Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BA SCORE
4.02/5
4,761 Ratings
Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ranking:
#3,118
Reviews:
1,323
Ratings:
4,761
pDev:
10.45%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
219
Gots:
1,181
Trade:
52
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Ratings: 4,761 |  Reviews: 1,323
Photo of tedsox31
4.32/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 12 oz bottle into a pint glass. The color is a darker amber color with a medium head that dissipates stubbornly and leaves some lacing down the side.

Smells of caramel, spices, toffee, and some fruit. Smells good.

The taste is sweet, of malt, caramel, and coriander. There is not much of a hop presence until after I swallow, in which it then lingers. The coriander comes through as it warms, and I do not taste much of an alcoholic presence despite the abv.

This is a clean, medium-carbonated feel, and not too heavy.

A very quaffable beer. Probably wouldn't want more than a couple because of the deceptive abv. More of a "sipper". I'll be enjoying the rest of this 4 pack.

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Photo of mpedara429
4.32/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A: Poured out a copper color with one finger of a orangy tan head. Not much lacing or retention to speak of.

S: A very sweet caramel and oak aged smell. There are also some fruity notes like raisins and over-ripened strawberries.

T: Very much like the smell, but not as sweet and potent. There is a nice earthy hoppiness balancing out the immense sweetness that could've been imagined by the smell. There is a fair amount of booziness.

M: Medium, sticky body that is a bit creamy. Medium-light carbonation. Surprisingly lighter and smoother than expected.

O: Better than some of the other Old Ales I've had. I like the lack of sweetness in the taste of Carmudgeon. Old Ales tend to be very sweet for me, but this one had a nice balance to it. Normally, I'd be one and done with an Old Ale, but I could see myself wanting a couple of these in a session.

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Photo of mikecharley
4.32/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 3.5

Pours out of the twist top into a balloon glass. Appears dark and murky copper, with a twinge of red. Really no head to speak of, save a ring of tan around the edge. Leaves no lace, however the style rarely does.

Nose is of sweet malts and some brandy-ish alcohol (only a little). Also some dark fruits are present(very subtle). Prunes, figs, raisins, some plum and cherry in there too.

The taste is wonderful. There's some wood in there as well... Gotta love this. Dark fruits as the nose would suggest. Some subtle vanilla as well.

The feel is right on for the style. Just in between medium and full bodied. Seriously perfect.

The 9.8 gets to you by the end of the glass, and the alcohol presence should mask itself after a while in the cellar to improve this aspect.

Overall a great brew. I am going to immediatly seek out a case for the cellar to see how this champ does!

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Photo of Grupatre
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Mikecd234
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of AdamValentine
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of NuckleDragger
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

A: Pretty brownish/red copper color

S: Caramel and molasses. Almost like a fruitcake. Ripe bananas.

T: The molasses and wood age come through great. Taste like you're eating a piece of grandmas banana nut bread.

M: Very full mouth feel with just the right amount of carbonation.

O: Another solid seasonal from Founders. Never tasted a beer with these specific traits. Excellent. Plus, it helped me pick out a new nickname for the old lady.

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Photo of goingbrokeonbeer
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

This is a 2014 bottle that pours a dark brown color with just a cap of head. Smell is wonderful, molasses, vanilla, malt, and some dark fruits. Taste is bready malt, molasses, and vanilla. A medium mouthfeel for a just all around nice brew.

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Photo of scottfrie
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle into snifter. Thanks for sending me a few of these jbck109.

A: Pours a murky burnt orange with a thin cream colored head that faded to fuzzy lace.
S: Huge notes of vanilla with sweet hints of burnt caramel, raisins, spicy hops and mild cocoa powder.
T: Follows the nose with very smooth flavors of brown sugar, toasted malts, caramel, vanilla, peppery spices with a mild hoppiness in the finish. Sweet mild chocolate, a touch of dark fruits and candied sugar, figs, and chocolate brownies round off my list of nouns and adjectives. The aftertaste is lightly bitter with leafy hops. Really complex and delicious.
M: Alcohol is slightly warming in the finish over a full body, soft and sticky mouthfeel with fluffy soft carbonation.
O: I really enjoyed this one. It was complex and very well integrated and balance. Very easy to drink, glad I have one more. Thanks again Jay!

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Photo of elm_tree
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of stompilator
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 12oz. bottle into a tulip.

A - Poured a deep, opaque red, thin, crispy head.

S - Oak, booze, a little bit of esters, and a wee bit of hops.

T - The oak flavor is definitely dominant, especially up front. Some plummy, berry-esque esters follow along with the thick sweetness from the molasses. Buttery, bready notes come from the malt near the end, with some earthy hops and residual boozinessrounding out the finish.

M - Medium-bodied, easy carbonation.

O - Tons of layers to this particular brew, very sweet in so many ways.

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Photo of Lodisgrisen
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.5

Photo of Steve_Studnuts
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Photo of AdmiralOzone
4.31/5  rDev +7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a clear dark amber in color with a decent amount of ivory head that dissipates to a thin layer of small lacy bubbles. The aroma is caramel, molasses, and oak. A bit of vanilla joins into the mix in the flavor. A winner from Founders to be sure.

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Photo of Bay01
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter from 12oz bottle

A - Pours a cloudy orange/ amber with tinges of ruby in the light, two finger head with some sticky lacing

S - Smell is fruit, butter, molasses, and toffee. Fruitier smell than I was expecting

T - Fruity and buttery, the alcohol isn't noticeable at first but then is evident at the finish, some tobacco aftertaste.

M - Relatively high level of carbonation for an old ale, not syrupy but slight chewiness. Body is full and smooth.

D - Surprisingly high due to the pleasant and balances fruitiness, the alcohol doesn't feature prominently so I could have a few of these.

This is unexpected in a good way for the style, could be dangerous due to the ABV

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Photo of Beernoobie
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of jim102864
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Part of a trade with Hoppymeal. Cloudy, burnt orange appearance in my Chimay goblet. I poured a little fast which mixed in some yeast, not that I mind it. It's 9.8 abv in a small 12 0z bottle.

Not much of anything in the nose but what a buttery, semi-sweet flavor with a slight alcohol burn in the finish. It takes a while but a butterscotch nose appears as it warms. I like this. Slight butterscotch and vanilla and while the hops are muted, they add a tangy bitterness still. Creamy and smooth mouthfeel.

This could be a session beer if you've got nowhere to go and yer UConn Huskies or Red Sox are one the plasma. A real smooth finish yet well balanced and flavorful. A worthy brew that I hope to score again

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Photo of HopHunter19
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A - dark copper murky beer, no head and therefore no lacing
S - musty, leather, tobacco, vanilla, caramel, toffee, butterscotch
T - musty, leather, dark fruits, tobacco, caramel, vanilla, bitter earthy hops
M - heavy, alcohol completely covered, aftertaste is musty, old, wholesome malts
O - great beer, bottled 1/14/15 drank 12/12/15, age is good for this one

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Photo of natemort13
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a hazy mahogany copper color. Head is tan and what head there is recedes quickly.

Nose is carmel, oak, booze, slight floral notes, molasses, smells like whiskey.

Taste follows the nose but presents bigger notes of cherry and more oak. Super malty beer, super boozy. Notes of fig and raisin as well. Long oaky finish.

Mouthfeel is full and slightly syrupy. Carbonation is detectable but not super present.

Overall this is a delicious big old ale!

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Photo of jbone78
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

I got these through trade with marvin312.I have had this one since March 9. This is the date I wrote on the bottle. I am drinking it because I noticed a small amount of oxidation and I recommend waxing Founders bottles.

A- It looked clear in the bottle. It poured muddy orange/red into my snifter. Small amount of head, laces ok.
S- Very oaky smell. I really like the smell of oak in a beer.
T- Oak, spice, sweet malt favors. I like the taste of this beer, but not sure it fits the Ole ale genre. Maybe it does? Either way, I like it.
M- Not super malty, smooth, unlike Ole ales.
D- Very easy drinking beer. I am only going to call this one ale from now on. I deserves it!
Nice ALE!

-Bye

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Photo of cmcquirk
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of Salinesnake
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of brutusmuktuk
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a murky copper color with a very weak head. Has a malty aroma, with light hints of fruit. Feels heavy like molasses, and has a lightly sweet molasses and malty flavor. There is a hint of bitterness at the end to offset the subtle sweetness. Very enjoyable, complex ale.

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Photo of TheFlern
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks MaxSpang

Appearance: A beautiful amber. White head dissipates to a thin layer with poor lacing. Not really what I expect from the style.

Smell: Its sweet, a little fruity perhaps pear? Sort of like a Belgian yeast? Not sure. The oak comes through a lot. The molasses is in very good balance with the oak. Just how it should be for this beer imo. For the style this is pretty good.

Taste: Follows the nose. More sweet than oak which is disappointing.

Mouthfeel: Light, sweet, low carbonation, low bitterness, goes down quick. Not what I would expect from the style so I'm going to score it lower. However, I find it very drinkable for the ABV, wow.

Overall: Not something I'd go out of my way for. However, if you haven't tried it before then don't pass it up!

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Photo of Jho3325
4.3/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2013 Release 12 oz bottle poured aggressively into a pint seidel.

A: This ale appears light amber to red. A full two fingers of dense foam created a moderate lasting head. There was strong lacing throughout the mug. The overall look, however, did not quite do this full bodied ale it's proper justice.

S: The rich caramel malt was apparent as was the oaky nature of this ale. Notes of coffee and roasted malt hit the nostrils with a hint of the sweet molasses and almost a fruity twinge.

T: This ale is quite complex. The oaky, smokiness gives way to richly roasted malty goodness. As it warms, the sweet molasses and toffee flavor come out and a touch of citrus was a delightful twist. This is a very smooth, drinkable ale but was a touch hot on the tongue and a bit boozy. I did not find it bitter at all.

M: This ale was appropriately carbonated on the tongue and had a nice body that coated the mouth and throat.

O: This was a very pleasant ale that was quite complex. I appreciated the balance between the rich malty tones, sweet molasses, and oaky notes. The brew was a bit boozy, but overall, it was very drinkable. A good ale for the malt lover and Perfect for a cool evening.

Would recommend.

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.02 out of 5 with 4,761 ratings
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