean) for this one. Shared with capra12 and schen9303 at an Upland tasting. Poured from a corked and caged bottle (bottled 7/12/10) into a Darkness snifter.

Pours a .5 finger light coffee colored foamy head with low retention. Beer is slight cloudy, dark brown. Stringy and patchy lace with moderate cling. Color is a bit off-putting.

Nose is an odd combination of soap, mint, plastic, and sweet grapes. Not bad, but very strange.

Opens sweet grape, spicy, plastic. Yeasty towards the middle with some Brett funkiness and cane sugar. Some residual sweetness towards the end with just a touch of tart. Not really sour at all and the barrel characteristic is almost entirely missing. A touch too sweet too.

Light to medium bodied with moderate to high carbonation. Prickly and bubbly in the mouth and abrasive doing down. Smooths nicely as it warms though. Messy finish with a clean aftertaste. Good for its style.

A pretty middle-of-the-road beer here. A bit too sweet with near no funk and little to no tartness. I'm not really sure what was trying to be accomplished here but the end result, why not bad, is a bit pedestrian.

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Photo of ygtbsm94
3/5  rDev -24.6%

Photo of VeganUndead
3.21/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of jmarsh123
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours cloudy brown with red hues and a small white head fading to little retention or lacing.

A little bit of a toffee sweetness in the aroma with a little bit of berry. Not overly sour aroma.

More malty sweetness in the flavor along with a little berry/cherry tartness. Not very sour at all especially compared to the fruit lambics and not overly complex.

Medium bodied with ample carbonation. Finishes somewhat dry.

Nothing really bad about this, just sort of unimpressive all around. I remember liking this more when it was fresh so not sure if the bottle fell off or my sour palate improved. Most likely the latter. Not a bad beer, but would prefer Uplands fruit lineup or something more sour in general to this.

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Photo of Raziel313
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of davewlfpckfan29
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

Photo of sbricker
3.25/5  rDev -18.3%

Photo of alpinebryant
3.28/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Summoned on 7/12/10 wow time flies. I thought I only got this two years ago.

A: Pours a clear cherry wood caramel into a wide mouth glass

S: Aromas of sour lacto, wood, bitter spices and brettonmyces. Flemish Sour ale aromas. Reminds me of Monks Café Flemish Sour ale.

T: This starts off super bitter at first, lots of oak, a bittering taste that does definitely have some dandelion like qualities to it. Bitter ornamental salad tastes presumably from spices and dandalions. Light red wine flavors mixing with a bretty oak and lacto. Behind the first few flavors I do not pick up a ton of complexity . The beer is relatively watery without a ton of depth.

M: Light mouthfeel, medium carbonation. Slightly thin for the style in my opinion.

O: Overall not bad, but would not seek out again. After having a number of Uplands wild ales a few years back, I held onto this one and am just getting around to opening it. Not sure it was worth the wait.

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Photo of JAXSON
3.28/5  rDev -17.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Pours dark burgundy, a tad cloudy, with a large head. Nose is big wine barrel, brett, grapes, just a lot of vinous character and wet wood. Flavor is a smack of wet, red wine barrel. Quite sweet, finishes long and drier with a weird herbal kick. I actually enjoy that finish but this is way too much wine barrel for my liking. In that way it's pretty loose and sloppy. Mildly acidic. I have certain pet peeves with beer, one of them is dark sours with sloppy, excessive wine barrel, and this one has it written all over.

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Photo of SocalKicks
3.29/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Photo of dataylor21
3.4/5  rDev -14.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of sweemzander
3.43/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750mL corked and caged bottle poured into a stemmed glass. 07-12-10 bottled date. Thanks to kyle for the bottle!

(A)- Gusher! Probably lost a few ounces in the process. Pours a fairly dark brown color. Produced a nice cap of tan froth. Some lace.

(S)- An acidic, almost floral funk. Bits of a dry oakiness.

(T)- Pretty much just like the smell. A sour, floral oaky funk with a dry finish.

(M)- A crisp carbonation level. A decent balance of oak funk and sour.

(D)- A decent wild. I can see this getting much better overtime. Pretty straightforward currently in an oaky sour funk sense, but pretty decent nontheless.

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Photo of dheldman
3.43/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of vfgccp
3.45/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of mendvicdog
3.48/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.5

Photo of jbwimer
3.48/5  rDev -12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Photo of kojevergas
3.49/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

2014 vintage 750ml brown glass cork 'n' cage bottle served into a tulip. "Summoned on 12/16/14."

HEAD: ~1.5 inches wide. Pale khaki colour head. Average thickness, consistency, and creaminess. Retention is quite good - ~7-9 minutes.

BODY: Opaque dark black. No yeast is visible within.

Doesn't look like your typical run of the mill wild ale. I'm optimistic.

AROMA: Licorice, cream, dark malts, hint of dark fruit, dark cherry, red wine, some lactobacillus-induced sourness, and hints of neutral oak wood.

Aromatic intensity is average. This aroma promises a beer that delivers on its premise, combining dark malts and bacterial notes - but to what effect?

TASTE: The dark malt backbone never provides too much sweetness, and allows the bacterial sourness to shine. Lactobacillus, lactic acid, a hint of brettanomyces yeast. Cream, a hint of anise, backgrounded neutral oak. The red wine barrel goes very well with the base beer, complementing the bacteria nicely whilst also playing to the dark malt core.

Sourness is mild - maybe a 4/10 in terms of intensity. I find no brettanomyces-induced funkiness. Some other bacteria (e.g. pedio) would help out here, as would lambicus yeast(s).

It's missing the elements that lend a sour notable intricacy...there's no wild flora, straw/hay, bacterial intangibles, et al.

Well put together, with good balance. Well-built, with a cohesive flavour profile that emphasizes admittedly vague fruit.

TEXTURE: Medium-bodied, creamy, smooth, wet, and of apt thickness and heft on the palate. Well-carbonated. This texture complements the taste well, but doesn't elevate the beer as whole. Has a slight smackiness to it, but not so much that it puckers. And it has a subtle softness.

OVERALL: Highly drinkable, especially for a sour. The acidity never becomes bothersome, and it isn't palate-stripping. As enjoyable and approachable as it is, it's far from amongst the best in the style, and I've had better from Upland. I'll enjoy finishing the bottle, and would recommend nabbing it if you chance across it - but it isn't worth seeking out.

High B- (3.49) / WORTHY

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Photo of tectactoe
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Photo of HumanParaquat
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

Photo of HollyHops
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of thebigredone
3.5/5  rDev -12.1%

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Dantalion Dark Wild Ale from Upland Brewing Company
Beer rating: 3.98 out of 5 with 296 ratings
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