Curmudgeon | Founders Brewing Company

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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: English Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#6,609
Reviews:
1,344
Ratings:
4,825
pDev:
10.42%
 
 
Wants:
224
Gots:
1,181
Trade:
51
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Ratings: 4,825 |  Reviews: 1,344
Photo of Jeffgosia6
4.18/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Flavors of rasin, stewed fruits, perfect carbonation, nice color, nice abv at 9.8 without any alcohol kickback in the finish. Yum. Now I just wish I could pronounce it to tell others about it.

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Photo of entenduintransit
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Photo of jrc1093
3.96/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

2014 Vintage

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Photo of GreenBayBA
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of quadmad
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of Brenden
4.18/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Notes from 2012 and 2017 are eerily similar, and they wouldn't be much different from more recent tastings.

L: This one has a brassy edge to an otherwise thick, dense red-orange. It grows a fluffy copper-tinged head with lots of density to it and plenty of stick.
S: Sweetness on the nose, brown sugar and dark fruits with heavy malts, a whiff of heat, and a bit of spicy hops. Lots of complexity.
T: The complexity carries to the flavor, and I find it delicious rather than muddled. Sweet, a bit hoppy, bready, and tinny all at once, it really moves across the palate. Alcoholic heat is certainly present but not overwhelming. Spice, floral notes, lots of fruit and caramel, some molasses, and a bit of dough.
F: Smoother than one might expect in a medium body, plenty of bite with a light sting and, when fresh, a hint that it could go sticky or cloying but I find it stopping just short of doing so.

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Photo of TheCrowsEye
4.1/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of OliverWilde
2.7/5  rDev -33%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 1

2 year old bottle in tulip. Flavor kicks in half way through. Ring of foam and lacing all the way down. A lot of great flavors up front from the oak and malt which are there in the nose along with sweetness. The back end however is kind of watery and tasteless. I like that the nose is deceptively sweet while it's fairly dry tasting. I think perhaps a stronger hopping could enhance this beer's overall flavor.

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Photo of DutchcdnTEXAN
4.16/5  rDev +3.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of RaulMondesi
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Like Columbus sailing the ocean blue, this is epic. Rich, old flavors like your grandma playing plinko, I’m into this. All around solid like the one you took this AM.

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Photo of CitizenGenet
5/5  rDev +24.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Cellared for 13 months beyond the date of bottling.

Poured into a tulip glass. No head. Beautiful dark amber color with abundant sediment suspended throughout.

Figs, molasses, Kentucky bourbon, young Duoro wine, Christmas fruitcake. Sturdy malt on the back-end. A very special ensemble of flavors. Rich. Slow sipping required.

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Photo of mishi_d
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Spaceman_Jer
4.22/5  rDev +4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Cylinsier
4.45/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Tap

Pours clear amber, yellowish white film for a head retains indefinitely.

Aroma is rich caramel, molasses, biscuit, and toffee.

Tastes of biscuit, toffee, caramel, molasses, a bit of smoke, oak, bourbon, and tobacco.

Medium to full body, light tingly carbonation on the tongue. Booze warmth going down.

Very nice, rich flavor with a mix of sweet and earthy elements. A slow sipper but well worth the time.

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Photo of IckyT2012
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of SynthetikReality95
4.86/5  rDev +20.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Photo of Cthulhusquid
4.41/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Look: One finger white head, brown-orange body.

Smell: Same as below.

Taste: Brown sugar, tootsie roll, mild oak. A slight hint of dark fruits and vanilla.

Feel: Medium body and carbonation, balanced. Barely any hint of alcohol.

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Photo of beaulabauve
3.86/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of 1971bernat
4/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of IBUBrew
4.03/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of burk1982
3.24/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Photo of BenHoppy
5/5  rDev +24.1%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is a beer I had fresh and rated as a 4.4 but now that I have aged it for 20 months and come back to it, it is a totally different beer. This is definitely a 5 now for how complex it really is. So let's start with fresh:

It has a caramel scotch like appearance that also has a scotch aroma that has hinting flavors of scotch along with oaky vanilla chips, molasses, and caramel that pairs especially well with a good cigar. Furthermore it is very smooth and well balanced.

Now 20 months later I pour it into a snifter at cellar temp:

Tons of carbonation is left in the bottle, half the glass is filled with bubbly foam that quickly dissipates to a froth. It no longer looks like caramel scotch but it more so resembles a barley wine with its murky brown appearance.

The aroma is brown sugar, molasses barley wine malt with really no presence of scotch or oak. Almost resembles an English barley wine vs American barley wine

Now the flavors is the real kicker, instead of a caramel, scotch, oaky vanilla flavors I get now strawberry raspberry molasses dipped in chocolate with hints of maple and vanilla. what the hell? Where is the oaky scotch flavors? I can't taste oak at all. Is this the same beer? This has now turned into an almost dessert beer and no I would not recommend it with a cigar, but fresh cigar pairs well. Where did the strawberry and raspberry flavors come from? This is why it deserves a 5. There's more to this beer than drinking it once. Come back to it and the whole dynamics of it change. Almost reminded me of a J.W. Lee barley wine for its complexity. Good work Founders! Cheers!

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Photo of craftaholic
3.41/5  rDev -15.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Hmm... Bottled a year ago. Everyone says this gets better with age. Never had one fresh but this is okay.

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Photo of bcwitko1986
4.21/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Photo of Luscious_Malfoy
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Curmudgeon from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.03 out of 5 with 4,825 ratings