Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ratings:
4,718
Reviews:
1,311
Avg:
3.99
pDev:
10.53%
 
 
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218
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1,169
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Photo of Photekut
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of JoelClark
4.63/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.75

Photo of robwestcott
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of jmg480
3.99/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of PBRmeasap1980
3.85/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Tsar_Riga
3.83/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Hazy orange-brown with short white head, with lacing.

S - Wood, alcohol, caramel, toffee, molasses, including a touch of sulfur.

T - Follows the nose, with a strong oak hit, and foundational sweetness, burnt sugar elements, a touch of smokiness. Close returns the wood elements, and a powerful alcohol hit.

M - A bit of buttery slickness, with alcohol warming. Prickly close.

O - There are powerful and interesting elements, but ultimately, the feel and harsh alcohol taste in the close detract.

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Photo of brewcrew76
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled April 2012

A - Hazy amber with little head.

S - Boozy with wet oak and a hint of molasses.

T - Sweet malt with wet oak and alcohol.

M - Light carbonation, thick and almost syrupy.

D - This one needs some time. The wet oak is currently a little overpowering.

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Photo of BeerAndGasMasks
3.96/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From the bottle, it pours as a dark (but not black) old ale. Pours cloudy and an orangey amber with a moderate head. Sweetish but not overly so, it is an enjoyable beer. Enjoyable.

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Photo of augustgarage
3.95/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Obtained in trade from ShogoKawada (thanks!). Bottled February 2008? ABV is 9.8%. Poured from a 12oz bottle into a snifter. Lightly chilled.

Persian red liquid with some particles in suspension. Buff-tinged beige head, thin but with good retention and heavy, messy, sandy lacing and thin, clear, sluggish legs.

Heady fruit aromatics, partly reconstituted and carmelized: figs, apricots, raisins, with a hint of flowers and very light and leathery sherry-like oxidation.

Faint brandy barrel leads the palate, with honey, lavender (soap?), chewing tobacco, caramel malt, and toffee. A touch of spice from the alcohol I think - hops are surprisingly intact, contributing notable bitterness. Long finish with a bit of leather and complex malt.

Medium-bodied, mildly astringent, very warming, and slightly sap-like mouthfeel.

I'm curious how this ages - there are some notes that if emphasized would render it undrinkable, while others would make a delectable curiosity. Fresh, it is the peer of many (though not all) British examples I've sampled. Probably not the normal place to start my Founders journey, but I'll take what I can get :-).

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Photo of cadaugherty
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of scottbrew4u
4.29/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is an aged 2007 Curmudgeon I picked up at Flat Rock Saloon. Waited for a cold night to enjoy this one!
A: Dark amber color and hazy with mellow tan head that persists for awhile. Some sediment with this aged beer. Persistent tiny bubbles.
S: Aroma of dried black cherries soaked in bourbon, and sweet roasted malt with a touch of burnt honey. Some deeper dried fruit aromas combine with a hint of vanilla to smell delicious.
T: Burnt caramel and toffee malt sweetness with deep rich black cherry and dried currant esters. Some astringent chocolate malt bitterness is there midway. The follow up is a smooth vanilla bourbon barrel flavor which may or may not be intended. The vanilla is more apparent the further down this one goes. Alcohol becomes noticeable with this one. Not noticeable but for a hint of bitterness are the hops.
M: Medium bodied and smooth with small, sharp carbonation and a decent alcohol warmth on the palate.
D: Bang for your buck with this delicious beer! It has a smooth yet complex profile with plenty of alcohol to warm you on a cold winters night. Was glad to try this one more than a year aged.

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Photo of nh2032
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of rkarimi
4.18/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of IntriqKen
4.74/5  rDev +18.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Pours an opaque mahogany amber with a faint head that disappears quickly. Pours almost like syrup.
Aroma will change with ever degree that it warms. Ripe bananas...vanilla...rum....bourbon...sweet and complex.
Mouthfeel is thick and creamy with a nice ...no, wonderful warmth as you swallow.
Taste...ahhh...everything you smell along with some dark sweet fruits...plums...again vanilla, rum, boubon. Again, sweet and complex. As it warms even more ripe banana and rum and boubon flavors. Amazing. The oak or bourbon barrel aging done on this beer definitely works and works perfectly. All of the vanilla sweetness and richness you would expect from that is here and then some.
Aftertaste is chewy dark fruits and alcohol warmth.
Many thanks to CRJMellor for this trade.
EDIT:
Just had a second bottle of this on Nov 10th, 2006.
Everything that I found in the first except noticed a smokiness to the aromas this time I didn't note the first time.
This is an extremely complex Old Ale...sweeter than most and I love it.

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Photo of PG2G
3.75/5  rDev -6%

Photo of Skellbop
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of WillCarrera
3.74/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12 oz bottle, bottled on 4/26/2012, poured into a snifter.

A- Pours a nice amber brown, produces no head at all, zero, just a few bubbles.

S- Sweet aroma of caramel, fruit, and nuts, as it warms it becomes quite boozy.

T- Similar to the nose, very sweet and malty, lots of caramel, some honey, fruit and malty nuttiness, some bitter hops towards the finish. Has a strong alcohol flavor and accompanying burn towards the end.

M- Medium to full bodied, low carbonation, has a slick feel with alcohol burn.

O- A pretty decent beer, might need some more age on it, not my favorite from Founders by a long shot.

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3.75/5  rDev -6%

Photo of ClavisAurea
4.34/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle dated 1/13/15 served at cellar temps in a tulip glass.

Appearance: light red or copper with a nice one finger head that sank to a rim of foam. Love the bottle art of the old salty sailor.

Nose: malty and sugary sweetness, fruity hop aroma, scotch ale sweetness and malt character, found and full nose

Taste: rich and robust, fruity, slight hot alcohols rom the fusels, great mouthfeel and kinda referencing when freshly poured, coats the mouth when warmer and the carbonation has gone. Lingering fruity and slightly bitter finish.

Overall: hmmmm... I didn't get the molasses. I do see how the thick mouthfeel would suggest a thick and rich syrup. Missing key ingredient aside, I really liked this is a great old ale/barleywine. It is kinda annoying that American Brewers can't use the name barleywine. They have to say "barleywine-style ale". They say this can be aged for a bit for added complexity. The malty backbone and alcohol content suggest this is a good cellaring candidate. I'll hold on to the remaining 3 for a while and see how things change.

Cellar Review:
Same bottling date as stated above served at cellar temps in a tulip glass. 1 year 7 months old now.

This beer is strait up copper colored. Pretty clear but there is a lot of fine particulate sediment in the glass and a clingy and sticky pale white head. Lots of lacing. Super malty still but thats to be expected. I do get some of the oak this time and maybe a hint of the molasses. That scotch ale character is still there but that isn't a bad thing. There is a very, very slight fusel note left but it is not distracting at all. Low carbonation in the beer and when I poured from the bottle. Solid medium body but thin in the finish. Still a great beer. Sadly it is my last bottle. Farewell Old Founders friend.

Rating remains the same.

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Photo of BigTrubble
3.75/5  rDev -6%

Photo of DoctorB2B
3.68/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a beautiful copper with slight off-white head that was about a 1/4 inch. In looking at it more carefully, I find what looks like material suspended within the beer ... pretty cool.

S: First and only thing I really got was malt. No citrus to speak of, just malt

T: Alcohol smacked me in the face with the first sip. It wasn't overbearing, just didn't know it was coming. It's very thick and syrupy. Little bit of a fruit flavor, that I can't distinguish because of the overpowering warmth in my mouth.

M: Thick and viscous ... coated my mouth nicely.

D: I'll get another one and hold onto it for a long while .... let it get even older. I think perhaps this one was a bit too young.

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Photo of WesM63
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of ALC82
4.34/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of StoutElk_92
4.42/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottled 01/15/16

Pours a nice copper red amber with a creamy khaki colored head. Smells like malty molasses, oak, mild spice, dried fruit, hint of vanilla, biscuit, caramel, toffee, with mild pine and earthy grass. Tastes like smooth malty molasses, caramel, toffee, biscuit, vanilla, dried fruit medley, with earthy pine and dank grass. Feels medium bodied, creamy with moderate low carbonation. Overall a really tasty oak aged molasses old ale.

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Photo of JKV96
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
3.99 out of 5 based on 4,718 ratings.
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