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Founders Nemesis 2009 | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2009Founders Nemesis 2009
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Wheatwine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

Added by WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ranking:
-
Reviews:
470
Ratings:
701
pDev:
12.8%
Bros Score:
0
 
 
Wants:
184
Gots:
122
Trade:
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Ratings: 701 |  Reviews: 470
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4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of Texasfan549
3.25/5  rDev -21.5%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.12/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Bottle shared at GRG1313’s tasting.

Pours a hazy orange with a foamy orange-tan head that settles to wisps of film on top of the beer. Small dots of lace slowly drip into the remaining beer on the drink down. Smell is malt, caramel, toffee, vanilla, and bourbon aromas. Taste is much the same with vanilla and bourbon flavors on the finish. There is a mild amount of woody bitterness on the palate with each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a slightly crisp and medium bodied mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good beer with some nice aromas and great flavors.

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5/5  rDev +20.8%

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4/5  rDev -3.4%

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3.5/5  rDev -15.5%

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4/5  rDev -3.4%

Photo of Knapp85
4.95/5  rDev +19.6%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

This beer was absolutely stunning. I managed to get just one bottle for myself at Abe's Cold Beer in Bethlehem Pa. They managed to get 2 cases of this in and by the time I got there there was just one lonely bottle left. Not knowing at the time how great this beer was I was happy to at least get one to try. Now I wish I could have cases of this. I opened this bottle and poured it into a snifter. This was a beauty, the color was hazy and mid toned. The aroma was freakin unbelievable! The bourbon barrel aging gave this gem a great vanilla flavor that just hit you with every sip. Each sip was as good as the first. I can't describe how bummed I am that of all the great beers in the world and they retire this one before I can get more. Its eating me alive knowing I'll probably never get this again.

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4.5/5  rDev +8.7%

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4.04/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

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4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

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4.75/5  rDev +14.7%

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4.32/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Holy cow?! If unique is what they're after, I think they got it.

Nemesis begins with a viscous pour of deep amber-medium copper color. Building the beer, the first half of the beer gave a dull lifelessness but after rocking the bottle for the second half of the bottle, a creamy thick white head sat atop the beer in sturdy fashion. A lot of lacing is left behind while light legging is evident.

Seriously? The aromas are fan-freakin'-tastic, but only after the initial bozy aroma of straight bourbon subsides a bit (takes about a minute- had me scared there for a... well, minute) But then the caramel, toffee, maple, sorghum, molassas notes come into play. Sweet? Sure, but tempered with the softness of sweet breads, malted milk, and cotton candy. The bourbon notes persist but ride along in conjunction with the established malts and barrel aging. Do beers smell any better than this?

Flavors are every bit as complex and seductive as aromas but the power of the alcohol and hops disrupts thing too much. Additional flavors of toffee coated peanut brittle, bourbon soaked maple candy, circus peanuts and cotton candy make the beer a really special desert for alcohol-lovin' adults. Strong bitterness interrupts the elegant sweetness that makes the beer world class. Straight ethynol (bourbon) strength propels the beer from sweet and smooth into aggression and even bullying fashion. Not all is lost, those 'sweet-tooth' moments are still hiden in there... just gotta search a little harder to find'em.

The beer is malty rich, smooth and full up and finish with a part-dry, part-malt texture (think English Barleywines). Very warming, even hot at times with the fusal alcohols the beer almost nails it. Low carbonation give a cask ale-like (kinda) texture: creamy early but releasing late for drinkability.

Notice that the descriptions of wheat are not mentioned. If it were not listed on the lable, I might have missed it.

This beer is obviously intended for long-term aging. As those fusal alcohols and aggressive bitterness rounds out, the sweeter and more elegant characteristics of the beer will shine. My cellar is going to love this beer.

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4.25/5  rDev +2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks to the good doctor for this one!

Pours a tawny reddish orange, glowing in the light. A scant ring of bubbles cling to the edge, not much head. Interesting swirling patterns on the surface.

Coconut and toffee aromas, fairly sweet and confectionary.

Rich toffee, vanilla, coconut flavors, almost exclusively. Somewhat boozy in the middle and going down. Light fruity cantaloupe and oak in the aftertaste. Some fusels and woody elements, reminds me of Flossmoor's bourbon aged stuff in their heyday. Full bodied nectar. Pour this on your pancakes. Savor and sip slowly.

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4.19/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Appearance: Pours a strawberry tinted peach color with a wispy head; just a bit of lace

Smell: Curaçao, oak, butterscotch and fusel alcohol

Taste: Butterscotch and vanilla, up front, with a growing boozy Curaçao flavor developing by mid-palate; a bit of wheat and spice cake arrives with the swallow; but the finish adds an alcohol-laden peppermint character to the aftertaste

Mouthfeel: Full bodied with low carbonation

Drinkability: Very complex, but the booziness makes it tough to drink; this one still may be a few years away from its peak

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3.97/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a hazy light amber gold color ale with a small foamy head with average retention and some good lacing. Aroma of vanilla, bourbon with some sugar from the maple; a lot more complex then anticipated. Taste is also a complex mix between some residual sugar from the maple with some notes of bourbon and vanilla with a wood mix originating from the maple. Not too hot or warming but alcohol is still present with a malt body that is slightly too sweet - a full bottle is almost too much. Interesting , complex though a bit too intense to have often.

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4.17/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Poured out a clear, orange color with ruby highlights. It had a very small, thin head that left a little residue on the glass.

S - Maple syrup, bourbon and vanilla dominate the aroma. It has a muted caramel malt aroma.

T - It hits you with a boozy alcohol flavor and a sweet maple flavor. Notes of vanilla and oak.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A full-bodied beer with a powerful alcohol heat.

D - This is a really good, really strong ale. This is my third bottle of Nemesis and it gets better each time.

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3.84/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of superspak
4.52/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to jsanford for sending me this one! 12 ounce bottle into snifter. Pours a very hazy orange color with a small off white head with good retention. Minimal glass lacing, but a thin lacing cap does last for the whole glass. Aromas of strong bourbon, oak, vanilla, maple, caramel, and molasses. Huge aromas here, a bit of alcohol in there as well. Taste of huge amounts of caramel, bourbon, and vanilla on the front that transitions to smooth and sweet maple and oak on the finish with some molasses. A bit of alcohol in there as well, but it blends well with the rest of the flavor. No bitterness noticed, but a lot of sweetness present here, and there is a ton of flavor with fantastic balance. Super smooth drinking for 12%, and alcohol is extremely well hidden for the amount. Fairly mild carbonation with a huge full body. Very slick feel as well that is incredible. Overall this is just an incredible beer, I would have it again if possible.

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4/5  rDev -3.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +2.7%

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4.22/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into Bruery Snifter.

Pours hardly any off white head. Fades down fast. No lace. Color is a clear bronze hued gold with sediment in the glass.

Aroma: Tons of bourbon and oak. The maple syrup flavors are very sweet. Some of the abv shows. The aroma is very sweet. There seems to be some dried fruit flavors as well. This is a very big beer. Smells great.

Taste: HUGE bourbon flavor up front. Pretty hot. Tons of oak and vanilla flavors as well. The bourbon seems to cover up a lot of the flavor however. There is slightly dried dark fruits in the background. The maple syrup is present in the aftertaste. Very sweet aftertaste.

Mouthfeel: Smooth, creamy, and hot. Medium bodied with a medium amount of carbonation. Very warm flavor. Ends very dry and hot.

Overall, this is an interesting beer. It is huge upfront with the bourbon and some age will do it will. It is pretty drinkable considering the abv. I like it.

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3.75/5  rDev -9.4%

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4.24/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

With Nemesis 2010 arriving next week, it's finally time to try this one, now a year old. Can't wait to try it! Oh yeah, gotta thank paco1029384756 and imperialking for sending me a couple of these bad boys!

It pours almost no head, just a light fizzy covering with big bubbles, with a super hazy murky yeast filled reddish orange almost golden copper.

The nose is awesome, with tons of malts, looooaded with malts, wheat malts especially, some dark fruits, but nothing I can specifically pick out, perhaps a touch of peach or apricot, some juicy aromas too, with just a hint of bitterness. Also plenty of bourbon, some light oak and vanilla, but bourbon just right out on the nose.

Taste is very similar to the aroma, starting again with tons of malts, especially wheat, it gets very sweet too, perhaps a little too sweet. A little bit of a boozy taste, warmth, and touch of tingly feel. Also plenty bourbon, which I think is less that the nose was, but still there, bringing a little more oak and vanilla. SOme fruit, light fruit, a little apple and apricot perhaps, I think I'm just picking those out of a hat really, it's fruit but really hard to label any specifics. There are a couple of iffy flavors too. First is a strange bitterness, almost a minerality bitterness but not the same that would come from roasted malts, and doesn't seem to be from hops, but maybe a touch... some metallic flavors too. ALso there seems to be a touch of oxidation, and I wish I covered the cap with electrical tape like I usually do, but that could be from the barrel too. The finish still has a bit more of the bitterness and oxidation, but more bourbon, creamy tastes, oak, and lots more wheat and malts. Also still pretty sweet, but dries a bit, and lingering bitterness.

The mouth is heavier and slightly syrupy with low carbonation.

It has a lower but decent drinkability, with plenty of booze, very sweet, and some of that metallic bitterness, but for 12% wheat wine its actually not that bad.

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3.97/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Acquired via trade from ughsmash so a big “Thank You” goes out to him. Poured from a 12oz bottle into a US tumbler pint glass.

A: The beer is a murky dark gold color, with a thin off-white head that fades quickly and leaves a thin on the glass.

S: The aroma contains honey, wheat, caramelized malts, and a touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out with sweet flavors of honey, bourbon and caramel. Then a hearty malt character comes in along with an alcohol bite that is mild considering the actual ABV. The hops presence is mild but complementary and brings a good balance. The after-taste is slightly sweet.

M: Smooth and crisp, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

D: Tasty, goes down dangerously easily, not too filling, very strong kick, good representation of style, this is a nice, very strong beer worth drinking for as long as you can handle it.

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Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
Beer rating: 4.14 out of 5 with 701 ratings
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