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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
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4.02/5
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4,775 Ratings
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#3,210
Reviews:
1,326
Ratings:
4,775
pDev:
10.45%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
218
Gots:
1,180
Trade:
52
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Ratings: 4,775 |  Reviews: 1,326
Photo of heygeebee
3.69/5  rDev -8.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Not too sure how many Old Ales I have had...

Looks good, deep copper body, one finger head... Immediately into sweet aromas and taste, almost like a cross between a Quad and an English strong ale. Lots of brown sugar and malts and yes molasses. Really quite sweet overall. The alcohol comes thru... Was not aware of the high ABV but on drinking port notes are evident, as is alcohol burn. Unwelcome slightly astringent note on back palate.

Odd in some ways, tho, almost like a base strong beer had a ton of sugar added. Very late.

One to cellar methinks.

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Photo of rkarimi
4.18/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of ironchefmiyagi13
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of OKCNittany
3.58/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Photo of RoryOMoore
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of Rekrule
4.75/5  rDev +18.2%

Photo of dpgoblejr
4.69/5  rDev +16.7%

Photo of nlmartin
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of ChrisL24481
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of MaximumYuks
3.53/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of Czequershuus
4.29/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

This beer pours the color of dark buckwheat honey with a small head. The aroma is very like bourbon - very sweet, with vanilla, brown sugar and then notes of oatmeal, gigner, clove, and black tea. The flavor leads with cacao nibs, vanilla, molasses, raisin, nutmeg, cinnamon, nougat, cherry, and slight bitterness at the end. The mouthfeel is heavy, sticky, and rich with little carbonation. Overall this is a wonderfully complex, and rich, but with a great bitter undercurrent.

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Photo of MI_beerdrinker
4/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of ClavisAurea
4.34/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle dated 1/13/15 served at cellar temps in a tulip glass.

Appearance: light red or copper with a nice one finger head that sank to a rim of foam. Love the bottle art of the old salty sailor.

Nose: malty and sugary sweetness, fruity hop aroma, scotch ale sweetness and malt character, found and full nose

Taste: rich and robust, fruity, slight hot alcohols rom the fusels, great mouthfeel and kinda referencing when freshly poured, coats the mouth when warmer and the carbonation has gone. Lingering fruity and slightly bitter finish.

Overall: hmmmm... I didn't get the molasses. I do see how the thick mouthfeel would suggest a thick and rich syrup. Missing key ingredient aside, I really liked this is a great old ale/barleywine. It is kinda annoying that American Brewers can't use the name barleywine. They have to say "barleywine-style ale". They say this can be aged for a bit for added complexity. The malty backbone and alcohol content suggest this is a good cellaring candidate. I'll hold on to the remaining 3 for a while and see how things change.

Cellar Review:
Same bottling date as stated above served at cellar temps in a tulip glass. 1 year 7 months old now.

This beer is strait up copper colored. Pretty clear but there is a lot of fine particulate sediment in the glass and a clingy and sticky pale white head. Lots of lacing. Super malty still but thats to be expected. I do get some of the oak this time and maybe a hint of the molasses. That scotch ale character is still there but that isn't a bad thing. There is a very, very slight fusel note left but it is not distracting at all. Low carbonation in the beer and when I poured from the bottle. Solid medium body but thin in the finish. Still a great beer. Sadly it is my last bottle. Farewell Old Founders friend.

Rating remains the same.

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Photo of Braz
4.18/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Whoo this was a heavy beer.

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Photo of PhatAtUT
3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

Photo of moarmare
4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

Photo of rbrefbeerman
3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

Photo of tdmccarthy
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of kdivers
3.8/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Davit
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of bluntedboywonder
4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

Photo of delta490
4.15/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured a ruby brown with a slight creamy white head. No retention, almost not lacing. The aroma has a nice oak pungency with hints of molasses. The taste is awesome, with the ale flavors (caramel, dark fruit) in the forefront with just a hint of the oak providing a nice counter. There is a nice weight to the beer (my preference would have been a little thicker) and a pleasant silky feel to it. A great barrel-aged ale.

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Photo of Hopheadhiker
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of Tilley4
3/5  rDev -25.4%

Photo of kodt
4/5  rDev -0.5%

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.02 out of 5 with 4,775 ratings
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