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BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: Wheatwine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine.

Added by WYVYRN527 on 02-06-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
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701
Reviews:
470
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
12.86%
 
 
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183
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122
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Photo of Bierguy5
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

12 oz bottle. Pours a very clear light copper color. Thin white head disappears immediately. A few tiny bubbles rising to the surface.

A wheat like tartness with some fruit up front in the nose. A good whiff of bourbon and oak.

Just a bit of tartness up front from the wheat, with some pale malt. A nice oak, bourbon flavor comes in next. Mayple syrup fades in, just as a suggestion, and does not take over. Just a bit of earthy hop flavor at the end.

Medium body, with lower carbonation. I'm not sure how this isn't overly sweet, but it is not. The barrel aging adds great character, along with the maple. Some big warmth from the alcohol. What a beer! In a few months, or a year this is certainly world class.

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Photo of Coleybeerman
2.71/5  rDev -34.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

After a long wait of arrival, i am rather of dissapointed with outcome. Poured into a Duvel tulip, the head dissipated very quickly. Sweet aroma's of malt, slight maple and alcohol. The taste, again is rather sweet with faint maple that is masked by the big 12% abv, very boozy. I generally don't complain about high alcohol content but in this case it subtracts from my overall impression of this dissapointing offering.

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Photo of BMoney575
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Sampled on 3-7-10
Bottled on 2-3-10

Pours a completely cloudy orange/brown color, with no head and just one thin ring of lacing. A few small bubbles occasionally rise to the surface.

Smell is thick with caramel and toffee, a hint of bourbon, and decently strong alcohol. Sweet, complex, and hardcore.

Taste is just what you'd expect, strong burnt sugar and alcohol, with a buttery bourbon edge at the end. The more you drink it, the alcohol becomes more and more apparent, and it really begins to taste like bourbon.

Mouthfeel is outstanding. The extreme thickness adds to the buttery flavors and is really a high point of the experience.

Drinkability is surprisingly good, if you're experienced in drinking strong beers.

Overall, an awesome beer that I hope they make again next year.

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Photo of dedrinker
2.68/5  rDev -35%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Amber color, light amber I guess.

A nose of alcohol and sugar - caramel, maple syrup.

Flavors of maple syrup, whiskey, and alcohol.

Split one 12 oz. bottle between 3 guys, and we still didn't finish it.

C'mon beer nerds, I mean really. Is there what we're really investing our street cred in? A new generation of jock mentality childish neanderthal flavored beers? It's gross, way to fat, big, out of balance etc. and the price is through the roof! I'm sure it's costly to produce, but that doesn't make it worth it.

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Photo of elgiacomo
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Revisiting Nov 30, 2010 at about 10 months old and some age has done wonders for an already excellent brew.

Again served in a Duvel tulip. Pours amber with a whole lotta floaties and a good white head that recedes to a light foamy cap and ring leaving some spotty lacing behind.

Aroma is fantastic, I feel like I'm sticking my nose straight in the maple bourbon barrel and not a glass of beer. Also a lot of vanilla, a bit of fruit, banana and pear, some caramel, spice, some alcohol as well on the nose, very good strength.

Flavor is a delicious balance of bourbon whiskey, maple syrup, vanilla, oak, caramel, toffee, brown sugar, green raisins, spice. Alcohol burn has diminished drastically but this monster of a beer does still leave me with some warmth in my chest.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied, creamy, finishes a bit sticky, low carbonation.

This was a bit too boozy for me when fresh but really drinking very, very nice right now. Can't wait to see what additional aging will do!

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Original Review, March 7, 2010:

12oz bottled Feb 3, 2010. Served in a Duvel glass. Pours amber/copper with a very small off-white head that quickly reduces to a light ring and doesn't leave much lacing at all.

Aroma is a little quiet but improves with warming. Features caramel malts, some bourbon and oak, good dose of vanilla, a bit of spice and hops, a touch of the maple syrup.

Flavor improves on the aroma, more sweet caramel malts, maple syrup is more prominent, wood, some floral hops, vanilla, bourbon is very strong along with the alcohol, a good dose of spice on the finish. Almost a beer version of whiskey, very boozy. Interesting at the very least.

Mouthfeel is medium bodied and a bit sticky, low carbonation.

Glad to get my hands on this, good right now but not blown away, especially for the price. However, this should benefit greatly with some age and I will update the review later.

Appearance 3.5, Smell 3.5, Taste 4.0, Feel 3.5, Overall 4, Score 3.75

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Photo of Blob77
3.26/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 5 | overall: 3

founders makes excelent beer, but this "wine" was a bit too much for me. I love very strong flavored beer/wine. The Nemesis had way to much caramel flavor for me, it overpowered it. that being said it was still an enjoyable drink, defiantly a one per night kinda beverage.

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Photo of BedetheVenerable
3.23/5  rDev -21.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Presentation: 12oz brown pop top, nice label; I like the "anti-establishment beer" moniker...bottled 2/3/10.

Appearance: Dark golden brew, a ghost of sediment in suspension, hues of burnt orange when held up to the light. A medium ivory cap soon fades to a thick film and substantial ring.

Smell: Surprisingly understated for such a bruiser of an ale...lots of sweet, light maple syrup, just a hint of hot alcohol as this warms, and some light, sugary malt. I must say, now quite as beguiling or complex as I was expecting from this beer.

Taste: Really. Hot. Bourbon. Some sweet maple and vanilla creme notes as well, along with some candied fruit, with a hint of pale malt as well. I like bourbon-aged beers, but this one is ALL booze at this point. This one deserves to sit in the cellar for a year or two and get a re-review.

Mouthfeel: Heavy, boozy, a bit sharp

Drinkability: 1 at most, at least at this point

Conclusion: This needs some serious time. I think the potential's there, it just needs awhile to sort itself out. Look for a re-review of this one in six months or so (and then in six-month increments after that, perhaps)

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Photo of wchesak
4.65/5  rDev +12.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bought two bottles today (4.95 each), decided to drink one immediately. Poured into a Great Divide Yeti Snifter.
Pours a nice copper hazy color, beer is a bit hazy. Not too much of the cream white head, but inkblot lace definitely forms on the glass. Smell is amazing - like if someone cooked up maple sausage inside a warehouse full of bourbon barrels. Also a spicy, astringent, cinnamon element too. Taste is more of the same, dark caramel, laced with the sweet flavor from bourbon barrels. Aftertaste leaves an apple pie/vanilla and like 5 seconds after taking a sip of bourbon taste. Mouthfeel is not overly thick or vicious. Not much carbonation but i don't want that in this type of beer with this ABV. I wish there wasn't a two bottle limit at Whole Foods, I would have bought a bunch. This beer lives up to the hype and more. Looking forward to aging this beer and seeing what new flavors it might produce. Today is a good day.

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Photo of DefenCorps
3.56/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

I picked this up about 30 minutes back and couldn't wait to try it.

Carefully decanted, the pour is a reddish amber with great clarity. A thick, creamy, off-white head is present, retention is excellent, as is the patchy lacework.

The nose is big and sweet with plenty of maple goodness, soem bourbon, vanilla and a mild coconut character. While simple, the combination is quite excellent. The wheatwine base is a quite obscured by the barrel character, but the uniqueness of the maple bourbon character makes for an excellent beer. I do get a little biscuit and butterscotch character to go with the caramel, though.

The palate opens with a big boozy bite of bourbon, maple flavor and a nice sweetness. Far from cloying, the maple character reminds me of Canadian Breakfast Stout, plenty of flavor with no cloying sweetness. Mildly fruity with some apple and pear cider to go with the mellow caramel sweetness. Boozy and a little hot on the finish, there's a lingering vanilla and bourbon character with a definite tannic character. The tannins help cut through the big body of this beer. Soft, lush and creamy on the palate, this is an absolute treat. Thoroughly enjoyable, I'd love to see what a few years will do to this. 4.5/4.5/4/4.5/4

**Edit 06 April 2012**
Well, it's been 2 years since the release. My impressions haven't changed much - this is still big, boozy, mildly sweet with maple syrup. The nose is rather muted, apart from the rubbing alcohol. Strangely, this has gained a rather tannic character on the nose. The palate is very very buttery with butterscotch, caramel, toffee and some honey-like oxidation. Maple character is nice, especially on the palate. Oxidation has lent a rather floral note here. Not much wheatwine character, really. Still fruity, still boozy (almost to a fault). I guess I'm more of a curmudgeon now than I was 2 years back, and so I'd say my scores are 4.5/3.5/3.5/3.5/3.5. I'm changing my scores to reflect this.

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Photo of mondegreen
4.27/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a snifter. Served at 46F.

My first Wheatwine. I love Barleywine, so here we go...

A: Dark brown with absolutely no head. At all. This beer looks like a menace, like it could kick your ass in a dark alley.

S: Wow. Maple and alcohol (Bourbon) on the nose. Very very warm smelling. I get impression of maple syrup, and it's making me think pancakes.

T: Lots going on here. This thing is a beast. Where to start? Well, there is a solid sweet backbone that benefits greatly from the maple. Warm and spicy in the mouth, there is a substantial alcohol bite about halfway through that lingers long after the beer is across the palate. This is a beer to be sipped respectfully.

M: Thick without the benefit of heavy carbonation. Almost chewy it is so heavy, but it suits the style very well.

D: Do I want more? Yes. Do I want it right now? Maybe not. Either way, this beer really hits the spot, and I think any lover of huge Barleywines or other massive beers will appreciate this one.

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Photo of CrellMoset
4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. stubby bottle courtesy of afausser - thanks!! Great BA. Poured in to a 12 oz. snifter.

Appearance: Nemesis '09 pours a fairly attractive coral tangelo, thick and syrupy, and even a fairly vigorous pour - that is, as vigorous a pour as you can get for a beer this thick, it clearly didn't want to come out of the bottle - yields a thin quarter finger of sandy-colored head. The head emerges very slowly - about as slow as the faint and literally slothful effervescence that apathetically crawls up from the nucleation point at the bottom of the snifter's bowl - but fades a little quicker, leaving only a splash of surface snow and a persistent, dodgy necklace of pearly, tawny fuzz. The phrase "alcohol retarded" comes to mind.

Aroma: The lightness of this beer is apparent fairly early on. None of the usual massive, heavy, earthy notes that you're accustomed to out of a beer that's typically aged in bourbon maple barrels. No, Nemesis '09 is heavy in a different way. It's sweetly heavy, weighed down - not in a bad way - by a slew of only slightly caramelized but omnipresent sugars, sticky, rum-soaked fruits, and fantastic barrel notes. The first of those three comes across mainly as honey, though with flashes of maple (obviously) overneath brown sugar and buttery toffee. The fruits are a little fainter, heavier, hinting at bananas, oranges, and papaya, drenched in buttery, vanilla rum. Enough chemical and alcohol esters and a definite hot, spicy alcohol bring it down quite a bit.

Taste: A step up, if only because everything here is more intense. Perhaps that's the wrong reason to raise a score on something, but, hell, I like it. The barrel notes are more prominent here, relatively speaking, than they were in the nose. Strong vanilla and toasted coconut mingle with a slew of mango and banana notes, hinting at french vanilla ice cream, bananas flambé, buttery oranges, and rum-soaked papaya. It actually doesn't come across as sweet as much as it does "heavy," or perhaps the sweetness is complimented well. Either way, the rest of the malts here - light brown sugar, honey, and a metric ton of maple syrup (enhanced by the woodiness of the barrel) are well balanced among themselves as well as the other elements of this fierce brew. The bourbon is present both as a pleasant spicy, earthy presence, mingling with the light, sweet malts and the tropical, golden fruits, as well as a definite kiss of warmth - nay, spicy bourbon heat - that is the only blemish on an otherwise extraordinarily complex and tasty brew.

Mouthfeel: Nearly perfect. A thick, syrupy beer if there ever was one, but hey, you knew that was going to happen going in to it. Subtle, soft, and well-distributed but plentiful carbonation in a heavy but not cloyingly, sweet body (see above) does wonders for most elements, save the alcohol spice.

Drinkability: Nemesis '09 did indeed prove a worthy foe to my tastebuds, as well as my tolerance. At 12.0%, you won't be downing a four pack of this while watching a Braves spring training game - unless they were playing the Mets, and losing ... no, banish the thought - but I got through one fairly easily over the course of an hour or two, and it was an enjoyable sipper. "Unique" is a word that describes this beer, and indeed, a lot of what Founders has been doing lately with barrel aging. From their increasing use of maple bourbon barrels to the creativity invoked by what they're putting in them (a wheatwine? whodathunkit?), this is an envelope-pushing brew, and I truly hope that every year's Nemesis - if not the best beer you're going to have all year - will at the very least be one that makes you pause and say "what on earth IS that?" Cheers.

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Photo of Rbald42
4.29/5  rDev +4.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Recieved this in a trade from Prototypic. Thanks!

Appearance is a nice amber hue. Good clarity. Thin wispy head that quickly dissipates and leaves remnants around the rim of the glass. The smell is wonderful, strong bourbon, oak, hints of sweet molasses and getting notes of cherry. The taste is also where this beer shines, it gets better as it warms and opens up. Bourbon flavor, sweet caramel and alcohol with some mild hop notes on the back of my tongue. Mouthfeel is warm and creamy. This is an undertaking finishing just one 12oz. beer. I would struggle with a bomber. Really want more of this beer.

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Photo of DrewOSU
4.17/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Pours a dark honey, minimal suds, head dissipates fast into a shallow white swirl after initial pour. Lacing is average and oily on the side of the glass

S: Sweet honey, vanilla and bourbon tones. Smells very hot, like it should sit for another few years.

M/T: Big carbonation, the beer tastes llike it smells, an initial vanilla taste with a hot bourbon wave following it up. Very hot. Finishes dry but not clean. Very original flavor, haven't had anything like it.

D: Not a session beer. Huge alcohol and dirty after taste, this is a one bottle only beverage.

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Photo of steve8robin
2.61/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Nice extra in a trade...

A: Nothing special on the look. No head with a pink / copper murky color.

S: Smells of wine, oak, sugars with maple on the backend. Smells pretty good.

T: Super boozy! Even after it warms. Not getting much else but a rubbing alcohol type flavor. Mixed in the middle are slight bitter hops with very subtle port, oak, and maple flavors on the backend. Way too boozy. All the flavors are hidden.

M: Leaves your mouth dry immediately as if you were drinking straight vodka.

D: Goes down hard because it's like drinking hard liquor straight.

All in all, I'm not quite sure why this brew is so highly regarded. Not worth hunting unless you are looking for a hard liquor tasting brew. Otherwise, if you need hops or malts, this is not your beer. Many more that are far superior in this style. BIG disappoinment.

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Photo of danielharper
4.08/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours into my New Holland pint glass hazy brown/red with no head at all. Swirling around in the glass gives a tiny bit of soapscum, but nothing significant. Some chill haze in the glass. Considering the ABV, this is pretty much as-expected.

Smells strongly of wheat malt, crisp and clean, with a slight grainy quality. Significant alcohol astringency, hints of hops buried deep.

Taste is amazing, rich deep notes of malted wheat with hints of spicy undertones. The alcohol really starts to burn as the beer warms.

Mouthfeel is thick, with a significant carbonation that stings the tongue.

Drinkability fairly high, nice and smooth (even if it could use a bit of aging) but is this really worth the effort to obtain. New Holland's Pilgrim's Dole is just about as good and much more readily available.

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Photo of hwwty4
3.82/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured a 12oz bottle into my Dogfish head snifter. This beer pours a dark copper honey with just a slight 1-inch head that quickly disappears leaving no lacing. This feature rather surprises me. Bottle presented at 43 degrees (thank you Johnson Controls) but no head whatsoever. No lacing. The aroma is huge. Massive vanilla notes, ripe apples, a bit of hand crafted maple syrup, brown sugar, a bit of bourbon and lots of booze. The flavor is just as dynamic with fresh extracted vanilla bean leading off. Bourbon is secondary, almond, sweet malts, brown sugar, fresh oak, and just a bit of overly toasted bread. At 12% they do a good job of covering the booze but its still overly hot. I can see why they Founders intends this beer to age. I think I'm going to have to revisit Nemesis in a year or two to see how it holds up. The mouthfeel is silky smooth. They really nailed it. Creamy; leaving a wonderful, vanilla/bourbon flavor coating the mouth. I'm really shocked at the complexity of this beer. I know Founders was looking for uniqueness and they really nailed it. Don't know if I have ever had a beer quite like this one. Unfortunately, its just too boozy for me. Nemesis definitely needs some time to smooth out those rough edges. This could definitely be the next Bell's Batch 7000.

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Photo of Mitchster
4.69/5  rDev +13.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

$3.59 at Jacks for a 12oz bottle. A Maple bourbon barrel aged wheat wine. Aged for 9 months, evidently in a cave. 12% ABV. 71 IBU's.

Pours out to a cloudy burnt orange medium amber, forming a creamy white head with average retention and spotty lacing. Carbonation is very mild with a viscous pour. The aroma can be noted from an arms-length. Maple syrup up front, with lots of fruity esters, a suggestion of bourbon, sweet dark fruits like figs and dates, and when swirled, a nice mix of woodsy herbal hops and even light roast coffee and milk chocolate are evident. Wonderful aroma...very complex, but not overwhelming. The mouthfeel is oily, smooth, dense and rich with a warming in the gut as it goes down. The taste is wonderful...it's a recap of the aroma, yet it's not as rich as one would expect. Vanilla and cookies in the middle. It's wonderfully balanced, with a lingering pleasant mild bitterness. There is the suggestion of oxidation, with a faint newspaper note in the finish and some slight fusels, but considering the way this was made, it's at an acceptable level. As it warms, the vanilla, bourbon, and maple really open up.

An exceptional beer. I would highly recommend this one. Well worth it. Kudos to Founders as always for making the best beer in Michigan, bar none.

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Photo of mroberts1204
4.02/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to krtman for hooking me up with this brew!!

A - Golden, honey-like color with decent head that dissipates into a ring of thin white foam around the ring the edge of the glass.

S - Smells of honey, vanilla, bourbon, alcohol. Really intriguing. Lots of vanilla!! I have never had a beer smell like this and it begs to be tasted. Probably the best part of the beer for me.

T - The taste follows the smell. Loads of vanilla, honey, bourbon and alcohol. Sweet but fairly balanced. Very interesting and complex. The alcohol comes on a bit strong towards the end and as it warms.

M - Slightly syrupy. Good carbonation.

D - I'm having a difficult time getting this big beer down. Couldn't have more than 1 of these in a night.

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Photo of birchstick
4.32/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - pours a golden light copper with a white head that dissipates quicy

S - smells of bourbon, molasses, and hints of vanilla

T - I was instantly hit with sweet malts and loads of maple. This fades into some awesome bourbon taste. There is a lot of malt backbone as well as some vanilla. The maple and bourbon mix really well in this to create a sweet, bourbony brew.

M - mouthfeel is very smooth and medium-bodied

D - this is a fantastic brew. Not having a wheat wine before, I don't know what to compare this to, but this is obviously way more than a wheat wine. I love the bourbon, but the maple really shines in this. I am glad I was able to try this. I wonder how this will settle after some time.

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Photo of boatshoes
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Picked up a four-pack being held for me at From the Vine down in Columbus. Been excited to try it and as a side note, if you're in the area, stop by From the Vine. Picked up a lot of goodies there lately, including Black Tot.

Appearance- Pours a translucent shade of burnished copper into my New Belgium snifter. Half a finger or so of creamy beige head rises off the beer, dies down to a thin coating, and then sticks around for the rest of the drink. Mild lacing left as well.

Smell- A lot going on here. Strong notes of maple, bourbon, deep vanilla, and wood are most easily detectable. Smells quite sweet with the maple richness lending a unique quality to other smells I'm used to detecting in bourbon barrel aged beers.

Taste- Very complex, very sweet, and not a drop of alcohol detectable in this one. Again a rich overlay of maple and bourbon barrel flavors. Syrup, caramel, bourbon, vanilla, and something that I can't quite put my finger on. Almost a slight peat or smokiness, not really sure where I'm getting it though. Flavorful and very sweet, though not unbearably so.

Mouthfeel/Drinkability- Mouthfeel is surprisingly thick and smooth with just enough carbonation to keep such a rich and sweet beer moving. Though a sipper, drinkability is also surprisingly high given the ABV and sweetness.

Overall, very impressed. Founders really knows how to use a barrel, and I enjoyed this one.

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Photo of TurdFurgison
4.61/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I just picked up a 4-pack for $20.99 in Columbus. Popped the cap as soon as I got home, and holy crap but this is better than I expected. The beer is lightly hazy, pale orange-amber color, with about 1.5 fingers of off-white foam that recede to a thin film. The aroma is off-the-charts good, full of yeastie esters and notes from the barrel aging. The predominant aroma is a light maple syrup, but there's a faint bit of bourbon in there along with toffee, sweet malts, molasses, and strong esters.

The taste is just as captivating as the smell. After the first few sips I called my store to reserve another 4-pack, there's no way I'm gonna pass by the chance to drink as much of this as possible. Esters and phenols are all over the base beer, and this is about the best touch of barrel aging that I've tasted to data. The bourbon is there but added with a light touch, the maple seems predominant and is delicious. A light alcohol burn in the aftertaste reminds me that this has some potency.

The body is somewhat thick for a wheat wine, and along with the alcohol burn makes me believe this might benefit a little from aging. If I can hold off on drinking them. This is among the best Founders beers I've tried, very good.

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Photo of mdfb79
4.54/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured from a 12 oz. bottle into a pint glass.

a - Pours an orange/copper color. Absolutely no head and moderate carbonation evident.

s - Initial smell was sweet maple smell, than sugar or fruit, followed by bourbon. Also smells of vanilla and a little oak. Great mixture.

t - Again the first taste was smooth maple syrup, followed by vanilla, and then bourbon kicks in at the end. Also some tastes of oak and malts evident. A nice combination.

m - Pretty thick and bull bodied, with little carbonation. Despite being a little hot from the bourbon, actually pretty easy to drink.

d - Overall I liked this beer a lot. I think it is a great combination of maple syrup/sugar, vanilla, and bourbon in both smell and taste. It has a sweet taste up front, but it isn't too sweet, and soon your'e hit with and bourbon taste, which is mellowed out a little by the vanilla. I would definitely have this again and I think with a little time on it for the bourbon to mellow even more, this could be an amazing beer.

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Photo of beachbum1975
4.67/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Served in a chalice around 50 degrees.

Pours a cloudy, viscous, medium apricot to copper in color. A Creamy, tightly compacted head sits atop this one. I'm actually surprised by the "brightness" of this one in my glass. The head retains for a good time with small compact bubbles creeping their way to the top, when they see fit.

Wow, what a fantastic smell. Some beers take you to another planet, and this one does! I get a heavenly mix of fresh maple syrup, warm and inviting booze and a light nuttiness, almost like pecan. I can tell by the nose that this going to be a real treat.

Bourbon booze, maple, caramel, other sweet malt esthers abound. If you have a sweet tooth like I do, try this one. It's not overwhelmingly sweet at the same time. The bourbon presence missed with intermittent bitterness breaks up the sweetness. This monster is very complex and enjoyable. I can sip on this all night.

I wish they brewed this right before Thanksgiving so I could have enjoyed it with a fresh slice of pecan pie. Definitely in the top 3 of best beers of 2010 for me (so far).

@ Founder - Why must this only be brewed once? Life is not fair...

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Photo of alkchrios
3.06/5  rDev -25.7%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

I was excited to get one of these along with two other craft beers for a kate the great (yes it was a legit and great trade..abyss and sexual chocolate) I was going to save this for a while but after much consideration.. I needed to try it. Bottle is from 2009. Initial pour gave way to relatively no head what-so ever. Copper in color. The smell is absolutely amazing. Smells of sweet fruit.. almost like a fruit roll up.. oddly enough. There are also scents of caramel. At 12 percent the alcohol is rather non existent in the nose. knowing it was aged in maple bourbon barrels i am able to smell undertones of bourbon. Taste.. pretty good..nothing to really write home about. I felt as though the taste did not really reflect the smell at all. Its rather bitter and woodsy. As for mouthfeel... slightly carbonation.. finishes kind of rough.
I could drink maybe one or two snifters of these then sadly i feel id get bored with it.

Do I suggest... ehh.

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Photo of oglmcdgl
3.85/5  rDev -6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3

A- nice head comes forth from a good hard pour. Solid inch of billowy white head that settles to a simple haze. Orange yellow in color. Super clear and clean.
S- subtle maple and booze, sweet and hot. Very tempting. Some deeper complexities but very hard to pin point.
T- very nice stuff not nearly as heavy on the maple as some of the others founders has done. Sweet but not candy hot but not boozy to the max. Hops are deep in there but by no means a player. This is all about underplayed maple barrel and green wheat wine, and I love it.
M- viscous and coating. A smooth and silky wash over the tongue that almost sticks but then a bit of fizz picks it up and moves it along.
D- well this is a big one at 12 percent and very green it does show its abv. Not to say I didn't like it but it might improve with a bit of time as long as that sweetness can hold on. Thanks to onix1agr for the spltskys.

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Founders Nemesis 2009 from Founders Brewing Company
4.12 out of 5 based on 701 ratings.
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