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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
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4,768 Ratings
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#3,191
Reviews:
1,325
Ratings:
4,768
pDev:
10.45%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
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Ratings: 4,768 |  Reviews: 1,325
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4.75/5  rDev +18.2%

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of do_ob
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12 oz. bottle into a snifter. Pours a somewhat hazy amber with about 1/2 a finger of off-white lacing. Pleasant aroma with notes of ginger, molasses, figs, raisins, dark fruit, leather, and syrup. Verynaweet and boozy smelling. Heavy weight, very dense and creamy on the mouthfeel. The taste is pretty much on par with the smell, only intensified. Sweet molasses, sugar, figs, and dark fruit. I'm tasting some alcohol near the middle. Finishes very smooth with a slight alcohol burn. Leaves the palate sweet and sticky, kind of like a cough medicine. A smokey, syrupy sweetness dominates the aftertaste.

Overall, very nice. I've wanted to try this one for a while and I'm glad I was able to find it. It's a bit dense and overpowering in terms of sweetness, but it's still plenty enjoyable, to me at least. It seemed to mellow out slightly after it warmed up a little. My bottle was pretty fresh, though, so I'd like to age a couple more of these and see how they are 6-12 months in.

Update: 10/20/15: After revisiting this beer, it is much better with some age on it. My bottle was right at 9 months and tastes great. Numbers and review adjusted.

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Photo of Neorebel
3.9/5  rDev -3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Color is a ruddy, burnt umber, with light flecks floating about. Seems to be some carbonation - a peach colored head initially appears to be about 1/4" but dissipates shortly thereafter. Aroma is sweet, with figs, toffee, molasses, bittersweet chocolate, and grainy malt apparent. The body is full and rich, with a wine-like acidity. The first hint of the flavor is like dessert of some kind before the hops kick in. Warms nicely without being too astringent. Overall, a great balance between sweet & bitter aspects. Would buy again.

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2.57/5  rDev -36.1%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

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3.89/5  rDev -3.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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3.85/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

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4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

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4.49/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

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4.5/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review taken from notes during inet downtime(late spring 2012)

12 oz short brown bottles with a pretty classy label. Artwork of an old man who could be no other than Old man curmudgeon himself. He's definitely a hard looking lad. Anyway, I poured this into a nonic pint glass. I thought about the founders snifter, but for some reason I couldn't picture a weathered fisherman drinking from a snifter.

A -dull rusty Copper orange shade of copper full of a lighter orange hue. The brew is almost brown sitting on the table but seems to nearly glow when held in the light where you'll find a good bit of funk floating about. Decent off white colored head that does disolve to small ring of lace. Hazy and clouded look to the body.

S - Pretty sweet aroma. You get the sweet whiff of Vanilla oak aged character. Maybe a slight hint of bourbon. Caramel and sugar malt with some roasted nut notes. This aroma is dominated by oak and sweet malts.

T - just as sweet as the nose. Vanilla Up front that really brings to mind the oak aged character. Woodsy Bourbon hints really start to take effect along with a Roasted nut flavor. A touch of fruitiness down within a massive field of Malt sweetness. This flavor is incredibly sweet with a slight booziness in the back, but nothing potent.

M - Full bodied and thick in the mouth. Does a nice job of coating the taste buds. Very smooth and pretty easy to drink even at 9.8%. Has a warming feeling in the back of the mouth to the throat.

O - this is big on malt goodness. Personally I love malts just as much as hops. You definitely have to enjoy sweetness and a load of malts and some Oaked character to enjoy this one. Frankly I appreciate this lovely old ale from Founders. It's a fantastic brew that requires the drinker to need a change of pace. I respect the brewer for reminding me its not only about the hops and Founders are the World's best at reminding us what good beer is.

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

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4.2/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

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4.1/5  rDev +2%

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3.94/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4.25/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Appearance
A toffee coloured ale, a vigourous pour only resulted in a thin tan coloured head. Very mildly carbonated, and virtually no lacings. Not surprising considering the style and the alcohol content.

Aroma
Big buttery toffee nose, pecan praline, alcohol, and a mild earthy spice all combine to get me pumped about this brew. Smells great!

Taste
Yup theres lots of buttery diacetyl here. Be warned, dont try this one if its a turn off to you. Big backbone of buttery toffee and a touch of treacle, the creamy pecan praline is also there, and its all complimented by the hint of earthy hop spice.

Mouthfeel
A rich, decadent, and warming due the alcohol, treat. A full bodied ale that while almost syrupy manages to avoid being cloying. Lots of rich flavours complimenting each other quite nicely in this old ale.

Drinkability
I found this to be a very drinkable, very rich, big ale. The big body and waming effect due to the alcohol make this a perfect choice for a cool winter night. May be a little too rich to be sessionable, but might be fun to try! Will definately be enjoying this tasty treat again.

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.02 out of 5 with 4,768 ratings
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