Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Old ale brewed with molasses and oak-aged.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

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Reviews: 1,300 | Ratings: 4,686
Photo of BeerManDan
4.3/5  rDev +7.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

When poured into a glass the color was amber with an orange hue, with very little tan foam. The smell had a sweet roasted malty aroma, with a hint of oak and coriander? The taste had a sweet/tart finish of sweet malts, with a candy finish. Overall, sweet, tart and a very good and lingering aftertaste.

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Photo of NotAlcoholicJustAHobby
4.14/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Bottled 01/04/16

L- The beer pours reddish brown which appears more red when light is shown through it. The head is a fluffy 3 fingers of off white foam.
S-The nose if full of molasses and plum.
T- The first thing noted is the molasses and faint vanilla sweetness. The dark fruit sweetness takes over and the beer finishes with a touch of drying hop bitterness and alcohol warmth.
F-Carbonation is light despite the towering head on the initial pour. The overall mouthfeel is medium.
O- This is a fine old ale. One that I would drink over and over. Highly recommended.

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Photo of jakecattleco
3.87/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle dated 01/04/16 into a tulip glass. Pours a copper amber with two fingers of variable density white head that left nice lacing. Nose is sweet, definitely hints of molasses. Taste reminds me of a Wee Heavy, definitely wanted more barrel character. Mouthfeel is good, very easy drinking, carbonation fine, and the finish slightly sweet and lingers. Not sure what to make of this one. Its good, but left me wanting much more barrel influence.

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Photo of mntlover
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a copper color with a touch of red, bottle conditioned as plenty of little floaters around. Khaki colored small head falls fast but does leave some spotty lace.

Aroma malty goodness, dark fruity notes, molasses and spice. Some earthy like notes slight alcohol twang and seems like touches of cinnamon. The oak aged just come off as vanilla more then woody even though it probably adds to the dryness.

Taste is like the nose but bigger lots of malt, sugary molasses, dark fruits adding to the sweetness. Earthy and vanilla with touches of alcohol, oak and some hops come out to make sure it doesn't move to cloying. Nice pretty spot on for an old ale made for sipping goodness. A malty good treat with just enough hops to keep it from being cloying.

Mouthfeel is kind of light for big beer say medium or maybe a touch more. Carbonation is fairly mellow also.

Overall an nice old ale little more fruity and spicy then most, also little less hop kick. But overall an enjoyable treat.

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Photo of HamdenHector
4.1/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A; opaque; an orangish bronze; 1 finger khaki head that receded to a thin collar; little lacing;

S: vanilla, alcohol, molasses, sweet malt;

T: molasses and oak up front; dark fruit in the middle; finish is very mildly bitter; alcohol is warming at the end;

M: medium bodied; moderate carbonation; moderately dry finish;

O: considering the 9.8% ABV, this is pretty smooth;

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Photo of Obake21
3.9/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

L = Nice dark amber with a large light beige head.
S = Subdued sweet malt smell.
T = Light malt and bitterness on the end. Not too terribly interesting, but not bad tasting.
F = Light carbonation.
O = I thought there would be a little more to this one, but still not bad a bad drink.

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Photo of StoutElk_92
4.42/5  rDev +10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Bottled 01/15/16

Pours a nice copper red amber with a creamy khaki colored head. Smells like malty molasses, oak, mild spice, dried fruit, hint of vanilla, biscuit, caramel, toffee, with mild pine and earthy grass. Tastes like smooth malty molasses, caramel, toffee, biscuit, vanilla, dried fruit medley, with earthy pine and dank grass. Feels medium bodied, creamy with moderate low carbonation. Overall a really tasty oak aged molasses old ale.

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Photo of Chris_the_Tartar
3.86/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Look- Somewhat opaque dark amber, little to no head
Smell- Malt. Malt. Malt. Maybe a hint of rye.
Taste- Oak, maple syrup, molasses, honey, toffee, malt
Feel- Slick, oily almost sticky
Overall- A strong beer for strong men (and women!). Drinking this makes me feel like a lumberjack slurping maple syrup right out of a tap in the tree. A bit sweet for my tastes, but it won't be a struggle to get through the rest of the 4 pack.

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Photo of MizzouBrew
4.29/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a nice reddish orange color with a thick puffy tan head. Incredible sticky lacing. Thick mouthfeel and boozy, no hiding the alcohol in this one.

Using the Begnel formula, the Alcohol Score is 12 oz. x 9.8% = 117.6, or 2.3 Bud Lights.

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Photo of BSiegs
4.35/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Dark reddish in color, ample light tan head. Retention and lacing are excellent. The aroma is very pleasant. Sweet malts, caramel, molasses, dark fruits, slight alcohol. Taste is similar and complex. Molasses, dark fruit, sweet malt. The oak comes out a bit in flavor as well. Slight hop flavor and bitterness. The body is medium-full, low-moderate carbonation. Slightly bitter and alcohol is present on the swallowl. Really excellent.

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Photo of SuomiHobbit
3.25/5  rDev -18.5%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Flavor and mouthfeel are fine on the way down...then the bourbon flavor wrecks the whole deal. Bourbon aroma is not enjoyable. High alcohol is fairly well hidden.

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Photo of ONovoMexicano
3.86/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

12 ounce bottle into a snifter.

I had this a couple of years back and felt the urge to revisit with it being in New Mexico.

Flavor and aroma treat me to raisiny, dried fruit and light flora notes. Very consistent from nose to tongue. Funny that this has molasses added because I think more of maple. Either way, there's a sticky, dry sweet flavor there.

There's a pretty potent hop profile on the finish that takes things grassy and herbal. Age would probably tone that down and serve this beer well.

This beer feels like something I need about six ounces of maximum.

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Photo of matcris
4.34/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

APPEARANCE: It's a fairly clear red/ruby. About a half finger of khaki, soapy head that settles down to a ring after a few minutes. Great carbonation when I rock the glass. Leaves spotty lacing down the glass.
AROMA: Smells quite sweet. A little alcohol note. Big molasses, cherries, leather, candied sugar, fruitcake- nice big bready qualities. And a tea like note, which might account for the oak.
TASTE: Sweet up front. That big molasses and fruitcake kick in right off the bat. Leaves a pleasant mild bitterness on the finish. Yup, tastes like a booze soaked fruitcake, with a molasses glaze.
FEEL: Syrupy, sticky, full body, dries on finish. Medium carbonation, not flat at all.
OVERALL: A nice big sipper, full bodied and quite tasty.

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Photo of Hyptochrons
4.01/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

oak and sweet molasses on the nose. some fruity notes, cherry and light berry with a touch of spice.

taste is dark fruits up front and a bit of oak, nice blend of malts and a bit of alcohol. good mouthfeel, although a bit light.

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Photo of ManapuaMan
4.06/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Leather tobacco pouch, canvas rope, rusty anchor...says the label. Not far from reality, though - aroma and taste of molasses, roasted malt, caramel, tobacco and tea. Deep, rich taste that ends with a bit of alcohol heat. Big beer with an excellent, robust flavor profile with a taste of oak and spice. Complex and delicious.

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Photo of RyanK252
4.35/5  rDev +9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

On tap at BC's Pizza & Beer

A: Pours deep copper amber with a creamy tan head that settles to a light layer and leaves some very nice lacing.

S: Deep sweet fruity notes, hints of berry, dark sugars, subtle spice, and a little oak.

T: Sticky, fruity, dried cherry, plum, blackberry, fig, golden raisin, peach, nice oak presence, honey, toffee, burnt sugar, a bit earthy, mild spice, hints of licorice and vanilla, and slightly toasty bready malt.

M: Full body, moderate carbonation, smooth with a pleasant mild warmth.

O: I don't have a lot of experience with this style, but I thoroughly enjoyed this one. Now I have to track down some bottles.

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Photo of Motleydrunk56
3.85/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

12oz bottle poured into a Anchor Steam glass Smell is oak,kind of spicy.Taste is sweet an spicy.Overall it`s ok but not really my cup of tea.Don`t think I would buy again.

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Photo of prost2hefeweizen
4.13/5  rDev +3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

L - pored red body with white head into a tulip glass
S - caramel, oak, wood, smokey
T - earthy, oak, sweet finish
F - light coat, smooth with low carbonation
O - first of this style beer I've had. Really enjoyed it. Earthy oak with sweet finish

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Photo of CoreyC
3.78/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Aged 1 year
A - really nice orangey hue with a strong head
S - nice slightly sweet aroma
T - a bit sharp with no sweetness of the aroma and a very harsh finish
M - nice thickness
O - not as good as I would have thought after a year, will definitely let the rest sit for a while

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Photo of Tonyjenlasc
4.4/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Look - Dark amber, almost brown color.
Smell - Oak, molasses, spice, earth, toffee
Taste - Tons of oak comes thru from the barrel. Sweetness from the molasses, toffee type flavors, hints of dark fruits
Feel - Slight hints of the 9.8 but hidden well. Very drinkable for the ABV

Overall - A very enjoyable beer! A real nice sipper.

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Photo of EZE123
4.22/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

I've seen this beer on shelves for several years and I finally tried it...delicious! The English style old Ale is a perfect match for the molasses and oak aging. If you standing in the beer aisle and you don't know what to buy, grab this and you won't be disappointed.

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Photo of FBarber
3.99/5  rDev 0%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Pours a clear, crisp dark amber color with a thick tan head that dissipated but left some lovely lacing along the top.

Smells strongly of oak, malt and spices. Taste is very oaky up front - if you could brew wood, this is what it would taste like. Also get lots of malts and some spice, bit of a bitter finish. This beer is pretty carbonated, and it masked some of the distinct flavors for me. Otherwise very smooth light beer - I actually liked that it was a lighter oak aged beer.

Overall, a interesting offering - love the oaken flavors in this ale, really good - well worth trying.

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Photo of LAp
4.2/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into a tulip. Pours an almost clear ruby-amber (lighter than expected given the depth of the nose). A think 3 finger head quickly rises and recedes slowly, leaving gorgeous lacing. Rich oak and molasses right off the bat. Scotch and bourbon notes round out the nose, with a hint of dark fruit (dark grape and cherry). Nosed from the somewhat more open rim of the tulip however, lighter notes come through (hop, pine, and even a vague hint of raspberry). Palate is oak, loads of malt, with a hop bite on the backend that is unexpectedly prominent. Mouthfeel is closer to thin or medium than the thicker, chewy beer I would have anticipated, certainly lighter than expected. Overall not quite was I was predicting when I cracked the cap, but a good beer nonetheless. I would have appreciated a little more body, and a little more oak in the character, but it's a beer that's true to the style without exemplifying its highlights in any unique ways. I would have to try another bottle though to really resolve my feelings on whether or not the thinness of the body and lack of nuance of the malt palate weigh this beer down to a lower rating that I've given it here.

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Photo of ivehadthatbrew
3.82/5  rDev -4.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Look (3.75): Slight haze to it with an amber brownish and ruby hue. Not a massive carbonation to it. Small sticky head.

Smell (3.5): An oaky and maple syrup like kind of aroma. Some floral notes, maybe a bitter like coffee smell, but neither are intense. Some vanilla and coconut from the wood.

Taste (3.75): Again, a ton of oakiness everywhere. At first you're hit with big caramel malty flavors. There are big bready and perhaps cherry notes in there, but not estery fruit ones. Some slight bitterness and black pepper spice at the end. Some vanilla and coconut from the wood.

Mouthfeel (4.5): This is the best part. I'm fairly certain the oak used in this is lightly toasted American Oak. You get those classic coconut and vanilla smells out of it. This also gives it a very smooth and creamy mouthfeel as it warms up. Very nice =)

Overall (4): This seems like a cool brew that would get pretty interesting as it ages. I'll have to experience with it more that way.

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Photo of Ikeithbot
4.33/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

hazed slightly murky dark brown beer with very little head. pretty much what one expects from an old ale.
the aroma contains tangy vanilla, caramel, something like a roasted coconut, soft bourbon, toffee, a little booze, that nice "aged" aroma (don't know how better to describe it, but it's not oxidation), oak and some fruity vinous characteristics maybe like raisins... in no particular order.
the taste moves in about exactly the direction i want it to judging form the smell. vanilla bourbon oak, but not in the overdone, masking way that it seems to be used sometimes. caramel and toffee make their appearance spiced raisin flavors here to,but pretty minimal taking a back seat to a lot of maltyness.
soft, slick coating mouthfeel, medium bodied, with minimal carbonation.
good drinkability the alcohol is present, but never burns or becomes abrasive, it just stays pleasant and warming.

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