Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

BEER STATS
Ratings:
4,717
Reviews:
1,310
Avg:
3.99
pDev:
10.53%
 
 
Wants:
218
Gots:
1,169
For Trade:
52
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Ratings: 4,717 |  Reviews: 1,310
Photo of Michands
2.3/5  rDev -42.4%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

A- Common, I really never judge on appearance.

S- Negativity bitterness of oak flavor

T- Awry for old ale and oak aged. Too bland.

M- Nothing much exciting. Nearly none flavor except flavor of oak

O- Wouldn't recommend. So bland. Except high ABV which is benefit for NASCAR redneck fans.

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Photo of Steasy66
2.44/5  rDev -38.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 1 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Half a 12oz bottle into a small snifter

A- Deep garnet, zero head
S- Smells like a European macro-lager, really surprising for a beer this big.
T- Starts sweet, finishes crisp, a bit of vanilla in the middle. Not bad, just nothing noteworthy here.
M- Fairly thick, good carbonation
O- This beer is just bland. A big surprise from such a great brewery. I had a 3 year old version of this a few weeks back and thought it was terribly bland but figured it was past its prime. Its a bit better fresh, but not much.

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Photo of heddar33
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of raymo55
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of Klealynn
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of protton
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of Nihilistkid
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of AmandaSchaefer
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of steggie
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of Kgristoff
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of seeswo
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of lswilma
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of CaptDavyJones
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%

Photo of moot2142
2.5/5  rDev -37.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Photo of sedotakj
2.51/5  rDev -37.1%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.25 | overall: 2.5

Overly strong ale. Very little taste of molasses. Not a bad brew but not one I'll be looking for again.

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Photo of CaptJackHarkness
2.52/5  rDev -36.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 2

From twelve ounce bottle states bottled 04/13/12.

This beer is a New style for me and I was not sure what to expect. Also, from the date, perhaps too old old ale! That said,
Aroma was a boozy, sweet caramel. Poured headless , cloudy ruddy body. Holding to light shows floating particulates. Taste is alcoholic and bitter/acidic. Overall : Nasty!

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Photo of Minkybut
2.55/5  rDev -36.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I poured this awful beer into my tumbler at 45 degrees. The beer was the color of gasoline. The beer poured with no head at all. The beer smelled sour and had a sour taste that was not pleasant at all. Little bit of a burn to it and earthy tasting. I will not buy again.

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Photo of BlindPig
2.56/5  rDev -35.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

A- Thin off white head. Cloudy brown body with a bit of amber in it. Basically no lacing.
S- Strong alcohol. Almost like perfume. Some rich fruits and other rich smells. Can't really pin point it since it's not a pleasant smell at all.
T- The taste really follows the smell. Not in a bad way. Light alcohol. Has the perfume taste. It's really different and not to good.
M- Medium to full body very light carbonation.
D- Don't like this at all and don't see me making it all the way through.

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Photo of gjoker321
2.57/5  rDev -35.6%
look: 2.75 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.75

Photo of oregonduck
2.58/5  rDev -35.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Smell is different than the taste. Smells a bit odd and sour, with some spice. Yet taste is very malt forward and overwhelmingly sweet, with a bit of a spiciness. Sweetness lingers on the finish. No noticeable hop presence to balance it out. Hard to finish as it is so sweet and strong. WNBA.

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Photo of Murchmac
2.6/5  rDev -34.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Thanks to zealot for this suprise beer in a trade, I think.

Pours a thick Honey Brown with lots of floaties in this bottle. Didn't know or look out to see sediment.

Smells like an old ale but kinda boozy. Like the drunk at the bus stop.

This might not be fair because all those yeasty floaties are giving it a very bitter taste??!! Not too good in my book.

I think this might not be too fair because the beer may have been poured wrong, but good beer should be idiotproof. The more I drink the worse it gets, so it might not be me. No soup for you!

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Photo of corby112
2.61/5  rDev -34.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours a murky dark chestnut brown color with a slightly yellowish jaundiced looking hues with a thin beige head that quickly disappears leaving no lacing.

Very earthy, swampy aroma with a little bit of creek water and old boot. Slight chocolate maltiness with subtle hops and a sweet alcohol presence which is very strong.

Again, the flavor is very earthy and leathery with a strong sweet alcohol presence, leathery maltiness, subtle hops, slight chocolate, brown sugar and dirt. There's also a strange vegetable presence with is quite unpleasant and a dirty bitter finish.

This was quite a disappointment for me especially since I love pretty much everything from Founders and enjoy the occasional old ale. I will have to revisit again in the future.

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Photo of dedrinker
2.64/5  rDev -33.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 4 | overall: 1.5

Dark amber color. I smelled like caramel and cocoa butter.

The flavor was a mash up of Nutella, vanilla, cheap milk chocolate and caramel, more cocoa butter, macadamia nuts etc.

Full bodied, and the finish just kept bringing on the flaver mentioned above to make a beer that I had to dump out.

the over all impression was one of numerous artificial flavors.

I bought two bottles, and I refuse to touch the other one.

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Photo of cokes
2.65/5  rDev -33.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 2.5

Rusty peach-brown colored with little head development or lacing and loads of suspended particles.
The nose brings dry toffee, apricot, pineapple. But these are all muted by the papery, peppery oak. This also brings sub-bourbon notes of vanilla cream, butter, and hazelnuts. Muted is the key word, as paper/wood/oak and grain booze are the two major aromas, everything else is fleeting, indistinct, and ephemeral.
Caramel shows up more in the mouth, along with walnuts, and peanut skins. Oak brings burnt butter, vanilla, and bourbon-esque black cherry. But once again, the flavor profile thins immediately. Oak is more responsible for paper and bland pepperiness. Booze is notable, and seems to suggest sherry, but is equally devoid of gumption. Late black tea and cigarette ash notes.
Full bodied, lowly carbonation. So, basically how an Old Ale should be. I wish this was the norm rather than the exception.
I feel like I'm drinking this through a flavor-filter. A 9+% oak aged Old Ale, and all I can experience is paper, water-logged butter-caramel, and grain alcohol. It's like that very last, weakest sip of a Beam of the rocks.

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Photo of RichardMNixon
2.67/5  rDev -33.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Copper body with yellow-white lace. Enticing smells of oak, vanilla, toffee, and chocolate pudding. Taste is a let down. Reminds me of cheap bourbon: woody, stale, and soapy. Possibly the 'chewiest' beer I've ever had with a metallic twitch at the end.

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3.99 out of 5 based on 4,717 ratings.
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