Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
4,759 Ratings
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

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4.25/5  rDev +5.7%

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4.09/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Served on tap in a snifter

Appearance – The beer is served a clear deep golden amber color with a small thick looking white head. The head fades rather slowly leaving a decent level of streaky lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma is of a sweet caramel and a decent level of a bready smell. Along with these aromas are some notes of darker fruits with some raisin and prune as well as some other sweet smells of toffee and molasses. Along with these smells are some oak and booze which combined with the rest to produce a sweet, warming and malty aroma overall.

Taste – The taste begins with a rather sweet and smooth taste. The taste is largest of a smooth bready and caramel flavor with hints of light roasted and dark fruits within. The roastiness get slightly stronger as the taste advances with the darker fruits of raisin and plum getting stronger as the taste advances as well. Some more boozy flavors start to work their way in more toward the middle of the taste with some nice molasses sweetness coming to the tongue as well. With the booze and the sweeter flavors that come to the tongue more toward the middle, and a little bit of an oaky, rum like flavor, that comes to the tongue at the end, one is left with a nice smooth and sweet warming flavor to be left on the tongue.

Mouthfeel –For a brew of almost 10 % abv it is very drinkable yet appropriate in style. The body of the beer is on the thicker side rather nicely accentuating all the sweet and malty flavors of the beer while the carbonation of the brew is on the lower side, which allows all the oaky, sweet, and malty flavors tons of time to linger on the tongue.

Overall – A very enjoyable sweet and malty brew. Just what an old ale should be.

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4.5/5  rDev +11.9%

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2013 Release 12 oz bottle poured aggressively into a pint seidel.

A: This ale appears light amber to red. A full two fingers of dense foam created a moderate lasting head. There was strong lacing throughout the mug. The overall look, however, did not quite do this full bodied ale it's proper justice.

S: The rich caramel malt was apparent as was the oaky nature of this ale. Notes of coffee and roasted malt hit the nostrils with a hint of the sweet molasses and almost a fruity twinge.

T: This ale is quite complex. The oaky, smokiness gives way to richly roasted malty goodness. As it warms, the sweet molasses and toffee flavor come out and a touch of citrus was a delightful twist. This is a very smooth, drinkable ale but was a touch hot on the tongue and a bit boozy. I did not find it bitter at all.

M: This ale was appropriately carbonated on the tongue and had a nice body that coated the mouth and throat.

O: This was a very pleasant ale that was quite complex. I appreciated the balance between the rich malty tones, sweet molasses, and oaky notes. The brew was a bit boozy, but overall, it was very drinkable. A good ale for the malt lover and Perfect for a cool evening.

Would recommend.

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4/5  rDev -0.5%

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3.75/5  rDev -6.7%

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3.5/5  rDev -12.9%

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Photo of BrownNut
4.09/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried this one in late 2012 and again after aging it nearly a year. The score for the fresh tasting is the one I use for the official score.


A - 4.0 - Rosy darker orange with a substantial cream colored fluffy head that endures for a respectable period.

S - 4.0 - Raisin Bran with honey drizzled on it like I used to eat as a kid: malty bran, raisins, honey. And a bit of booze. This seems to be standard for old ales.

T - 4.0 - Honey sweet, malty, with a bitter sharp element that I remember not liking last time. Still here, though at a lower level. Can't tell if this is hop bitterness or something else. A bit of warm alcohol fumes wafting up the throat.

M - 4.0 - Medium heavy mouthfeel. Leaves a sticky coating on the tongue.

O - 4.0 - I remember being disappointed at this when I had it a year ago due to the bitterness, which tasted wrong. I think it has faded some now. It's still there and still a bit unwelcome, but less noticeable. Otherwise it's pleasant but not overly complex. With that said, it's not too out of line with other old ales I've had. Maybe the bitterness was an attempt at another layer for the sake of complexity.

Verdict. I think it made sense to age it. I'll put another year on it and see what that does.


A - 3.5 - Looks like cloudy apple cider, not much head, and what there is doesn't last long at all.

S - 4.5 - Smells great. Very malty and kind of sweet. Reminds me so much of the smell of Raisin Bran with honey on it in my cereal bowl as a kid.

T - 4.0 - The malt from the aroma carries through and to a lesser extent the honey. What comes with it is a mild bitterness of the woody variety, almost with a bitter citrus peel hook at the back of the tongue but not quite. That lingers on the back of the tongue for five or ten minutes after finishing. This is part of what gives the beer its unique identity but is also something I'd like to see muted, which maybe I'll get via aging. I'm left with very pleasant mildly burny booze fumes drifting up my throat, the kind that keep you warm in cold weather.

M - 4.0 - Medium bodied, coats the tongue. Fights to go dry at the end but doesn't quite make it. Nice and interesting.

O - 4.0 - Really very nice. Chalk up another old ale for me. I have yet to have something called old ale that I dislike.

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
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