Breakfast Stout | Founders Brewing Company

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Breakfast StoutBreakfast Stout

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: American Double / Imperial Stout

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 8.30%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Availability: Sep - Dec

Brewed with flaked oats, bitter and sweetened imported chocolates, Sumatra and Kona coffee.

60 IBU

Added by marburg on 07-26-2003

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Photo of chilidog
4.53/5  rDev +0.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Wow!! Breakfast in a bottle. In fact, I made it a point to try these ( as a four pk., one at a time.) in the morning as a breakfast beer. The beer pours a black as black can get with a small for a stout head. It dose cascade quickly, so its a short show and she's ready to go. Lace is alittle thin and wispy.
The aroma is of expresso like coffee bean and oatmeal. The taste carries the oatmeal in the taste as well as the coffee, bakers chocolate and alcohol.
The beer is very drinkable, thick, and chewy but not intrusive. The mouthfeel is smooth, sweet but with a burnt dryness left behind.
Overall breakfast in a bottle? You Bet!!

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Photo of rajendra82
4.88/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

There are beer trades and then there are gifts from God. The box from BeerAdvocate CRJMellor that included this Founders Breakfast Stout surely will rank among the divine gifts category. The beer came in a 12 oz. brown bottle with an artful label. Pouring this beer turned my pint glass into a black hole through which no light could escape. Even holding the glass an inch from a 100 watt bulb revealed nothing about the interior. The head was dark brown and thick, and left gobs of clumpy brown lace all round the walls of the glass. The aroma was laden with coffee, chocolate, and raisins. The dry and roasty taste was that of burnt oats, coffee, and chocolate. The mouthfeel was thick and chewy, and aftertaste a bit warm. Like eating a coffee cake (without too much sugar), this meal in a glass satisfied nearly all senses, and left me in a state of fulfillment, and in grateful appreciation of the art of brewing. What a fine brew. This proves that a good breakfast is the most important meal of the day.

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Photo of karst
4.95/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

For the coffee lover, this may be the best beer on the planet. Darkest possible brown head, carbon black body. Room full of aromas - freshly roasted coffee beans, imported chocolates and raspberries. Great stout - coffee perfectly balanced by a residual sweetness that smooths out the rough edges and oiliness common to coffee stouts. Swirl the glass and watch the viscosity that you saw but did not believe on pouring from bottle. The flavor continuosly expresses all of the aroma notes along with dark fruit and cream with a freshly milled coffee bean that drys the finish. Truely phenomenal. Come to Papa baby!

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Photo of Bighuge
4.56/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Edit on 10-29-07:

I upped my ratings of appearance, mouthfeel and drinkability. This beer looks great. The head is a dark brown and thick and creamy and long lasting. The mouthfeel is very silky. And the drinkability is really off the charts. It was just like gone before I knew it, and very tasty.

This beer pours with some viscosity. Impressive. It's as black as eternity. Damn black. A nice looking creamy brown head sits on top and recedes to a good sized collar in a minute. The lacing is sparse. The nose is nice. Coffee is the biggest component. Then roasted and burnt malts. Then wood and vanilla. The carbonation is light and the beer feels somewhat creamy in the mouth. Body is medium to medium-full. The coffee tones come through in a big way on the palate as well. There's a nice bitterness attributed to coffee and roasted malts. It lingers nicely. A little burnt character is unveiled and some tobacco juice as well. The alcohol is hidden nicely behind the bold coffee tones. Pretty tasty beverage.

Thanks for the for the Baby Bottle cokes.

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Photo of mntlover
4.73/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours black midnight black no highlights in this baby. Has a nice chocolate head that doesn't last but leaves a good coating of sheet lace.
Aroma is lots of coffee mixed with coco one hell of a moca grande some oats or bread like aroma's underneath the coffee.
Taste if big on coffee flavors but the chocolate helps smooth some of the coffee's bitterness with sweetness. Some lingering liquid smoke flavors mix with a herbal earthy hops. This is what everyone should be having for breakfast. Wow is all I can say, since this is listed as a coffee beer I am going with a 5 if it was just a Impy Stout prbably be a 4.5 but can't imagine a coffee beer getting any better then this.
Mouthfeel is big, full the oats adding to the fullness and adding a touch to the flavor also.
Drinkability is great move over Wheaties this is the breakfast of champions at my house. Many thanks to CRJMellor for this tastey treat.

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Photo of Gueuzedude
4.08/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours an opaque almost completely black color with only a wispy brown head. When roused it forms a frothy deep brown head. The aroma is like smelly a cold sharply acidic burnt cup of espresso, and burnt barley malt husks. The aroma is quite husky, with grassy notes as well as notes of roasted barley. There is actually some nice notes of chocolate and aromatic coffee under all of this burnt huskiness, though I wish that it showed through a bit more.

Wow, the taste is thick on viscous, I should have guessed at the viscosity of this brew seeing as it has oatmeal in it. It is certainly breakfast in a bottle, it is thick and chewy almost approaching syrupy, though it does not compare to the Dark Lords thickness. The taste is full of roasted burnt notes, at first the burnt grain husks, that are in the nose, are evident in the taste as well. Thankfully this soon dies down, and the burnt acrid bitterness of this beer smoothes out a bit. Certainly there are notes of concentrated express roast, roasted barley, and burnt toast, but also underneath are notes of creamy, dark, semi-sweet chocolate, and hints of licorish. As noted, this beer hides the alcohol quite well.

As this beer warms up it becomes much more smooth (though that might just be my palate becoming acclimated to the roasted notes), more creamy almost like a melted dark chocolate milkshake. Interestingly enough the nose retains the sharply acidic roasted grain husk dominance. This is certainly tasty, but I am a little turned off by acrid notes. Thankfully I have another bottle of this to try, because one is certainly not enough.

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Photo of bigbeerdrinka
4.88/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

On Draft at the Extreme Beer Festival (first brew I sampled).

Pours a deep opaque black color with a nice offwhite head. Aromas are a mix of coffees and chocolate with hints of creamy oats and a bit of roast. The flavors to this brew were simply amazing. Initially there was a heavy dosage of expressos and chocolates. This was followed by a nice dosage of oast and creaminess. The finish was roasty and chocolately without a hint of astringecy and a mild bitterness that just rounded things out. The mouthfeel on this brew was out of this world and I could honestly see myself drinking this brew every morning if I had the chance to. To put my feelings about this brew in only two words I would have to say: simply amazing. My highest rated brew and for a good reason. Perfect.

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Photo of abents
4.87/5  rDev +8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Pours a deep dark brown with dark tan head. Smells of roasted coffee and chocolate fill your nose and invite you to taste more. Very coffee up front and continuing throughout the finish. Chocolate sneaks up in the middle and makes the brew smooth and rich. Very heavy mouthfeel with with a thick coating of your mouth after the sip. Very inviting and very smooth. Extremely nice brew, very tasty and big. I gotta get this one again.

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Photo of plaztikjezuz
3.88/5  rDev -14%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Walleye for the bottle (it was really two my boss drank the first from under me).
Pours a rich onyx with a lacy brown head. the coffee aroma came right off as i poured it. goes down pretty easy, i was told it was like an imperial stout, but it doesn't live up to that but ti is very good. It is very rich, has a wounderful thick body, and the after taste of chocolate.
my bottle did have some weird chuncks, my best guess would be some protein, but it looks different than yeast. its chuncky not slurry.
besides the weird sediment, i would buy this, if i ever saw it in a store. i heard founders released 300 cases this year??

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Photo of bnuttz
4.68/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Pours a thick opaque black, now this is what stouts should look like. A small quickly fading tan head is present. The smell is all coffee upfront. Smells somewhat of oatmeal too, like a complete breakfast. This stuff tastes like a nicely flavored coffee drink. mmm. You can tell that they didnt use any folgers in this puppy. Tastes heavily of coffee, with dark chocolate accents, maybe a little bit of toffee in there too. There is also a slight alcohol presence. Hops dont play too much of a role here. Mouthfeel is definitely full, close to perfect for a stout. This stuff is very drinkable, the bitterness of the coffee brings it down a bit in my eyes, merely because I'm not a big coffee person. But hell, I will drink this anyday over any coffee drink. Top notch stuff.

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Photo of assurbanipaul
4.28/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Pours an opaque dark brown-black with a thin brown head. Aroma is sweet malts and scorched sugars, faint coffee and some molasses. Very Imperial stout.

Taste is very strong and bold. Initially coffee, followed by some chocolate, then finishes with malty, stouty elements. Coffee tastes like good, rich breakfast-diner brand (the kind with the white ceramic cups served by a waitress named Flo or Sue Ellen), nothing fancy, just strong and uncut. Chocolate portion rides low, not adding much sweetness, keeps it dry and bitter overall. No trace of alcohol but the bitterness holds me back.

Mouthfeel is very thick and viscous, velvety, almost like a diluted syrup. Doesn't seem to hurt it much, though, as I quaffed it rather quickly. Label declares this a "Double Chocolate Coffee Oatmeal Stout." How's that for a categorizing nightmare? Makes me wonder what my productivity would be like with one of these for breakfast every day. Thanks to trbeer for this wake-up call.

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Photo of mattcrill
4.67/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to cmaruschak for donating this fine beer to me and for making this a fine beer weekend.

Presentation: States that it's a double chocolate coffee oatmeal stout...sign me up!

Appearance: Pours syrup-thick and midnight black. Virtually no head to speak of but the little that was there was tan.

Smell: roasted nuts, some burnt coffee flavor, and definite smoky presence. Cocao notes as it warms. Almost smells like an imperial stout.

Taste: Baker's chocolate, espresso, mild nutty presence throughout. Smokiness is definitely present throughout the beer. A bitter chocolate aftertaste that fades into some sweetness and carmel presence. Very complex.

Mouthfeel: Thick and creamy. I think this is where the oatmeal comes out to play. Warming alcohol numbs the lips just a touch.

Drinkability: One to enjoy and savor. Especially since it's so dang hard to come by!

Notes: This reminds me of the '03-'04 Brooklyn Black Chocolate Stout (my top rated RIS to date). This is definitely one that I would have in my regular rotation if it were readily available.

Mad props go out to cmaruschak for allowing me to partake in this fantastic beer.

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Photo of Dogbrick
4.5/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to cmaruschak for hooking me up. Pours pitch black with a garnet hue around the edges. Thin dark brown head that beat a hasty retreat. Thin and sticky lacing too. The aroma is really roasty with coffee and a bit of chocolate. Full-bodied and creamy, with a smoky flavor that came out of nowhere. Coffee, roasted malt and chocolate flavors are present too. The aftertaste is bitter and lasting, and the smokiness lingers long after. All in all this beer met my expectations but I am not sure that it lives up to all the hype. Still I wouldn’t kick it out of bed in the morning.

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Photo of nomad
4.5/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

After being thoroughly non-plussed with the Devil Dancer, this special brew from Founders was quite a turnaround. Pours out a dark chocolate-black with a voluminous head, as dark as foam gets, reeling in carbonation and staying put through out the session. Surprisingly the lacing was not too good, but I'll just blame that on the oiliness oatmeal can give to a beer.

Smell was chocolate, medium-dark roast coffee, a hint of cream, and a nuttiness somewhere between mascarpone and crushed almonds. Full and alluring and one of the few times I feel like my attempt at description fits the experience - very much chocolate and coffee and all those scents.

Surprisingly smooth! Most coffee stouts and porters show their coffee a little too much, but the flavor comes across here like chocolate-covered espresso beans. Sweet but roasty in a slightly refined way. Nips of toffee show here and there with a requisite roast barley snap, though altogether smooth and pleasing. Mouthfeel is moderate and slightly slick, but not too much so. Very smooth finish, again surprising, as the overall flavor impression is a rising tide that crashes rather quietly (for a stout).

Very solid and bursting with flavor yet balance between all of the big things going on - high gravity, plenty of roast malts, chocolate, coffee, just about everything but the kitchen sink, yet it all integrates well. The most surprising point was the drinkability - its a strong-flavored stout yet it resides, not wrecks, on the palette.

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Photo of jackndan
4.35/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Founders Breakfast Stout: Pours out of a stubby brown bottle, with just the cutest damn kid eating oatmeal on the label. It says it is a “double chocolate coffee oatmeal stout.” 8.3 abv

The pour is magnificent: thick oily body under a thick creamy dark brown head, with massive staying power.

The aroma is thick and rich, I cannot smell the chocolate, but the coffee is very prominent.

Nice taste, thick and chewy. Very heavy roasted malt taste, no doubt this is a complex brew, playing all the notes of a dark, rich stout. Cocoa, coffee, dark chocolate are all-predominant, with just the barest hint of hops to balance out the beer.

Very nice.

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Photo of Skidz
4.97/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

It's 1:00 PM, I just woke up. This is my breakfast.

Pours out a thick, motor-oil black. 1983 Chevy S10, the oil has never been changed, 100,000 miles and running. Sits deep, dark, brown, black, empty. All the colors of the anti-rainbow. Big brown head caps it off, surprised it's not black too. Leaves rings up and down the glass and holds a good thick skim on the surface.

Once the aroma gets into your nose, your eyes widen with the sudden jolt of caffeine laced, rich coffee aroma. Deep, dark and roasty. Creaminess never smelt so good. Big chunky notes of bakers chocolate fill you head with melty sweetness. There is no end.

Tastes equally powerful. Coffee is jammed into every single corner of your mouth, providing a broad spectrum of bitterness. Roasty, nearly burnt flavors leave your tongue feeling black, thirsty for more. Sweetness is the savior of the beer, like having a big spoonfull of cream dropped into your morning cup. Rich and teeth ache. Finishes with a strong, awakening bitterness that tugs at every cell in your mouth, crisp roastedness then replaces every feeling your mouth.

Dripping, gooey, molten chocoate-like, absolutely thick and viscous. You could paint your house with this beer. Carbonation is light and well suited for the overall experience. I like it.

I don't usually like drinking when I wake up, but this beer has changed my opinion on the subject. I also don't like the watery feel of coffee, but love the flavors and aroma, suitable replacement? This is now the #1 reason why I love Founders. I'm going back to bed, wake me when it's time for another.

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Photo of meathookjones
4.47/5  rDev -0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Sampled on 1/09/05 from a 12oz bottle. Pitch black body with a healthy dark brown head sitting on top. Decent scattering of lace was left around the glass as I drank this. Strong roasted coffee in the aroma that really dominates. Along with that is dark chocolate and a slight nuttiness. Maybe a touch of caramel as well but damn that coffee is kicking. Flavor is full of coffee, bittersweet chocolate and a light sweet caramel. Very strong flavors that mixes together quite well. A bit of oatmeal and roastiness are adding to the complexity. A nice lingering roasty coffee is what you get on the finish, mmm. Mouthfeel is thick, smooth going down and creamy. I could have a few of these, if I had a few of these. Great brew that keep me really impressed with Founders and disappointed that it’s not available anywhere near where I live. Thanks to tikkigodxxx for this great brew.

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Photo of francisweizen
4.7/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

what an awesome brew from this new-to-me bre-we-ry:-) Dark opaque black with a nice tan head of foam as well. This one leaves nice lacing as well, impressive. Aromas of chocolate, nuts, coffee, caramel, alcohol, dark fruits, and more. The taste is oaty, nutty, and chocolaty with some other lovely hints of coffee, booze, and more. The mouthfeel is thick, slick, and truly awesome. Drinkability is damn good for a stout of this nature and power as well. What a damn good, flaky oatmeal stout. Lovely, on all accounts. Vicar, can I have some more? VICAR!

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Photo of putnam
4.01/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Opaque crude oil-colored liquid and creamed coffee brown-colored foam.
Intense aromas of various roasted, fermented and re-roasted substances: cocoa, coffee and coffee-liqueur pudding.
On the palate it is very sweet, sugary even, and creamy-textured. The flavors are intense, like essential oils, and suggest brown sugar-sweetened espresso, m&m candy and charred malt. Vegetal notes accompany the roasted ones, reminiscent of steamed nettles and baked bell peppers.
As expected, quite ambitious and, in a sense, perfectly executed. A little too sweet and alcoholic to re-drink very soon. Perhaps this will improve with some age...

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Photo of marburg
4.3/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I originally had this back in July 2003 at the Michigan Beer Fest. I don't know if they've dulled the sheer impact of this or if my palate is simply more adjusted to big, burnt flavors; but either way, I feel this is much better -- more well-rounded and balanced, perhaps -- than that initial tasting.

Black, robust looking brew with a fleeting tan/putty-colored foam. Coffee and crispy, burnt toast provide a logical counterpart to layers of dark and semi-sweet chocolates. Carries through to an inititally thick, chocolatey, almost sweet flavor. That's pushed aside rather rapidly by some burnt malts and some double-pump-chocolate Starbucks concoction. Some hop bitterness emerges as well, pushing its way through the more natural roasted flavors.

Surprisingly smooth, silky even, in the finish for all of its rough edges. They probably could have reduced the hop load just a bit. The roasted bitterness and burnt chocolate flavors tame the sweetness well enough on their own. Then again, maybe not.

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Photo of merlin48
4.82/5  rDev +6.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I'm surprised they get away with the label(as pictured), with a toddler eating his cereal. Bib is optional. Label says this is a double chocolate coffee oatmeal stout. Never doubt Founders at their word. This pours about the thickest, richest looking, opaque stouts I've ever witnessed. Dark and opaque would be appropriate. Small, light brown head is shortlived, but is easily revived with a swirl of the glass. Garnet red hues are noted on the fringe and collar. Nice lacing effect exhibits sheets and patches.
Aroma is exceptional. Fresh roasted Kona coffee beans, from a specialty coffee shop, are first noted. More fun soon follows, with anise, burnt toast, and softer notes of cocoa and oatmeal. Grassy and earthy hops lurk in the background.
Mouthfeel has a velvet feel from rolled oats. Robust and full bodied, with a sharp and bitter feel from the enormous dark roasted malts.
Taste is an incredible blend of dark roasted malts. Lots of different coffee flavors, cocoa, carob, tobacco, and old baseball glove. Grassy and earthy hops are a bit restrained, but add a nice touch. The finish is of day old coffee bitterness.
Very complex and full bodied. Very filling, and much like the liquid food that I think the brewer had in mind. I'm beginning to prefer Founders, over Dogfish Head, when it comes to pushing the boundaries of certain styles. Thanks to mentor for sharing breakfast.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
4.5/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I'm having this bottle with leftovers from dinner, but it is 4:30 am, so that's close enough to call it breakfast, right?(Funny how what began as a common joke, "Oatmeal stout? You should have it for breakfast!" is now coming into it's own as an individual style.)
Enough with the whimsy, time for the beer!

This one is just what I need now, as the sub-zero wind-chill and the weather in general puts that witches teat to shame, and summarily lays waste to the well-digger's bum. I need something warm, rich and this it?

Pours out a thick, impenetrable blackness, solid ebon, with slight ruby highlights at the foot of the glass. Head is mighty, massive, twisting slowly down to a most 1/2 ",burnt-toast brown, like chocolate shavings mingled with coffee grounds.

Aroma is right on for the style and then some! Espresso is featured first, then chocolate, roasty all the way, gritty and earthy, rich and thick...a coffee stout that nears an Imperial. Almost like what happened the last time I mixed Bell's Java Stout with Expedition ...almost.

Velvety feel on the tongue, almost magical the way this warmed-up stout lightly lays over the senses, drifting it's wonder throughout the mouth. Hops up front, rich coffee texture, tangible in the mouthfeel, a little hot and spicy, backed up by prodigious malt. Full-bodied, with a long, cocoa-coffee finish, plays delicately on the tongue, but lingers long.

This is a very satisfying stout, one that meets almost all of my expectations. I have had coffee stouts with bigger coffee flavor, though, and oatmeals that are smoother and more richly rewarding, as well as chocolate stouts that bring that flavor in full force...this is a very accomplished blend of the three sub-styles of stout, it succeeded in it's mission quite well, which is to make me consider having this in my coffee cup every morning, inside of the usual dark roast Columbian!

Damned good!
Another impressive offering from Founders, and another very attractive label, even if it does suggest that a child has been consuming the for for the Grand Rapids Board of Health and Human Services, guys!

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Photo of Rastacouere
4.15/5  rDev -8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Black pour without much head, but what is there is intimidatingly dark brown. Strong roasty aroma. Overwhelming dry coffee flavors (seek this one out if that’s your thing), grainy/oatmeal-ish, cocoa abundance. Rich dark malts components. More of the same on the tongue. Well developped sweet/bitter balance. Roastiness is deep and expressive over a small hints at green oily hops. Smooth going. Very dryish mouthfeel, powdery like the cocoa it includes which make it feel almost chalky. Firm and enjoyable medium to full body. Remarkably good. Among the good stouts available I’d say, I’d even rack this among the imperials, as a smaller and less desserty Péché Mortel.

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Photo of walleye
4.08/5  rDev -9.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

from the bottle. poured a dark brown with garnet around th edges, with a medium sized brown head. aroma roasted malts, coffee, plums, chocolate and a nice sweetness. flavor. coffee, more like coffee beans,dark fruits, brown sugar, raisins, roasted malts, and a smokey, molasses on the back of the tongue. this is a very good beer, I am glad I got my hands on this one. It looks like I was lucky to get to get this 4 pack. went back and got another 4 pack to hold on to for some future use

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Photo of proc
4.58/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This is an excellent beer.

I don't hand the "5's" out in any category very easily, but this one deserves it in the "taste" category.

Pours out to a dark-as-night black in the glass with a decent-sized, light brown head, that reminded me of foaming brown sugar. The aroma is that of roasted malt goodness and licorice. The taste is superb, and in my opinion, perfect. There is a wonderful chocolate presence that is accompanied by anise and pumpernickel bread. This beer finishes very nice with no hint of its 8% ABV.

Excellent. Outstanding even.

A meal in a glass.

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Breakfast Stout from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.51 out of 5 with 17,086 ratings