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Founders Bad Habit Belgian QuadFounders Bad Habit Belgian Quad

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by CRJMellor on 02-22-2004

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Photo of mikesgroove
4.5/5  rDev +23.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

murky orange brown with a large three finger high head of thick gooey and sticky lace that really clung around for a good long while before finlly settling down

The aroma was very bourbonesque with a weird almost off color woodiness to it that was difficult to place. As it warmed some other almost fuity like aromas started to come out with hints of figs, and plums really dominating the profile as it came up to room temperature. Lots of dark fruity flavors were the favorites here and really served to push the envelope a little bit in try to bring out some of the other flavors. There was a nice and very deep underlying earthy flavor that really seemed to ry to bring balance to the whole thing, however this was comletely thrown out one the alcohol flavors decided to get involved and really flex their muscles, and flex they did completly overpwoering the rest of it until it warmed enough to allow the subtle hints of fruity yeast to trounce back to the surface.

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Photo of dgfair
2.68/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

12 oz bottle poured into Chimay goblet.

Pours a very flat hazy cloudy baby poop brown color. Decent amount of floating matter in the glass, and the tiny bubbles around the edge of the glass don't add much appeal.

The smell is very interesting after 6 or so years in the bottle. At first it smells like a cognac with nutty notes and cherry booziness. Then I get whiffs of pure apple cider. There is also a definite cardboard mustiness, but nothing really overtakes the surprising fruity booziness. Lots of apple, cherry, banana, and alcohol ester.

Taste is downright abrasive and not in a good way. Rotten banana, booze, rancid cider, and wet cardboard. Age has not been kind to this one. This is the last bottle from the cellar and that is probably a good thing. I remember this one being boozy when fresh, but I am shocked at how boozy it still is. Booze and off flavors is all that is left here.

The mouth is flat and oily...definitely well past its prime. If Founders decides to make a quad again, I will most certainly try it, but this beer is happily retired.

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Photo of ShadesOfGray
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Got via trade(thanks FlandersNed)...pours a deep cloudy/hazy brown. Unfortunately little to no head...just a thin ring on the surface.

Aroma is strong! Heavy dark, over-ripe fruits...definitely raisins. Complex and boozy scent. Heavy roasted malts and a tad oaky.

Flavor is a little weird...if I may say so. At first, not much at all...just Belgian yeast, roasted malts, and small notes of dark candy...but then a very strong raisin flavor rushes over and over the tongue and down the throat, along with the booze burn. The raisin flavor is a little overwhelming and almost ruins the flavor. It adds a little TOO much complexity.

It's no doubt a sweet flavor and full bodied...not easy to drink. Not the best example of a Belgian Quad, and not my favorite Founders brew by far...but worth trying.

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Photo of brentk56
3.34/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Appearance: Pours an apricot nectar color with burnt orange highlights; the modest amount of foam quickly declines to a ringlet

Smell: Fig, bubblegum and a dollop of toffee

Taste: Figgy, up front, but a souring medicinal element kicks in rather quickly; by mid-palate, however, a caramel sweet tone starts to subsume the other flavors, while adding a fusel alcohol character to the fray; after the swallow, the alcohol and fruit flavors buttress the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with low carbonation

Drinkability: Age has not been particularly kind to this beer; though the complexity is intriguing, it is all over the map and the sum is not equal to the parts

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Photo of drumrboy22
3.79/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from 12oz. bottle into a Westvleteren chalice. Beer was a clear, copper color with a very small, light brown head. Light carbonation and lacing.

Aroma was very sweet. Notes of apple, brown sugar and toffee.

Taste was also very sweet. Dark fruit, candi sugar and a slightly spicy finish.

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Photo of Oxymoron
2.91/5  rDev -20.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Common examples include: procrastination, fidgeting, overspending, nail-biting - Wikipedia. Pours a very clear amber red color with a light brown hue through out. A little light for style but ok. A soft fizzy head that hid to the edge of the glass and not much for lacing.

The nose is sweet, even for a quad. A candy like sugar nose up front with some minor sweet caramel and malty undertones. Not really depth or complexity. Very limited yeast aromas, too clean in a way. Some minor plums and figs notes but subtle. Some minor medicinal and light metallic/coiny notes but light.

The taste is bit more on style but still lacks that distinct Quad taste. The malt is sweet with sugary note and a mild caramel malt taste. Limited overall, I would like to see more depth and body. The esters come out a bit more versus the nose. Some plums and raisins with a light sweet orange flavor. A bit too clean for yeast but only minor off notes. Light plastic/medicinal, no where near the nose. Some minor alcohol, very clean considering the ABV.

The body is moderate to moderate full. Really lacking the depth and complexity that I would like for a quad. Carbonation is light but ok. Some warming from the alcohol, but mostly clean. Overall, easy enough to drink but just needs to take a step further with the malt and yeast temps to add that complexity.

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Photo of BARFLYB
3.38/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

12oz bottle poured into a regular snifter, recieved as an extra. Not sure when this was brewed.

A- Bad Habit pours a dirty tan color out of the bottle while settling to a dark brown/ mahogany color once in the glass. Some debris can be seen also. Up to light a nice deep orange bronze color. Not much head and no lacing.

S- Smell consists of a bunch of dried fruit with apples and a off caramel malt sense. A bunch of alcohol as well. Toffee with syrup. A bit of a candi essense. Some raisin with warming and some plum.

T- Starting off I got a nice apple taste with caramel from the malt following and of course some alcohol, that can't be denied. The toffee came with warming along with even more sweetness with raisins which did not mesh well.

M- This quad was a bit lively once first opened but quickly lost it's feel and became quite flat. I prefer this in very small sips as anything more and your in for sweet alcohol. A step above medium bodied.

D- The flavors don't collide well leaving me scratching my head. I'm glad I tried it but won't miss it. Hopefully founders releases a revamped version later in time, as this bottle may be past it's prime(Not sure the year on this).

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Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.14/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a very opaque and muddy brownish red in color. No head forms at all on the pour. You can immediately pick up some fruity tones upon popping the cap. That's where the positives cease. This tastes like a fruity alco-pop. Very fruity and alcoholic. Like a cheap bottle of Mad Dog 20/20. Medium mouthfeel and a somewhat cloying aspect. I love my boys at Founders, but they severly missed with this one.

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Photo of DrJay
3.97/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

nlmartin hooked me up with this one via BC2. Thanks Nate!
Fairly clear and deep reddish orange with a thin skim of foam that formed a solid collar. Some sticky, spotty lace. Significant alcohol in the aroma, but it was fairly mellow with no fusels. Notes of fruity plum, floral hops, toasty and doughy malt filled things out. Very fruity flavour with some sweet malt, plums, strawberry, and a peppery alcohol finish. Some higher alcohols were present. Medium to full bodied with gentle carbonation, warmth and a bit of stickiness. Drinkability was pretty good. I thought the higher alcohols worked for this one, especially since they didn't seem overly hot or solvent-like.

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Photo of blitheringidiot
4.14/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pours into a tulip with a quickly settled tan head to coating atop a dark tawny hue offering little bubbles rising to the surface.

Deep plum and sugar syrup scent. Tons of sweetness roll off this surface. Pancake and syrup. Dark fruit scent of fig, cherry and red apple dominate the nose.

First swigs: Touch of root beer meets fig. Sassy quad. complexity derived from a liquorice anise flavor. Warm boozy coating as it goes down. Fruit cake flavors flow from this sipper like the cat's meow. Yeasty belgian strand is in there to give this an authentic style bonus. Perhaps a touch too much candi wasadded to almost push this into a Big Tripel direction.

Feel is full bodied quad with a thick tongue coating. Zippy and buttery. A touch of heat on the palate, no doubt from the 9.8% ABV as touted on the label. Something about the feel was a little beat up and rough.

Last swigs: Bonus points for complexity in the drinkability category. Bad habit hangs in there to really get the quad job done.

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Photo of BuckeyeNation
3.05/5  rDev -16.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

"Bad habits are like a comfortable bed: easy to get into, but hard to get out of."


Harvest orange with butter rum colored trim. Unfortunately, the beige crown is small, soft, less than sticky, fizzy and isn't exactly coating the glass with lace. It's difficult to imagine a Belgian-style ale that looks less Belgian. The high ABV may be a foam killer, but I've seen plenty of high-ABV ales that were more attractive than this.

The aroma sketches the faint outlines of the style when bold brushstrokes are called for. Each sniff delivers cherries and berries macerated in Stolichnaya. If the beer is this boozy now, it must have been something else back in the fall of '06. Will it be more competently buried on the palate?

Founders is one of my favorite American craft breweries. I had to get that in because Bad Habit is not a good quadrupel. In fact, it's a car crash of a big ale that, nevertheless, isn't a *total* loss. Where the hell do I start?

A considerable cherry cough syrup sweetness is cut off at the knees by a rubbing alcohol quality that undermines the whole operation. The remainder of the flavor profile includes butter toffee, black cherry, red raspberry and pink bubblegum. Can BHBQ possibly be brewed with nothing other than malt, hops, yeast and water?

It feels stupid to grant an average taste score since Bad Habit is anything but average in the 'run of the mill' sense. With respect to quality, however, the above score is entirely appropriate. I think I'm starting to hallucinate. Are we sure this stuff isn't 14.8%?

The mouthfeel isn't as big or as sticky as anticipated. It starts out that way, then dissolves into lightly viscous and modestly mouthcoating. A few too many fine bubbles don't help the cause.

Founders is not in the habit of brewing less than delicious beer. However, they missed the mark widely with Bad Habit Belgian Quad. They should either go back to the drawing board or should forget this colorful mess entirely and concentrate on brewing the beers that we all know and love. Breakfast Stout, Kentucky Breakfast Stout, Imperial Stout, Red's Rye, Black Rye, Centennial IPA, Devil Dancer... and on and on and on.

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Photo of JohnGalt1
2.68/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

12oz picked up in trades (sorry I don't remember everyone who has sent me one of these, I promise I am keeping better trading notes now.) Poured into my red wine glass and am still listening to Sasha's Involver mix.

Hazy muddy orange pour... waaaay to big of a head. Lacing is good.. but nothing even remotely great.

Bazooka Joe bubblegum, banana and harsh Belgian yeast spicyness dominate the nose.... sugar syrup with lively fruits.. plums... plums... a little bit nutmeg. Alcohol is hot... If it was warm enough, I could set it on fire.

Flavor is candy sweet... Hefeweizen banana and cloves... too much, way too much fruitiness... I normally need a little sweetness to tie together the Quad flavor nuances, but this is nearly off the charts. Mouthfeel is heavy/thick and cloying... I've been sitting on my last bottle of Bad Habit for close to a year now (thinking that time would do it well) ... My notebook reviews show the same disdain... although, this review is not nearly as bad as when I first had it back in January. I wrote, "Bad Habit needs a recipe reformulation and this bottle needs a LOT longer bottle time". That being said, I would really like to score another 4-6 of these and not touch them for 3-4 years.

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Photo of DIM
3.43/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

a: Medium copper in color, slightly hazey. Pour leaves a lovely , frothy white head that lasts and lasts.

s: Alcohol soaked figs or raisins and some brown sugar are the most noticeable, Some sour wheat and cherries appear as it warms.

t: Alcohol and cherries are the dominant flavors here. This is the most flavorful U.S. quad I've had but it's just too much. Some sweet sugary malts are here along with an alcohol burn at the end.

m: The carbonation comes pretty close the genuine Belgian article. It's certainly thick and silky enough for the style.

d: I don't know how old this bottle was but some age might have helped mellow this out. I won't be in a hurry to try this one again.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.97/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a cloudy amber color ale with a small foamy head with minimal retention and some lacing. Aroma of sweet Belgian style malt with some nice notes of toffee. Taste is a nice enough mix between some sweet malt with some toffee and dry fruits characteristics. Body is quite full with some medium carbonation and no alcohol was discernable. Well done overall but lacking some complexities to be on par with the best of the style and maybe a tad too sweet.

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Photo of weeare138
3.57/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to egajdzis for breaking this open...
Appears a hazy, orange toned brown with a small, off white head that fades into a small cap. Spotty lacing is left around the glass. Smell is yeasty, boozy, with notes of peach, nectarines, apricots, caramel, and brown sugar.
Taste echoes the aromas with a standout raisin flavor.
Mouthfeel is medium bodied, fruity, yeasty, boozy, sweet up front with a semi-dry finish.

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Photo of MrBen
4.37/5  rDev +20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Belgian brews can sometimes be real sugar bombs, but I noted that Founders kept the sugar from leaping over the top of the brew. Bad Habit poured a lovely, rust-like color with a fair head. Scent opened up quickly into sweet and mildly spicy and with a bit of alcohol.

Flavor was candy-like and fruity, but the touch of spice I smelled at the pour carried into the flavor profile, somewhat balancing everything out. I also noted a zing from the hops in the background and in the very long finish.

This limited-edition beer is certainly worth a try.

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Photo of brewcrew76
3.55/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A - Hazy orange copper with little head and a ring of lace.

S - Fruity, very sweet and boozy, candy raisins, bubblegum and overripe apples.

T - Bubbleyum bubblegum (sugary), boozy, candy raisins, fruity.

M - Medium but slightly syrupy. Sweet and almost cloying.

D - This one is over 1 yr old and still a boozy sweet bomb. Good but on the sweet side.

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Photo of younger35
3.03/5  rDev -16.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Review #50

Thanks to JohnGalt1 for this brew. Drank from a nonic pint glass since I didn't feel like dirtying my snifter (thing is hard to clean!).

Appearance- Pours a murky reddish brown with heavy carbonation. Lots of yeast swirling around as they are bounced back-and-forth by the carbonation. Forms a very small off-white head that maintains a decent collar for the duration of the beer. Semi spotty lacing slowly traces down the glass while you drink and eventually dissipates to nothing.
Smell- Lots of sweet dark fruits such as cherry, plumb and grapes. Very musty from the yeast and semi bready from the malt. Light alcohol vapors.
Taste- Very sweet upfront. Almost too sweet. Has a malt liquor like quality to me. The alcohol is very prominent. Like the nose, there is still a big fruit punch from this with a almost orangeish like quality to it. There is a cherry like dirtiness to this brew that isn't as horrible as it sounds.
Mouthfeel- Heavy champaign like carbonation with a heavy, malty feel. Lot's of alcohol warming and semi dry finish.
Drinkability- Although this isn't the worst attempt at a Belgium I've had, it wasn't exactly made by a monk. It has some flaws but is not undrinkable by any means. If you're looking to try something different and new in an old style, maybe give this a shot. If you want a terrific quad, find something made by a monk.

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Photo of Beertracker
3.8/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quadruple is best served at cool cellar (40-45°F) temperatures from a tulip or pear shaped stemmed glass or chalice. This bold, flavorful Belgian-style Quadrupel pours up rather meager with a small, barely lacy whitish head that's barely sustanable over a hazy, deep bronzish-tawny brown body. The clarity suffers initially from chill-haze, but becomes very bright as it warms in hand. The enticing aroma is filled with a large intermingling of spicy (cracked pepper, grated lemon-rind/coriander, cinnamon-nutmeg & vanilla) plus fruity (banana schnapps, black currant, cordial cherry-chocolate) notes. There's also plenty of alcoholic warmth and a hint of Slovenian hops underlying the rich, almost cloying-honeyish malt notes.The satisfying flavor starts off very rich & chewy with a sweet candied Melanoidin maltiness that carries all the way to the finish with just the faintest touches of spicy, hop influenced bitterness that eventually overtakes the big time, in your face maltiness that packs a surreptitious alcoholic warmth. Founders Quad is a serious malt monster that could easily create a Bad Habit for any malt lover!

CHEERS! Beertracker

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Photo of cokes
2.73/5  rDev -25%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

It pours to barely translucent honeyed auburn color topped with a quick and short rise of sand.
Fried banana and stewed apple nose, all slathered with drywall, and drowned in some sort of shitty, vinegary, cooking wine.
It begins all in fruit and stays there for, basically, the entire durations. But this is fruity in the way things like Skittles are fruity...that is, sweet and generally reminiscent of some type of fruit you've had at some point in your existence, and it is absolutely impossible to tell exactly what the fuck that little pink one is supposed to be. This is that little pink one.
Let's call it a pomegrantangeloplantainkiwiblackcherry fruit. Good enough, and it sounds marketable. It's more or less concentrated extract here, because it is loud and syrupy sweet, in the realm of "18% Juice / 82% High Fructose corn syrup fruit "cocktails".
All nonsensical digressions aside, it starts and stays with the heavy sweet fruitiness, edged with a rindlike tartness. It's muddled partially with pervasive gauze-pad and dried tea pastiness, which is essentially the Belgian yeast strain and hops rolled into one semi-obnoxious counterflavor. Still, this is more Hawaiian Fruit Punch than St Bernardus. Even the alcohol, which is strong on the swallow, is painted over with the syrupiness. And that's fucking saying something.
The only beer it even sort of brings to mind is North Coast's Old Stock Ale, and that one at least had some degree of balance on it's side. This is more a horrible Barleywine, unbalanced and oversweet, than some sort of interpretation of a Belgian style. Actually, it tastes more like a poorly made daquiri, except it's not frozen.
Heavy, clingy and cloying. The mouthfeel is a mess.
Ultimately, it's not terrible as the sugary fruit hues, artificial as they are at times, have some small degree of likeability, just as Kool Aid and Skittles do. But on the whole (and more importantly, as a BEER), it's well out of whack.

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Photo of BlindPig
2/5  rDev -45.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

A- Thin tan head that fades fast. Cloudy red/brown body.
S- Sweet toffee malts, light fruits, alcohol, some grapes, and a few things I just can't put my finger on.
T- Really sweet tasting toffee. Alcohol comes in strong with some light spices, fruits, grapes, and just this strong bad flavor I can't seem to narrow down. Alcohol warms up back of throat.
M- Medium body with low/medium carbonation.
D- This is just a bad beer. Bad flavors and just a bad blend of flavors.

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Photo of akorsak
3.62/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 12 oz stubby bottle from a Dark Lord day trade with Sephiroth.

A: The ale is a hazy orange-brown mixture, closer to orange at the thinner points on the glass (and where more light sneaks through). The head was small, less than a finger, and sat atop the beer as a small white pool.

S: Aromatically, the nose is quite fruity. Sweet (non-maraschino) cherries, green grapes and hints of cinnamin create a swirling nose that promises a lot flavor-wise.

T: The initial flavors from a sip are rather thin. So thin that I questioned the ale for a brief second. As that first dull flavor passes, the ale opens up to a huge alefruit, grain and alcohol presence. The dry green grapes, dark raisins and sweet cherries create a strong fruity grain presence that could warm the coldest night. Mixed in with the grainy alefruit is a strong, hot alcohol flavor that announces the beer's strength in bold terms. The finish channels some fruit alongside the alcohol.

M: The ale has a strong malty body that projects a dry but sweet alefruit body.

D: This beer has a huge alcohol presence that limits the drinkaiblity. Stick with one and you'll sleep soundly.

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Photo of jaxon53
4.05/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Received this beer from brandoman63, in the brews-n-tunes summer '07 tour.Served at just about cellar temperature in a snifter, from a stubby twelve ounce brown bottle.Poured a deep brownish orange with some ruby highlights. Beer showed up somewhat murky in the glass. About two good fingers of soapy, off-white head rose from the glass. Head had decent retention and left some sticky lace on the glass. Smelled of raisin, plum, cherries, alcohol, and some sweet sugary sweet notes. Hopefully it tastes as good as it smells. Flavors were very fruity. Again, raisin, plum, rum, yeast, candy sugar with a somewhat grainy taste. Also could taste cherries from a can of fruit cocktail. Had a nice full, complex mouthfeel. Left a little bit of an alcohol burn on the back of the tongue. Plenty of carbonation. Very drinkable and enjoyable!

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Photo of orbitalr0x
4.02/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12oz bottle pours a deep red/amber bordering on brown with a small ring of light tan bubbles on top. A bit light for a quad, with plenty of carbonation rising up from the bottom. Aromas of raisins, caramel and brown sugar quickly met by phenolic aromas of bubblegum, banana and a nice yeasty spiciness. Light puffs of alcohol as well.

First sip brings a sweet caramel maltiness upfront with notes of raisin, brown sugar and a bit of cherry in there as well. Flows down with a mix of bubblegum and banana notes. Spicy yeast makes up the finish. Sweet throughout but it never gets too cloying. Minimal alcohol flavor, this is a tasty brew overall.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and smooth which eases drinkability. Good carbonation. Not the best Quad I have sampled but it's a solid take on the style overall. I'll age one of these and see whats happens after lying it down for a bit.

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Photo of Wasatch
4/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to NucularGeorge for this brew.

Poured into a chalice a cloudy light amber color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy off-white head, basically no lacing at all. The nose is malty, yeasty, bready, and grapes. The taste is slightly sweet, tangy, malty, yeasty, grapey. The ABV is pretty pronounced though, slighty dry finish. Medium body. Drinkable, this is a nice quadrupel, recommended.

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Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad from Founders Brewing Company
3.64 out of 5 based on 114 ratings.
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