Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BA SCORE
4.02/5
4,759 Ratings
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#3,112
Reviews:
1,323
Ratings:
4,759
pDev:
10.45%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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219
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Ratings: 4,759 |  Reviews: 1,323
Photo of morimech
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Appearance- Pours a dark caramel color with a small head that quickly settled to a thin skim of bubbles. A little sticky lacing is left on the glass. Some particulate matter that settles to the bottom of the glass.

Smell- Things really pick up now. A lot caramel and toffee notes. Smells sweet and fruity. Alcohol is detected but does not seem intimidating.

Taste- Overall sweet but not overboard in sweetness. Nice toffee and rum flavors up front. A touch of vanilla as well. The alcohol is well integrated and adds some warmth and kick. There is a hop flavor and bitterness that detracts from the wonderful malt flavor. The deeper I got into the glass, the hops became even more noticeable and lowered the score a little. I would of preferred a much milder hopped ale here but this is still a damn near perfect flavored Old Ale. This might of been influence by the hop crazed beer culture as it would of been better with half the IBUs.

Mouthfeel- Soft, silky smooth texture. Full bodied and rich. Perfect.

Drinkability- My bottle has a date of 02/24/09. Should of waited a little longer and let the hops fade some more. But still a very good example of the style.

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Photo of SFNC
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Branlott42
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of ChipChaight
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle form Pioneer Supermarket on the UWS
Pours a hazy light amber with a ring of head and decent lacing, smell is dried fruits, dates, prune juice, toffee, roasted malts, taste is burnt honey, molasses, mellon rind, roasted squash, bourbon, this beer is velvety and full bodied with good carbonation. Comforting, warming, roasted bourbon goodness.

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Photo of Erish
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I poured this 12 oz. bottle into a nonic pint glass. No freshness date.

A: cloudy cider-colored, pours a caramel-colored head that quickly falls into a thin head with scant lacing. About what I expect from a wood-aged beer of this strength.

S: molasses, vanilla, toffee, dried/ripe fruit; apples, figs, raisins.

T: the caramel sweetness and fruit are thick up front, and the woodsy/vanilla character slowly reveals itself, and finally a lightly mineral bitterness opens up with an herbal and floral hop character, and a slow, boozy alcoholic heat also emerges.

M: Full-bodied, velvety, almost syrupy texture, light carbonation.

O: Is it an Old Ale or Barleywine? Who cares! It is tasty, tasty stuff.

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Photo of FreshHawk
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A - Tawny ruby color with a medium sized, smooth, creamy, off-white head. Fairly tight head that disappears fairly fast. Leaves a nice thin layer of lacing.

S - Starts out with a heavy dose of dark fruit. Mostly date and raisin with some dried fig. Subtle dried cherry but nothing too strong. Strong amount of molasses and brown sugar with a slight burnt aroma. As the beer opens up, the aroma get slightly sweeter with a syrupy/maple sweetness. Caramel and a slight butterscotch aroma also comes out. Faintest hint of oak/cask.

T - Compared to the nose, there is a bit stronger dried/dark cherry flavor. Very strong molasses and brown sugar base. Dark fruit jumps off that base. Date, raisin, and plum all present with a slight tartness that wasn't in the nose. Notes of leather in the background. Slight oakiness coms out at the finish. Nice kick on the finish of slight alcohol and slight barrel. Overall, it's like an rum-soaked fruit cake.

M - Medium, bordering on full body. Pretty smooth and surprisingly well carbonated.

D - Very nice sipping beer. Strong flavors and it has a slight kick of alcohol but not overpowering. Quite sweet but not cloying. Overall a nice example of the style.

Notes: Review on 5/2/14. Bottled 4/19/12. Overall this aged pretty well. I think it has a very slight edge over fresh. The flavors mellowed out a bit, the oaky flavors dropped off a bit. It seems like it is in a good balance with the sweetness, the woodiness, and the alcohol right now. Overall this is a great example of the style. Not overpowering wood aspects but it provides a nice extra note. Molasses on the other hand really comes out. Good fresh and aged and worth picking up and stashing a few away.

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Photo of Fenris244
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

poured into my Duvel tulip

Pours a deep reddish orange, thin white head, little retention, good amount of lacing though. A little hazy but looks great none the less.

Smell is of dark fruits, plum and cherry with, boozy sweetness and some brown sugar and toffee like aromas.

Plum and cherry flavors are there as well, little bits of hop bitterness. Has an earthy quality too it and some sweet toffee and booze on the finish. The flavors balance well and it's never too sweet and the hops never overpower the other flavors, very satisfying to drink
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Heavier in body, booze heats up the palate and you can definitely feel it, very enjoyable.

Overall, I'd love to be able to get more of this brew, I look forward to seeing founders in Texas one of these days!

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Photo of Everydayoff
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

355ml bottle poured into an oversized wine glass.

Mildly hazed amber copper hue, it tops with one finger of foamy off-white head that stands just for a while before sinking to some long-lasting bubble film on the surface along with some sticky lacing patch and spot on the glass-side.

Maltiness affair in the aroma with many varieties ranging from roasted, peat, biscuit, bread, toffee, butterscotch, vanilla, and caramel. There is also a note of molasses and hint of grassiness from hop as well as subtle scent of alcohol.

Still malty goodness overloaded in the taste as well as its aroma, anyway, it is in good way and very inviting. Kick off with solid sweetness from malt and molasses but in proper amount, not that cloying. At the same time, other flavors of malt draw in with notes of roasted, peat, biscuit, bread, toffee, butterscotch, vanilla, and caramel (like in the aroma). Just some subtle bitterness and it is mainly from burnt malt not hop.

The body is slightly beyond medium but not that bold with smooth mouthfeel from its lively carbonation generated a soft effervescence covering the palate. The mouthfeel is just right since carbonation did it job well to carry all the things, dry finish.

Superbly balance even this brew has pure malt domination but it is precisely that malt can balance itself with lots of variety and ample range of character. The oak-aged helps to add up more complexity of the aroma and flavor. It has remarkable balance between everything inside, more than worthy to give it a try.

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Photo of HopFace
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of mpmcguire11
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of msubulldog25
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A 12 oz. bottle poured to a pint glass. This was received sometime in mid-2007 from a midwest trader as an extra; no date on the bottle...since it's an Old Ale (9.3%), I figured the unknown age wouldn't be much of a factor.

A: Very pretty hue...a toasty, reddish auburn that glows like an ember. Everything else is less attractive: a virtually still carbonation, many suspended bits of tiny yeast, a pencil-thin strand of light tan around the rim. No lace. Looks 'old'...but the color nudges this above 'average'.

S: Immediate aroma of raisins, cherries, and a boozy oaken bourbon. Citrus hopping, tons of malty toffee/sugar sweetness - this smells somewhat like a mellowed English barleywine.

A: So much of what's in the aroma comes forward in the flavor - very happy with that! The cherry/raisin/bourbon flavor is impressively complex, with a balanced hoppy spiciness and even some oak tartness. Why am I so convinced that this wood-aged, when there's nothing on the bottle or Founders website that indicates this? Both my wife and I tasted this barrel-like flavor first and foremost...

M: Certainly there's been some softening of the carbonation, which in turn gives a nice velvety quality. Not a huge body, nor a lengthy lingering aftertaste; this one is smooth and pleasantly warm in the mouth and down the throat.

D: Wonderful to drink at the moment. Whatever some extra aging has done to downgrade the appearance has been made up for in drinkability and texture. Well-balanced flavors and enticing aroma make for an ale I'd love to sip on again. Recommended!

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Photo of Imperialjake
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of CheapBeerBuzz
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Young_John
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

So good, I get misty while writing this review. It pours the color of clover honey. Crystal clear and yet somehow gives the impression of high viscosity. Thin merengue head. Smell of malt and molasses. Thick mouth feel. Rich finish and not the least bit bitter. This is a stout lovers ale for sure. First sip - is like coming home to mom's cooking... Even if you've never had this before, you instantly get the sensation that you've been missing it for a very long time without knowing it. Difficult to enjoy slowly, but at nearly 10% abv and $14/4-pack, you'll have to try.

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Photo of Lucoli
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of chaz410
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Wow what a beer, I mean really, what a beer!! This beer pours cloudy and thick and seems like it's gonna be some sort of imperial brown ale. The smell is really sweet and smoot and has a crisp after effect. I love the tast of this beer, it is laced with vanilla and oak notes along with heavy malts. Caramel malt really rings out in this monster beer, it's really smooth too. I love this beer, share it with a friend and enjoy!

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Photo of SLeffler27
4.27/5  rDev +6.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Curmudgeon pours dark copper with fine sediment in suspension. In the Dogfish Head snifter, the beer is dark amber with a late-erupting head. The cascade glistens cedar gold as it builds a fine, off-white, creamy head that lasts five minutes and leaves a coating of lace.

The aroma includes caramelized sugar, dried fig, prunes, and some whiskey.

Initial sweetness gives way to light bitterness. Dark fruits lead the way with raisins and dried figs. The finish is light and lingering. Warmth brings out light rum flavors and a progression of character.

A smooth body that is full, yet creamy, with light carbonation and, after four years in the bottle, a modest sense of warming alcohol.

Age has served this Curmudgeon well as the booziness from a young bottle is now well checked. This works well for sipping while reading.

This label is an example of how Founders artwork elevates beer. More importantly, scowl aside, the label reminds me of George :-)

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Photo of kyle_goochstink
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of SHODriver
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

bottle from 4/6/2012

A: pours a deep amber hue with a finger of off white head that quickly fades to a small collar around the edge of the glass
S: smells of alcohol, a bit of caramel, and some slight fruitiness
T: a bit of caramel, toffee, molasses, some alcohol, a bit of spice, and a slight fruity flavor. swallow is slightly toasty with more caramel, toffee and alcohol and a slight bitterness
M: full in the mouth but not overly viscous. carbonation is soft but adequate
O: a very good beer. solid complexity and good flavors without any noticeable flaws

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Photo of maxcoinage
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured a (2013) bottle into snifter.
Appearance was a dark amber color with a 1 in off-white head.
Aroma was of maple and oak
Mouthfeel was a light syrup consistency
Taste-malty, biscuity, a hint of maple sweetness
Overall- a great beer, similar to a Barleywine. Booze is well hidden here. For $16 a four pack, I can’t say I would buy more than one a year but its a nice pick up.

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Photo of NateMac13
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of dank203
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

ale with good medium fruity sweet sugary notes and definitely oaky notes. hints of cinnamon and nutmeg spice. hint of an apple or some lighter fruit. pretty complex and drinkable, not overly sweet. well balanced and just really nice, well rounded beer, not much hop presence

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Photo of Beer-Revelry
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A - Pours to a murky dark copper orange. Forms a quickly dissipating half finger of off white soapy head.
S - Malts malts and more malts. No hop profile to this beer whatsoever. Has milk stout qualities in the aroma. Once allowed to warm up a bit, more oak and molasses notes shine through in the aroma.
T - Once again, a ton of malts and no hops. Has a sweet boozey flavor with a little bitter oak in the back to round off the sweetness. Molasses is a bit faint but present. Beer is simple and rounded, malty sweetness with oak bitterness at the end. Extremely smooth and deceptively sessionable.
O - A quite good beer, not amazing, but very good. Definitely worth a try.
V - Medium value, standard 4 pack Founder's pricing.

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Photo of zotzot
4.26/5  rDev +6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of aszatk01
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
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