Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale)

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States

Style: Old Ale

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 9.80%

Availability: Rotating

Notes / Commercial Description:
Think classic seafaring ports, local pubs and weathered old fishermen. This old ale is brewed with molasses and an insane focus on the malt bill. Then Oak-Aged. The result is a rich, malty delight that's deceptively smooth and drinkable.

50 IBU

Added by BeerAdvocate on 08-31-2005

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Photo of MonkeyPilates
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of pootz
3.8/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Something special for a great warmer on this cold October evening.

Poured an opaque dark brown ale in the glass with a 1 finger tan cap that reduced to a surface clinging lace .

Aromas of dark dried fruits, mustiness oak barreld whisky.

Thick malt spine, oily mouth feel, rich complex boozy character.

Up front you chew on some thick date muffins then a rush of complex layered flavors: raisins, vanilla with coconut, white chocolate, cherries in brandy over the smokey oak -earthy musty tones...finishes up long and wet where the hops attack the complexity and the alcohol shows up, the result is near an oak barreld burbon flavor in the finish.

This ale delivers quite a lot of strength and flavor and comes off like a burbon whisky flavored barley wine....very nicely done.

My sample was fairly young but I bet some time in the cellar would really mellow this and bring out even more complexity

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Photo of Tsar_Riga
3.83/5  rDev -4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Hazy orange-brown with short white head, with lacing.

S - Wood, alcohol, caramel, toffee, molasses, including a touch of sulfur.

T - Follows the nose, with a strong oak hit, and foundational sweetness, burnt sugar elements, a touch of smokiness. Close returns the wood elements, and a powerful alcohol hit.

M - A bit of buttery slickness, with alcohol warming. Prickly close.

O - There are powerful and interesting elements, but ultimately, the feel and harsh alcohol taste in the close detract.

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Photo of goblue3509
3.85/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a very dark black like color with no head. The aroma is of a maple syrup and caramel malt backbone with dark fruits (raisins, dates, and figs) present and a touch of some breadiness. The taste is of a maple syrup backbone on top with dark fruits and some caramel with a slight taste of alcohol. The mouthfeel is thick with a slight amount of carbonation, it does sit a little heavy on the tongue. Overall the drinkability is okay for the style, it is very complex in nature and keeps you interested, a little thicker than some though.

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Photo of alleykatking
3.79/5  rDev -5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured from growler. Thanks Luke for once again sharing!

A- Poured a dark caramel color. Very little head pops up and turns into skim on the top of the beer. No real lacing but coats the glass...hmm.

S- Big time sweet malts in this one. Some brown sugar or molasses. As it warms up some vanilla somes into play. Light toffee and darker fruits make up the aroma.

T- Lots of sweet malts in the upfront of this both caramel and toffee. The darker fruits come in next but mix with a alcohol presence very well. Light oak flavor along with vanilla. A sweet alcohol in the backend of this.

M- Medium heavy mouthfeel. Carbonation was a little off and made the beer feel more heavy than what it was. Tons of malt left on the palate with some alcohol soaked plum in the aftertaste. Flavors were big and bold. Left my palate very dry after each sip.

D- This beer is always a struggle for me and I don't know why. I enjoy the taste but it is always a sipper for me. It is always a welcome for me but sometimes too much for me to finish. One of a few beers that is like that for me.

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Photo of Shafaegalo
3.64/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Photo of mentor
3.88/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle provided by deejaydan as part of BIF33. Thanks for the opportunity! Hard pour gets almost no head. Cloudy orange brown. Smells oranges, oaky, and caramel. Alcohol carries vanilla.

Tastes gentle oaky on a nice malt sweet. Vanilla and caramel. A touch of sherry. Oranges and cherry. Simple sweet and tasty. Gentle and clean alcohol sting. Thick creamy mouthfeel and almost no carbonation. Nothing special, just a solid offering.

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Photo of SaCkErZ9
3.22/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a Fat Tire snifter. No head forms. A cloudy, iced tea color beverages emerges. The faintest wisp of head is on top along with a small ring around the top of the beverage.

Smells strongly of bourbon whiskey. Smells almost like a bourbon and coke with a dash of coke. Some malty characteristics. Slight hints of vanilla and banana. Stong alcohol aroma as well. Smells a bit overwhelming but complex.

Bourbon and alcohol. Definitely needs to mellow.

Full bodied, dry finish. This was my first Old Ale, and I dont think I was ready for it. I love scotch, but was in the mood for beer. One of these, and I'll tap out, thank you.

Thanks to flyingbison for this Curmudgeon.

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Photo of ambruns1979
3.98/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of BeerAndGasMasks
3.96/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

From the bottle, it pours as a dark (but not black) old ale. Pours cloudy and an orangey amber with a moderate head. Sweetish but not overly so, it is an enjoyable beer. Enjoyable.

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Photo of NonicPanic
5/5  rDev +25.3%

Photo of budgood1
3.53/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

pours out of the 12 ounce stubby bottle a hazed crimson colour with a fair looking light tan head. bits of lace. aroma of some graininess, wood chips and some ripe red fruit...a bit of brown sugar and cocoa, too. nose is very subdued and delicate. taste is a nice combination of maple syrup, bourbon, overripe red fruits, and wood. some cocoa and nougat, too. sort of understated, nuanced and delicate again...but nicely balanced without a real boozy demeanor. a touch of hopping does give it layered aspect, and it does have the requisite belly warming attributes but not obnoxious at all. full bodied with a smooth and easy going mouthfeel. nice drinkability...a nice sipper.

overall a bit underwhelming for a big beer, especially an old ale. but it does have a great degree of approachability. not sure of the cellaring aspect...maybe i'll save the other two bottles out of the four pack for the winter solstice, as this hit the spot on the summer solstice; a terribly cold, wet, rainy and windy day here in the northland.

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Photo of Corson
3.67/5  rDev -8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Shawner
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of garuda
4.05/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A - Its nice how murky this is with a great deep amber color with a thin white head that has decent retention and a bit of lacing down the glass.

S - True to style with not a whole lot going on, but includes notes of raisins, molasses and a hint of the oak aging.

T - Oak aging is a bit more apparent to round out the huge malt flavors of caramel and dried dark fruits. Molasses are also present, and the finish has a spicy kick to it, reminding me of spiced rum in a way.

M - Full body, low carbonation, smooth and creamy across the palate. Finishes dry.

D - Good rep for the style especially with the addition of oak aging.

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Photo of The_Kriek_Freak
4.07/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Photo of Giggy
4/5  rDev +0.3%

Photo of bigpoppa67
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of Wayne17
3.5/5  rDev -12.3%

Photo of Chuckdiesel24
3.62/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

Photo of ironchefmiyagi13
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of RoryOMoore
4.25/5  rDev +6.5%

Photo of Rekrule
4.75/5  rDev +19%

Photo of PBRmeasap1980
3.85/5  rDev -3.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Photo of ChrisL24481
3.75/5  rDev -6%

Founders Curmudgeon (Old Ale) from Founders Brewing Company
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