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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

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look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Tried this one in late 2012 and again after aging it nearly a year. The score for the fresh tasting is the one I use for the official score.


A - 4.0 - Rosy darker orange with a substantial cream colored fluffy head that endures for a respectable period.

S - 4.0 - Raisin Bran with honey drizzled on it like I used to eat as a kid: malty bran, raisins, honey. And a bit of booze. This seems to be standard for old ales.

T - 4.0 - Honey sweet, malty, with a bitter sharp element that I remember not liking last time. Still here, though at a lower level. Can't tell if this is hop bitterness or something else. A bit of warm alcohol fumes wafting up the throat.

M - 4.0 - Medium heavy mouthfeel. Leaves a sticky coating on the tongue.

O - 4.0 - I remember being disappointed at this when I had it a year ago due to the bitterness, which tasted wrong. I think it has faded some now. It's still there and still a bit unwelcome, but less noticeable. Otherwise it's pleasant but not overly complex. With that said, it's not too out of line with other old ales I've had. Maybe the bitterness was an attempt at another layer for the sake of complexity.

Verdict. I think it made sense to age it. I'll put another year on it and see what that does.


A - 3.5 - Looks like cloudy apple cider, not much head, and what there is doesn't last long at all.

S - 4.5 - Smells great. Very malty and kind of sweet. Reminds me so much of the smell of Raisin Bran with honey on it in my cereal bowl as a kid.

T - 4.0 - The malt from the aroma carries through and to a lesser extent the honey. What comes with it is a mild bitterness of the woody variety, almost with a bitter citrus peel hook at the back of the tongue but not quite. That lingers on the back of the tongue for five or ten minutes after finishing. This is part of what gives the beer its unique identity but is also something I'd like to see muted, which maybe I'll get via aging. I'm left with very pleasant mildly burny booze fumes drifting up my throat, the kind that keep you warm in cold weather.

M - 4.0 - Medium bodied, coats the tongue. Fights to go dry at the end but doesn't quite make it. Nice and interesting.

O - 4.0 - Really very nice. Chalk up another old ale for me. I have yet to have something called old ale that I dislike.

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a: Clear dark amber with a finger thick offwhite head which receded to even surface foam and nearly solid lacing.

s: Caramel malt.

t: Heavy caramel malt over hops and alcohol. Sweet taste with hop/alcohol balance reminds that this was made with molasses. Almost bourbonlike.

m: Full and smooth.

o: A fine fall-winter warming sipper, although Founders releases it in the Spring.

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Appearance: It has a nice deep hazy orange/brownish color to it. It has a nice beige head that dies down somewhat fast and leaves great lacing.

Smell: The aromas definitely give out hints of sweet molasses, brown sugar, dark fruit (raisins) toffee and some woody oak.

Taste: Like the aromas, it has some sweet molasses, toffee, some caramel, brown sugar, raisins and woody oak.

Mouthfeel: It has a low-med carbonation with a nice overall balance and feel.

Drinkability: It's a very smooth drinkable beer accompanied with great flavors and aromas.

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.02 out of 5 with 4,775 ratings
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