Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
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4,743
Reviews:
1,319
Avg:
3.99
pDev:
10.53%
 
 
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219
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Not too sure how many Old Ales I have had...

Looks good, deep copper body, one finger head... Immediately into sweet aromas and taste, almost like a cross between a Quad and an English strong ale. Lots of brown sugar and malts and yes molasses. Really quite sweet overall. The alcohol comes thru... Was not aware of the high ABV but on drinking port notes are evident, as is alcohol burn. Unwelcome slightly astringent note on back palate.

Odd in some ways, tho, almost like a base strong beer had a ton of sugar added. Very late.

One to cellar methinks.

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[Suggested Glassware: Snifter]

The pour was a murky caramel brown with a slight reddish hue and an average (1-2 fingers) off white creamy head that was mostly lasting, reducing to a puddled film and medium collar with excellent sheets of sticky lacing.

The aroma was of a toasted biscuit malt and a sweet doughy yeast with notes of caramel, toffee, vanilla, dark fruit (raisons & cherries), oak cask and a little above mild scent of alcohol.

The taste was malty sweet with a decent touch of caramel and toffee early on, and then progressed with a mild yeast presence, a light fruitiness, a hint of oak and had a sweet alcohol finish. The flavor lasted an average duration after the swallow, with the malty sweetness and a slight alcohol warming left to linger on the taste buds a bit longer.

Mouthfeel was medium in body and syrupy in texture with a nice soft carbonation.

Overall what is there to be said but 'This brewer does it again". This is a really good brew, with a great balance and awesome taste...

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From: Binny's, Champaign, IL
Date: None on bottle, spring 2013 release
Glass: Founders snifter

Founders' Curmudgeon is a rather disappointing old ale, featuring a good, but fairly uncomplicated dark brown caramel-like sweetness with a bit of oak, both of which are rather quickly subsumed by the ethanol content of the beer. The alcohol becomes excessively apparent with warmth, detracting from the overall experience and enjoyment of this beer. I find myself asking, "was this intentional, or just a too-hot and quick fermentation/bottling/shipping schedule?" Founders suggests that this beer is "deceptively smooth and drinkable," on the 4-pack, but I'd heartily disagree. Nowhere near comparable to the effortless smoothness (that is, non-ethanol-detectable) and more complex flavors in, say, Hair of the Dog releases. Not one I'd pick up again.

Pours a 0.5cm tall head of beige-colored, small-sized bubbles, with below average retention of about twenty seconds, barely enough time to register that the head looked a bit frothy. The head fades to a thin ring around the glass, and leaves good lacing, a more than moderate number of large dots cling to the glass' sides. Beer's body is a dark golden orange color, almost brown, with reddish highlights; light brings out brighter golden orange hues with yellow highlights. Carbonation visible through the slightly hazy (20-30% opacity) body, low in number and moderate in activity.

Aroma of fairly heavy caramel-like sweetness, ethanol, and oak, only moderately robust, not nearly as expressive or complex as I was hoping.

The most notable flavors of the beer are heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness, a touch of toasted bread and oak, and big ethanol, which becomes more apparent the longer the sip lasts in the mouth. The front of the palate tastes moderate oak, medium-strong brown caramel-like sweetness, and light ethanol. Mid-palate detects flavors of strong ethanol, heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness, a touch of toasted bread and oak, but the somewhat harsh ethanol largely steamrolls the other flavors. Back of palate is largely of heavy/syrupy brown caramel-like sweetness with a bit of oak, which is quite pleasant, but then the ethanol largely obscures this with its flavor and heat. Aftertaste is primarily of ethanol, with a bit of light caramel sweetness hidden in the background.

Beer's body is medium-heavy, with carbonation of medium-low intensity, resulting in a lightly foamy (1/4), mostly smooth (3/4) mouthfeel that is appropriate for sipping a beer of this style. Unfortunately, ethanol is easily felt as heat in the nostrils and across the palate, and as a burning sensation on the throat. Though "only" 9.8% ABV, this feels like a much stronger beer; ethanol not well-hidden. Closes dry, with heavy stickiness lingering on the palate and lips.

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
3.99 out of 5 based on 4,743 ratings.
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