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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

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Reviews: 1,264 | Ratings: 4,597
Photo of ChipChaight
4.27/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle form Pioneer Supermarket on the UWS
Pours a hazy light amber with a ring of head and decent lacing, smell is dried fruits, dates, prune juice, toffee, roasted malts, taste is burnt honey, molasses, mellon rind, roasted squash, bourbon, this beer is velvety and full bodied with good carbonation. Comforting, warming, roasted bourbon goodness.

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Photo of HoodviewBrew
4.68/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

The beer pours dark amber with a thin head. I agree with another reviewer, "The aroma is very like bourbon - very sweet, with vanilla, brown sugar and then notes of oatmeal, ginger, clove, and black tea." The flavor is strong in fruit with raisins, cherries, and molasses that gives it a delightful bitterness. The alcohol and bourbon flavors resonate from start to finish with that great old ale sourness. Great beer- one of, if not the best, of the Founders series.

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Photo of EagleTalon
3.76/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Pours to a off white head and ample lacing. Deep dirty copper. Aroma is vanilla, molasses, fruits and booze. Flavor is rich and complex, and supremely malty. Whiskey, smoke, slices, dried fruit, nuts, caramelized sugars and soft alpha acids. MF is good. Nice little sipper.

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Photo of stevoj
3.96/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Very tasty, malty ale. Pours out a murky, orange copper color with spare head. Malty, musty, woody aroma, fall leaves and decay. Taste is some sweetish malt, a hint of alcohol, maple syrup, toffee, caramels. Very delicious and very easy to drink. Gone before you know it....

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Photo of Holderness
4.41/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

L -- Pours a thick, dark brown that requires excessive aeration to produce a one finger head. Some floaties settled on bottom of bottle. be careful when pouring.
S -- Smoke, malt, chocolate, coffee, oats, brandy
T -- Similar to a heavy oatmeal stout. Lots of maple tones.
F -- Mouthfeel like that of a heavy, unfiltered ale. Reminds me of Switchback or Shed Mountain Ale but with a higher alcohol content.
O -- My first of this style. Definitely curious to try more!

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Photo of Czequershuus
4.29/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

This beer pours the color of dark buckwheat honey with a small head. The aroma is very like bourbon - very sweet, with vanilla, brown sugar and then notes of oatmeal, gigner, clove, and black tea. The flavor leads with cacao nibs, vanilla, molasses, raisin, nutmeg, cinnamon, nougat, cherry, and slight bitterness at the end. The mouthfeel is heavy, sticky, and rich with little carbonation. Overall this is a wonderfully complex, and rich, but with a great bitter undercurrent.

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Photo of RickyS
4.21/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Creamy/yellowish head and dark amber beer. Very sweet on the nose with hints of spices, molasses, malts, toffee. The taste is also very sweet with a medium finish leaving a honey aftertaste. Little carbonation, creamy and thick. Very nice beer for the style and overall.

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Photo of Act25
3.99/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Best Old Ale if you like them sweet and thick.

A: One finger off white head on a slightly hazed mahogany body.

S: Big toasted malts, toffee, sweet/fruit breads, molasses and dark fruit, fig.

T: Sweeter than expected, toffee, caramel and brown sugars, malt dominant. Nice. Spicy ending.

M: Creamy, smooth heavier body with moderate carbonation.

Overall: Big Old Ale. Nice work.

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Photo of Amedlin18
4.39/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottled 1/14/15. "Cellared" in a dark room temp area and drank 7/19 /16. Really smooth with warm alcohol burn but an enjoyable one. The 50 IBU bitterness has softened. Really great and glad I have another in storage

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Photo of jaypaul522
4.39/5  rDev +10%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

This is a rich, full bodied ale with hearty flavors and a very strong finish. The high alcohol content does show through somewhat, but I found this to be a very satisfying end-of-the-day beer.

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Photo of 1000lbgrizzly
4.19/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Clear ruby-copper body, thick and rich looking, with a light tan head that fades to nothing. Nose is rich and buttery, molasses and caramel add a mild sweetness. Taste is buttery and warming, notes of molasses, caramel, toasted bread, toasted wood, toasted marshmallow, a touch of vanilla and bourbon/cognac. Leans sweet, but has overpowering warmth to steer it in a better direction. Body is rich, full, heavy, mouth-coating.
Quite a yummy specimen here. The sweetness is mitigated by heavier, warming flavors, and quite a good variety of them at that. Reminiscent of a quad or a barleywine. This wonderful brew did the opposite of its name and reversed my curmudgeonly attitude about old ales.

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Photo of Bulabeers
4.63/5  rDev +16%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

L: amber colored beer with a half finger of white head that leaves a nice film and little lacing as you drink
S: vanilla oak aromas with the irony molasses characteristic
T: vanilla, oak, irony molasses, and faint hops, appropriate alcohol presence, dark fruit.... good stuff
F: Nice and smooth, not under-carbonated or anything but creamy and easy going
O: Delicious. Love the label love the name love the beer. Really straight forward like a true curmudgeon should be.

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Photo of Jraiona
4.62/5  rDev +15.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle dated 1/4/16 poured into a Nonic pint. The color was a beautiful red/Amber with about 1 finger of well retained head and good lacing. The nose was permeated with a nice blend of malt and molasses both of which were prevalent on the palate. As I noted in many of my reviews I'm not a big fan of very hop forward/bitter beers. To me this achieved a very nice level of hopiness without being overly assertive while at the same time in had a nice blend of sweetness from the malt that created a wonderful balance. A definite winner in my book.

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Photo of JustLikeMyDad
3.1/5  rDev -22.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.75 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.25

Bought it almost on a whim, pricey for a single bottle.

Poured into a beer glass, pours darkish brown, caramel color. No foamy head, thin foam sits on the head.

Smell from the bottle didn't indicate much, other than alcohol. Neither much does it from the glass, smells almost fruity if I drink it through my nose.

Taste is interesting, almost complex. Heavy roasted malt flavor, similar to a scotch ale, with some chocolate notes. A bit of an alcohol taste to it with some bitterness aftertaste.

Feels bold, full, and has a bite to it, not for those who dislike the alcohol taste or feel.

Overall, pricey, but okay, pleasantly complex but not to my taste. At least the label is nice.

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Photo of Natron734
4.38/5  rDev +9.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Large flavor but smooth, blended. Though distinct, flavors seem to meet each other with smoothed borders. No doubt from barrel aging. Watch out! After one, you may need more of these!

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Photo of fscottkey
4.17/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: [4.50] Gorgeous brown to burgundy color. The beer has 1 finger of off white head. The head is thick and creamy with nice retention. The bottle lists the ABV (9.8%) and has a born on date (01/04/16).

S: [4.25] Leather, dark brown bread, dark caramel and peat.

T: [4.00] Follows the nose. Really nice dark brown bread flavor followed by peat and earthiness. Spiced rum. Underneath something reminiscent of root beer hard candies (a sweet herbal tone).

M: [4.25] Slick and thick. Nice body and heft. Has elevated alcohol that can be felt as a little heat on the finish.

O: [4.25] This beer is hitting on all cylinders. Pretty in the glass. Complex nose with inviting scents. The flavor is rich and complex. The mouthfeel is really nice and the alcohol heat does not detract from it. I want to share this beer with friends.

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Photo of BeerManDan
4.3/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

When poured into a glass the color was amber with an orange hue, with very little tan foam. The smell had a sweet roasted malty aroma, with a hint of oak and coriander? The taste had a sweet/tart finish of sweet malts, with a candy finish. Overall, sweet, tart and a very good and lingering aftertaste.

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Photo of NotAlcoholicJustAHobby
4.14/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Bottled 01/04/16

L- The beer pours reddish brown which appears more red when light is shown through it. The head is a fluffy 3 fingers of off white foam.
S-The nose if full of molasses and plum.
T- The first thing noted is the molasses and faint vanilla sweetness. The dark fruit sweetness takes over and the beer finishes with a touch of drying hop bitterness and alcohol warmth.
F-Carbonation is light despite the towering head on the initial pour. The overall mouthfeel is medium.
O- This is a fine old ale. One that I would drink over and over. Highly recommended.

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Photo of jakecattleco
3.87/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 01/04/16 into a tulip glass. Pours a copper amber with two fingers of variable density white head that left nice lacing. Nose is sweet, definitely hints of molasses. Taste reminds me of a Wee Heavy, definitely wanted more barrel character. Mouthfeel is good, very easy drinking, carbonation fine, and the finish slightly sweet and lingers. Not sure what to make of this one. Its good, but left me wanting much more barrel influence.

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Photo of mntlover
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a copper color with a touch of red, bottle conditioned as plenty of little floaters around. Khaki colored small head falls fast but does leave some spotty lace.

Aroma malty goodness, dark fruity notes, molasses and spice. Some earthy like notes slight alcohol twang and seems like touches of cinnamon. The oak aged just come off as vanilla more then woody even though it probably adds to the dryness.

Taste is like the nose but bigger lots of malt, sugary molasses, dark fruits adding to the sweetness. Earthy and vanilla with touches of alcohol, oak and some hops come out to make sure it doesn't move to cloying. Nice pretty spot on for an old ale made for sipping goodness. A malty good treat with just enough hops to keep it from being cloying.

Mouthfeel is kind of light for big beer say medium or maybe a touch more. Carbonation is fairly mellow also.

Overall an nice old ale little more fruity and spicy then most, also little less hop kick. But overall an enjoyable treat.

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Photo of HamdenHector
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A; opaque; an orangish bronze; 1 finger khaki head that receded to a thin collar; little lacing;

S: vanilla, alcohol, molasses, sweet malt;

T: molasses and oak up front; dark fruit in the middle; finish is very mildly bitter; alcohol is warming at the end;

M: medium bodied; moderate carbonation; moderately dry finish;

O: considering the 9.8% ABV, this is pretty smooth;

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Photo of Obake21
3.9/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L = Nice dark amber with a large light beige head.
S = Subdued sweet malt smell.
T = Light malt and bitterness on the end. Not too terribly interesting, but not bad tasting.
F = Light carbonation.
O = I thought there would be a little more to this one, but still not bad a bad drink.

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Photo of StoutElk_92
4.42/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottled 01/15/16

Pours a nice copper red amber with a creamy khaki colored head. Smells like malty molasses, oak, mild spice, dried fruit, hint of vanilla, biscuit, caramel, toffee, with mild pine and earthy grass. Tastes like smooth malty molasses, caramel, toffee, biscuit, vanilla, dried fruit medley, with earthy pine and dank grass. Feels medium bodied, creamy with moderate low carbonation. Overall a really tasty oak aged molasses old ale.

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Photo of Chris_the_Tartar
3.86/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Look- Somewhat opaque dark amber, little to no head
Smell- Malt. Malt. Malt. Maybe a hint of rye.
Taste- Oak, maple syrup, molasses, honey, toffee, malt
Feel- Slick, oily almost sticky
Overall- A strong beer for strong men (and women!). Drinking this makes me feel like a lumberjack slurping maple syrup right out of a tap in the tree. A bit sweet for my tastes, but it won't be a struggle to get through the rest of the 4 pack.

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Photo of MizzouBrew
4.29/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a nice reddish orange color with a thick puffy tan head. Incredible sticky lacing. Thick mouthfeel and boozy, no hiding the alcohol in this one.

Using the Begnel formula, the Alcohol Score is 12 oz. x 9.8% = 117.6, or 2.3 Bud Lights.

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