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Founders Bad Habit Belgian QuadFounders Bad Habit Belgian Quad

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Quadrupel (Quad)

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

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Added by CRJMellor on 02-22-2004

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

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Reviews: 102 | Ratings: 114
Photo of brewdlyhooked13
3.7/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

Appearance - pours a reddish copper with a thin head of white. Moments later, the cover is bare save for an uneven ring. Somehow manages to place a few bits of lacing here and there. Turns pretty cloudy/chunky with the last few ounces added.

Aroma - sweet with a base, indistinct fruitiness. Hints of yeast at times and a full vapory alcohol effect on a deep inhale. Smells pleasant enough if somewhat plain.

Taste - before the grains can make any impact, a rush of sweetness and alcohol move in and set up. A bubble gum or maybe Pez candy flavor, a big alcohol effect which ducks any harshness. The swallow begins a trail of warmth from the back of the throat all the way down to the stomach, like the tail of a comet. I'm no expert on the style, but as far as I know this tastes pretty good and would probably also do well if aged a while. The aftertaste is more like an after-thought, mostly just shadows of the candy flavor and the abv.

Mouthfeel - an element of heaviness, syrupiness that helps without overdoing. Bubbles are lively, well done.

Drinkability - I'm glad I bought these at the Founder's Brewing Company event sponsored by the Dilly Deli, but this isn't something I'd keep around.

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Photo of Shovelbum
4.07/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a glowing clear red-orange body with a thin ring of head around the edge of the glass. While there is next to no head the color of the body is spectacular. Aromas of sweet caramel malt, pear, and mild estery clove and pepper. Flavor is rich sweet caramelized malt and candi sugar upfront, followed a respectable citric hop bitterness that takes it through to the finish. There are subtler berry and pear notes as well, that lend a low-level fruity complexity. Body is mid to full, with a substantial sweetness and smooth creamy mouthfeel. The 9.8% ABV is hardly detectable.

A pleasing ale for the nose tongue, and especially the eye. A tad on the sweet side, but there is enough carbonation (despite the meager head) and bitterness to lend a saving balance. That being said the bitterness actually seemed a just a tad crisp and could probably benefit from some aging (not sure how old this particular bottle is, but probably <6months). I’ll definitely look for this again.

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Photo of malcontent
3.55/5  rDev -2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours the color of a red anjou pear with no head whatsoever and a ring of foam around the edges. Pretty color but rather still looking otherwise.

Tons of alcohol up front with sweet bubblegum and ripe fruit (apples, apricots) lingering in the nose. Nice aromas although they are a bit all over the place.

Sweet but not cloyingly so, alcohol is very apparent but given that it's cold outside I'm willing to forgive it. Fruit is far more toned down than in the nose although bready flavors come on strong after the initial sip. Raisin and medicinal tastes compete with a funky bitterness on the finish. Yummy but unbalanced. Perhaps this could benefit from some aging.

Mouthfeel is thick and somewhat syrupy which is to be expected from the style. Unexpected carbonation melds with satisfying creaminess for a very pleasant feeling brew. Drinkability is OK although as previously noted, some maturation could do this one some good. NOTE: paired with some Italian black truffle cheese the drinkability of the beer dramatically improved as some of the harsher edges of the flavor mellowed quite a bit.

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Photo of rhoadsrage
3.58/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

(Served in a chalice)

A- This beer has a glowing hazy deep ambler body when held to the light but looks pretty dark on the table. There are lots of tiny bubbles rolling up the sides of the glass. The creamy meniscus of light tan head forms sheets of foam over the glass after each sip only to slide back down into the beer.

S- The smell of circus peanuts is strong even during the pour. With a closer sniff, notes of banana are the strong and increase when it gets warmer. There is a nice soft sweet caramel note in the background.

T- The big banana and circus peanut note gives way to a strong alcohol flavor in the finish. Notes of sweet caramel and white sugar are followed by notes of banana taffy when it warms a bit.

M- This beer has a medium-full mouthfeel with an alcohol head that really dries out the finish with the tight little fizz.

D- This beer has a sweet sugary taste which is only balanced by a big alcohol heat. There is not much depth of malt flavors. I think age would help the alcohol settle down but I don't think there are enough malt flavors to come through after a bit of age.

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Photo of neonbrown82
3.67/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

This is a decent beer. Nothing too special. I have yet to try an american quad that really blows me away, however. The beer pours to a clear ruby color with a small white head. Much more light and clear than I would have expected. Retention is fairly poor, as expected, and lacing is non-existent. Carbonation looks good, however, though the etching in the bottom of my Unibroue goblet helps.

The smell is the best part of the beer. Nice and caramel malty sweet along with a great banana ester and candi sugar presence. A hint of clove phenols and other spices as well. Very bubblegummy.

The taste is very similar to the aroma, though it is a bit more rough. Nice sweet caramel malt and candi sugar presence in the beginning, followed by a nice bubblegum and banana ester. The finish is intensely spicy. Has a rough and dirty biscuity malt flavor in the finish, along with a lingering bitterness.

The body is medium to heavy. Fairly big alcohol flavor in the finish. The aftertaste is not very pleasant, and it lingers forever. Probably not something I would want to drink again in the future. If I want a quad, I'll have a Rochefort 10 or a St. Bernardus Abt 12, maybe even Nostradamus or Westvleteren if it happens to be available.

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Photo of Westsidethreat
3.5/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to NucularGeorge for this one.

A: Rust colored brew with a fair amount of sediment running through it. Body is calm with out a lot of motion to it. Head only has a beige ring around the glass with just a spill of minor bubbles across the top of the body.

S: Bananas, caramel, brown sugar, toast and dusty cloves.

T: Cotton candy and bubblegum sweetness is the first thing that crosses the palate with a lot more sugar on the way. Fruity esters of apple, raspberry, banana and cantelope are some main components here. Quite spicy with hints of cinnamon, nutmeg and coriander add some pizazz. Bready backbone of raw cinnamon rolls coast this one to finish. Finishes with over the top sweetness with alcohol vapors rolling up the nostrils.

M: Medium body, syrupy and full.

D: I once read a book about brewing that said most brewers are afraid of using too much sugar in their Belgian beers. This beer, has used enough and perhaps too much. Becomes a bit too cloying after a while. Perhaps some age would do this one some good.

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Photo of rousee
2.8/5  rDev -23.1%
look: 2 | smell: 2 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Not impressed with this offering from Founders. Pours a brown-ruby, almost no head at all and it disappears quickly. Smell is vinous and bubble gum-esque in too strong of a fashion. You can almost smell the heat that you expect this beer to exhibit on the palate. It should be more concealed and hidden than this.

The good news is it actually tastes a little better than it smells. You get the essence of bubble gum and grapes reminding me of grappa. There is some alcohol heat but it is delievered in a somewhat unpleasant way--a little more gentle than it smells but still one of the poorer examples of a quad that I have tried. I still love Founders as a brewery. I will just chalk it up to a style that they didnt quite hit right.

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3.47/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Very carbonated foggy deep amber brown body. Hosts a very quick fading light tan head, which is surprising considering the carbonation presence. Nose is very sweet with noticeable banana taffy kink of feel, also has honey and vanilla present. A buzz of banana, anise, and a back bone of slightly malty rich wheat. Alchol is soured somewhat but overall well hidden and doesnt impeed the brew. Does warm the belly well after about half way through. Slightly syrupy thick on the mouthfeel. A little sweet for everyday. Might age well though.

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Photo of joedon
3.65/5  rDev +0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a murky amber brown with a rapidly fading off-white head. Big, estery Belgian aroma. I smelled the fruity pear and pineapple notes as well as some bubble-gum.
Taste isn't quite up to a quadrupel. Lots of caramel and burnt sugar flavors. Some hop bitterness that doesn't match up to the residual sugar. A lot of phenolic-yeasty flavors.
Mouthfeel is good with a lot of alcohol warmth.
This is not a bad beer and is pretty drinkable for 9.8%. That said, I'd still choose La Trappe or St. Bernardus for my quad drinking.

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Photo of phisig137
2.46/5  rDev -32.4%
look: 3 | smell: 2 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 1

Pours a clear amber copper color, with a one finger head. Pour retention leaves nothing behind.

Aroma is a train wreck of booze. There is a tiny hint of caramel malt aromas, but it is overwhelmed by the alcohol. Pretty bad smelling.

Flavor is luckily a bit better. Some malt flavors up front, with nice toffe and biscuity notes. Sweet, and with a distinct presence of candi sugar. The finish is pure alcohol burn. Mouthfeel is heavy, slick, and coating. Drinkability is pretty low, due to the outrageously prevalent alcohol.

Overall, I think this is pretty bad, which surprises me, considering the quality of other founder's beers. Borderline drain pour, if I wasn't sipping it slowly. Normally, I LOVE Belgian quads.... this one just misses the mark.. by quite a bit. If you like rubbing alcohol, this may be your beer, otherwise, I wouldn't recommend it. Thanks to DeeJayDan for sending it to me, I am very glad I got a chance to try it.... it's just not something that I'd spend my money on again.

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Photo of feloniousmonk
3.42/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Hazy, amber-toned hue, slim whitish head atop....

Nose is sweetish, and citric, but lightly played..candyish, really, like candy corn...not good. A bit plastic.

Taste: Big, fat orange flavor, but more like circus peanuts...plastic, again...dark and bright fruits shine in this, but they don't feel right, they feel artificial. It's a fake Belgian, that we know, but it doesn't have to feel fake.
Very odd, and off, and out of sorts, this one. Doesn't resemble quads, as I know them...maybe a sugary tripel? 9.8%, and feeling it, a bit...but still lacking finesse and ...well, not a bad beer, but more heat than true character, here, more bigness than real flavor. Rather dismissable, sorry to say.

Full-bodied, with a long, hot, citric finish...but not a recommended Quad, if you like to limit your experiences to the very best, This ain't one of them, but me, I try 'em all!

thanks to trbeer!

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Photo of scruffwhor
4.06/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The color is an awesome candy coated cognac and brandy with its luscious amber hues. But alas, very little head after the pour and none what so ever about two minutes after. Also lacking in the bubble or lacing department as well. The kick ass color saves this beers appearance. The aroma is heavy on candied bananas, rose petals, burny malts, and some corn syrup. Yes, it does have a smell. Not like most other Quads I've had before, but I like it's unique nature. Very malty sweet, not too many dark flavors, more like light, alcoholic flavors to be precise. Some floral, even hoppy note intgrated with amaretto and medium toasted malt flavors. The tongue hasa mild velvety silk of alcohol. Feels like a lighter scotch might. Very nice and different. Would like to buy again and share with some open minded friends.

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Photo of Sycodrummer
3.98/5  rDev +9.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the stubby 12oz. bottle into a Chimay chalice the beer was a dark cherry red color with one-finger of frothy white head that sustained well and left ample lacing. A steady stream of carbonation bubbles eminated from the center of the glass. A solid looking beer.

The nose is quite aromatic with aromas of alcohol and "belgian" yeast predominant. Some dark fruitty flavors of plum and raison come through but are not overly abundant. A slight black berry currant aroma with some phenolic medicinal notes as well.

The taste has some alcoholic hints up front but not overly hot. Light berry and fruit flavors grab the palate with some raisony flavors coming through. Phenolic flavors and alcohol intensify as the beer warms as does the yeast character and the hot dark fruit flavors associated with the style. Some grape/wine like notes in the finish and the body seems a tad thin.

Medium body, seemingly a little thinner than comparable examples of the style. About average carbonation, that does not get in the way.

This represents a very nice interpretation of the quad by an american brewer. The body lacks a little depth and the alcohol really sneak up on you here. Alcoholic flavors seem muted throughout, but soon make their presence known. All in all an enjoyable beer.

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Photo of Nipitato
3.82/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Purchased a bottle at Julio's Liquors in Westborough, MA

A: Visibly effervescent. Glowing deep amber color. No head.

S: Strong clove like phenols predominate. Slightly malty background. Complex interplay with clove like phenols and fruity esters.

T: Raisiny esters take the lead in this complex ester, phenol, alcohol, malt tango. Spicy phenols less present than smell would indicate. Alcohol taste also present.

MF: Medium body. Effervescent. Alcohol warming but subtle like a triple.

D: Sit back and relax with theis big boozy beauty. It will catch up with you if you are not careful.

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Photo of shbobdb
2.27/5  rDev -37.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Aventinus had begun that day like any other -- preening infront of a mirror. He was, after all, one of the finest beers in existence and he knew it.

But Gambrinus is a capricious god and does not tolerate such egoism. So, he decided to play a trick on prideful, prideful Aventinus. Now, there are many variations of the old story floating about -- some say that Aventinus could only love himself and that Gambrinus granted Aventinus's wish by having his female counterpart, Aventina walk through the mirror one morning. Others say, in a story which is perhaps much closer to the truth, that Aventinus was slumming in some seedy bar near the Kellog plant and had a tryst with some flashy (but ultimately unfulfilling) macro lager.

While the details are lost to us, the result is not -- Bad Habit (possibly named for either Aventinus's narcissism, or for his habit of slumming -- this is the strongest piece of evidence for the latter version of the story).

So, what is Bad Habit? Well, the smell is initially fairly exciting -- bits of banana, hints of clove. It really takes after his father, very weizenesque with a hefty dose of alcohol warmth to cut the spice.

But it is all downhill from there. A razor-thin mouthfeel leaves a great deal to be desired, while the potenital of the malts and sugars are left completely behind as raw banana takes over. Nothing exciting, nothing interesting, no wheat-spice nor even clove (really) to back it up. It tastes like a homebrew that was fermented far too hot. Some say that it was merely recessive genes that Aventinus had always had, but rarely manifested all comming to the fore -- others insist it was a legacy from its macro-lager mother.

Regardless, this is a child that would have been better served by being locked up in the attic, never to be heard from again.

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Photo of ChainGangGuy
2.4/5  rDev -34.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Appearance: Pours a light, hazy copper body with no real head or lacing to speak of.

Smell: Stinging aroma of concord grapes and rubbing alcohol. Quite similar to a cheap, well brandy.

Taste: Harsh and astringent, to say the least. Hints of dry, stale bubblegum mixed sweetened fortified wine paint a picture of a beer gone horribly awry. However, any amiss flavors are immediately drowned out by the blisteringly hot alcohol burn. In a word: Yeesh!

Mouthfeel: Thin-bodied, with an oily, sticky mouthfeel.

Drinkability: All of the wonderous qualities that make for a truly delicious quadruple were totally abandoned for this brew. Definitely the most un-quad "quad" I have ever tasted, and a real stomach churner, too.

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Photo of AndoBrew
2.2/5  rDev -39.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 1

*I hated it and will never taste it again.. thankgoodness*

app: looks normal and ok, sept this dont look like no quad at all.

smell: belgian candy smell, but a bad one. very lite and fruity.. a touch of a medicine nose.

taste: OH NO!! this is not good at all. the booze taste like cough syrup flavoring.. it all tastes very fake and off.. fake candy belgian sweetness, fake booze flavoring.. I would not be shocked if it were all artificaly flavored. way to sweet, not depth or complexity. upset.

mf: why do i bother. this feels like bad beer.

drinkable?: NO!! I can not even fake it!

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Photo of wcudwight
3.9/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Sampled with Enola while assembling Christmas gifts. Thanks for the help Enola!!!
Pours a peachy sunset color with some maple mixed in. Nice coloration...good mixture between lights and darks. Small head, but what little head there was had good retention.
Smells of banannas and alcohol. The bananna aroma dominates the alcohol though.
Nice fruity flavors. Bananna, peach, cheeries. Very sweet. Candy like sweetness with a crisp warming finish of alcohol.
Crisp, smooth, medium bodied in the mouth.
Due to the high alcohol this one is a sipper for sure. Drinkability wasn't bad, but I think this one could use another year or so cellering.
Overall a good beer that I recommend. I have swedejay to thank for this brew.

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Photo of tendermorsel
4.25/5  rDev +16.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

This beer poured very smoothly into my snifter...
Great color and head. The head disapated nicely.
Good aroma. Very sweet. Tastes of bubble gum.
A bit too much yeast for my liking. One of the bottles in my 4 pack had clumps of yeast:(

Overall a very unique Quad and well worth tring if you see it.

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Photo of Enola
4.07/5  rDev +11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This was a good beer. The style is a newer one to me but this beer was a good beer to have at 2:00am Christmas morning. The color was a light orange and there was a small head with plenty of carbonation. The smell was of alcohol and it was fairly fruity. The taste was of dried bananna chips and the alcohol was evident. The mouthfeel burnt a little due the the abv. This beer is a sipper for sure.

Santa got some chocolate chip cookies and a Belgium Quad this year.

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Photo of ndekke39
4.37/5  rDev +20.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured from the 12 oz bottle. Pours a slightly cloudy tawny orange, with a thin white head. Small, continuous stream of fizz keeps the head on it. Smells sweet: caramel, yeast, banana, bread. Tastes much of the same... warm, bready, yeasty, bananas, alcohol. Overall the beer features bread and soft fruits like banana and pears. Very small fizzy bubbles that continue to form. Very drinkable beer, although the higher alcohol content (9.8% ABV) requires some caution.

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Photo of ultralarry2006
3.06/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle. Leaves less than one finger of a tan tinted head that fades to just a foam ring at the edges, and it leaves no lacing. Body is a hazy light garnet.

Smell - horse blanket, cloves and bananas, and hints of plums and apricots, and a hint of spicy alcohol.

Taste - horse blanket with sour cherries, plums, apricots, and a hint of saltine crackers, all washed through with some medicinal alcohol.

Mouthfeel - thin bodied, and fluid.

Drinkability - this is decent, but not great, and the high abv holds down the sessionability.

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Photo of BelgianAleSlut
3.71/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Saw this 12 oz single while picking up the weekend beer selection, thought I'd give it a try. Founder's has been reliable thus far. Screw cap?

Poured into goblet, semi-cloudy caramel color which appears on the flat side with no foam/lacing. Smells of apple-cider vinegar and has a good belgian ale type note. Has tastes of sweet and sour, not sure if I picked up a bad bottle or this is the desired flavor. Mouthfeel is o.k., good weight and slight stinging on the tongue is nice. Wondering if the small bottle hinders this beer to develop properly. Drinkability increases as the tongue gets accustomed to sharp edges.

Visiting family near Grand Rapids around the holidays. I may give it a try of the tap, but will not purchase bottle again. As far as quads go, La Trappe (Koningshoeven) still ranks better.

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Photo of CharlesDarwin
3.36/5  rDev -7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Originally reviewed on October 14, 2006. 12 Oz Bottle. Aroma blasts forth a heavy phenolic crush of banana skins and ripe fruits. Surprising for the style. This is carried along with a quite hot alcohol. Flavor is more of the phenolic yeast character, but moreso in a sweet, bright crisp fruity schnapps character, yet a little shallow. The flavor runs a current of milder malts and not a depth of sugars. There are some noticable aged belgian style hop characters. Alcohol is very warm and biting and the beer could use a little more depth for the style. Really not terrible though.

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Photo of IntriqKen
2.85/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a nice dark Golden orange with a half finger of white that melts to a ring of white lace.
Aroma is definite belgium....soft sweet fruits like apricots and peach with Belgium bready yeast and a hint of the alcohol in this brew coming on the tail end.
Taste is candied fruits...candied apricot and peach....then heavy on the alcohol. A slight bubblegum taste as an aftertaste.
Mouthfeel is rich and full with lots of tiny carbonation tingling the tongue.
To me, this Belgium quad just misses the mark. The elements are there...they just aren't there balanced or right.

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Founders Bad Habit Belgian Quad from Founders Brewing Company
3.64 out of 5 based on 114 ratings.
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