Founders Nemesis 2010 | Founders Brewing Company

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Founders Nemesis 2010Founders Nemesis 2010
BEER INFO

Brewed by:
Founders Brewing Company
Michigan, United States
foundersbrewing.com

Style: American Barleywine

Alcohol by volume (ABV): 12.00%

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes / Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

Added by mcann2pu on 07-29-2010

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

BEER STATS
Ratings:
933
Reviews:
507
Avg:
4.12
pDev:
10.92%
 
 
Wants:
207
Gots:
262
For Trade:
12
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Ratings: 933 |  Reviews: 507
Photo of Sammy
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks Mikesgroove for this one. Pours rich black with little head. Hoppy aromas and certainly at 100 IBU at double IPA and citrus hop bitterness, and it works. It is a black double IPA. Any sense of roasted barley and chocolate malts is there, integrated but in the secondary. Marvelous though this is high alcohol and not a session but rather a fireplace beer, to be sipped.

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4/5  rDev -2.9%

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5/5  rDev +21.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

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4/5  rDev -2.9%

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4/5  rDev -2.9%

Photo of UCLABrewN84
4.54/5  rDev +10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Exiled for sending me this one!

Released around 9/2010 so this is at least over a year old at this point.

Pours an almost opaque super dark brown with a 1 inch puffy khaki head that settles to a thin cap. Nice foamy rings of lace line the glass on the drink down. Smell is of dark malt, bread, brown sugar, molasses, some dark fruits, and some citrus zest hops. This beer smells absolutely amazing. Taste is almost exactly like the smell with rich malty dark bread, brown sugar, molasses, slight dark fruits, and citrus zest on the finish. A very mild bitterness on the palate after each sip. This beer has a lower level of carbonation with a smooth and creamy mouthfeel. Overall, this is a very good barleywine with a well hidden ABV. I really enjoyed this beer and I am very glad I got to try one of these.

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4/5  rDev -2.9%

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4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

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3.75/5  rDev -9%

Photo of Knapp85
3.68/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Not knowing at first that this beers recipe changes year to year I saw last year that the Tap & Table in Emmaus had it on tap. My initial thought was that I was going to have the opportunity to have my favorite beer once again and get it on tap no less! It wasn't till I ordered the first glass and I noticed the color... It's a deep brownish black color. Instantly I knew it wasn't the same brew I had the year prior. So I did some research and saw that my favorite beer was the 2009 batch and it had been retired, it figured it'd be that way. Anyhow I proceeded to give this an honest try and I was hoping that in some way maybe this vintage would surprise me as much as the 09' batch.

It poured out as a nice black color with a tan thin head on top. The lacing was decent but nothing too great. The smell of the beer is boozy, earthy, sweet, dark fruits and malts, kind of interesting but not the Wow factor i got from the 09' batch. The taste was much more dry and earthy, there were some decent hop flavors coming through in there and plenty of malts with a dark fruit sweetness. The mouthfeel was heavy, well carbonated and slick feeling. Overall I liked it but I can't say that I loved it. I know a lot of people think the 09' batch was too sweet and they prefer this one but to me the sweetness was part of what I liked so much about it. This brew doesn't really compare at all to the other batch. They only have the same name and that's the only thing that they have in common. I'd try this one again some day if I saw it somewhere.

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4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

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4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

Photo of oriolesfan4
3.94/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Photo of metter98
3.48/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

A: The beer is very dark amber in color and poured with a minimal head.
S: There is a moderate aroma of cough syrup in the nose.
T: The taste is very similar to the smell, except that the flavor of cough syrup is even stronger.
M: It feels medium-bodied and slightly viscous on the palate with a low amount of carbonation.
D: The smell and taste of cough syrup don't make this beer one that is very easy to drink.

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Photo of BEERchitect
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A delicious and truly malty Dopplebock. This beer religates any sweetness to a supportive role in favor of toast and malts balanced with the breadth of IPA-like IPA's.

The pour delivers a dark brown beverage with a very creamy but dense viscocity. Medium (maybe light) carbonation steadily forms a froathy tan head that retains and laces very well. Dark for a Barleywine, this beers color rivals those of Porters and Brown Ales.

True malt aromas rise from the glass and give the impression of medium toast and Whoppers candies. Heavy cream and vanilla decorate the bready base while piney hops add balance and intrigue.

Toasty and malty flavors ensue with only mild sweetness but true malt. Low on fruity esters, this allows the hop profile of earthy and resiny pine notes to transition the early toast flavor into a dry and fleeting bitterness and deeply resiny linger. Tree bark, fresh cut grasses, and a gin-like spruce note can also be found as the beer warms.

Medium, maybe high creaminess at the onset but the beer soon settles into a malty-rich mid palate and fades nicely into a toasty, malty-dry finish. It's outstanding in the way this beer goes from creamy-rich-dry without waivering in it's malt character. The hop intesity grows with each sip and assists the dryness in the end. This beer remains firm yet effortless to drink- reminds me of both Celebrator Dopplebock and Stone's Arrogant Bastard.

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Photo of kojevergas
3.43/5  rDev -16.7%

BOTTLE: attractive blue label art. 2010 vintage. 12 fl oz brown glass. Branded pry-off pressure cap.

Courtesy of the very generous Duff27.

Reviewed live. Expectations are very high given the brewery and style (Backwoods Bastard might be my favourite barleywine). 12.00% ABV. 100 IBUs.

Served at fridge temp and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with extra vigor as slight undercarbonation is anticipated given the beer's age. Served into Mitchells of Lancaster stemware.

No bubble show forms as it's poured.

HEAD: One finger wide. Pale khaki colour. Consistency is great: smooth, even, thick, and creamy. Has a nice soft complexion.

Retention is good for the high ABV - about 5 minutes. No lacing sticks to the sides of the glass as the head recedes.

BODY: Dark brown-black. Opaque; no yeast particulate or hop sediment is visible.

Appears well-carbonated. Not unique or special for a barleywine, but appealing. The head is nice.

3.5

AROMA: Dark malts, cream, caramalt, schwarz malts, toffee, marshmallow, a kiss of dark fruit (mainly raisin, but maybe prune or date), and a subtle hint of oxidation - which works well here. Black strap molasses. Burnt sugars. Hints of piney hop notes. Some vanilla. Traces of resinous hop notes. A kiss of spruce on the backend, as well as a handful of mint-y herbal hops.

A pleasant aroma of mild strength.

TASTE: Fantastic. The heavy dark & schwarz malt core brings the conventional sweetness, but it's well balanced by a surprisingly assertive hop presence (at least, assertive given it's 4 years old) and touches of cream and vanilla, which mellow out the flavour profile. Faint raisin. Marshmallow.

It's well-balanced, and has some lovely flavours; the cream and the marshmallow work beautifully alongside eachother, and the subtle vanilla is lovely. The delicate hop notes lend it impressive complexity; the subtle piney, sprucey, and resinous hops fit in perfectly here. This is almost a gestalt build; it's certainly cohesive and boasts superb amplitude of flavour.

Good depth of flavour. Average duration and intensity of flavour.

No yeasty notes or spices come through in the taste. I quite like this.

TEXTURE: Nicely soft. Creamy. It's silky on the backend, but starts out smooth albeit lumpy. Full-bodied, with a lurking alcohol presence but no overt booziness or heat. Has sufficient weight and heft on the palate, enabling this big heavy texture to support the big heavy flavours. Overall presence on the palate is good; this texture complements the taste well. A bit overcarbonated.

Not oily, astringent, harsh, gushed, or scratchy.

OVERALL: It's a very drinkable barleywine which hits each note right but doesn't try for anything more. This seems like it'd make an excellent base for a bourbon-barrel aged beer. Hides its ABV well. It's a solid beer in the style from Founders, but Founders has done better. The marshmallow is a real highlight here. I wish this were still available. Very well done.

Huge thanks to Duff27 for the chance to try this.

High B-

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Photo of brentk56
3.97/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Appearance: Pours a coffee brown color with a modest, but tight-bubbled head that leaves some patchy lace behind

Smell: This is one of those beers that I could smell all day, with a big pithy grapefruit character with a chocolate/burnt caramel aspect underneath

Taste: Starts out with the burnt caramel flavor that by mid-palate is utterly destroyed by the 100 IBUs of pith and pine; the longer you swirl it in your mouth, the more intense it becomes, just assaulting every taste receptor on the tongue; the chocolate starts to appear underneath, as well, along with a hint of vanilla that leaves me wondering about a bourbon barrel influence; after the swallow, the flavors merge together but the tongue is so devastated that it is hard to recover

Mouthfeel: Medium to full body with moderate carbonation

Drinkability: More like a black double IPA than a barleywine, this one just is too much for my palate; to use the byline from another brewery who might also have brewed this beer, I guess I am not worthy

Nb: Tried this beer again in Nov 2011 and rather enjoyed it. The caramel and chocolate flavors, up front, blend nicely with the piney hops (which no longer assault the tongue)

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Photo of oline73
3.82/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of emerge077
4.05/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Black body, a reddish topaz around the edges in the light. Two fingers of tan foam that dwindles to one, and then down to a broken skim eventually. Not much lacing.

Fresh green hops and toffee first thing. Some sweet toasted creme brulee aroma too.

Rich and sweet, drinkable without getting cloying. The wet hops give it a deeply resinous hit of greenery, bittersweet roast coffee and tobacco traces in the aftertaste, with a little citrus rind from the hops. Smooth and pleasant, more of a nightcap than anything. Alcohol is perceptible now and then, but doesn't overshadow. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

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Photo of Phyl21ca
3.56/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a clear dark burgundy color ale with a rather large foamy head with good retention and good lacing. Aroma of sweet caramelized malt with light toffee notes with some earthy bitter hops. Taste is also an interesting mix between some caramelized malt with some sweet notes and a bitter earthy finish. Body is above average with good carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Well brewed though too much hops for my taste.

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Photo of largadeer
3.83/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

Thanks to brian23456 for the bottles.

Into a wide-mouthed goblet, this beer appears opaque and black, very stout-like. A finger of leather-hued head rises and then descends into a thick lingering film with scattered lacing. The nose belies the appearance, it's quite fruity and hoppy with only a hint of acidic char. The fruity aroma brings to mind raisins, black mission figs, plums and earthier fruit, while the hop profile is more citrusy and resiny. The taste took me by surprise - it's intensely bitter with a green, resiny hop character. Fruity pineapple-like esters reside behind the hop attack, along with roasted and caramelized malts and a touch of alcohol. It's rich, but not overly so; this borders on Black IPA territory, but it's got too much malt heft and barleywine fruitiness. Interesting category-defying stuff, I like it, but I couldn't drink a ton of it. The alcohol also sneaks up on you pretty quickly.

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Photo of zeff80
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Review #2000

On tap at Sycamore in Columbia, MO - $7 for a 10oz pour. Thanks, Sanford!

A - Poured an opaque, jet black color with a small, light brown head of bubbly foam. It had some decent retention and left some sticky trails of lace.

S - It smelled of sharp, spicy hops - a little piney. Good roasty malt aroma with a burnt toast nose.

T - Good bitter hop bite upon first sip. Some pine and citrusy hops. Roasty like a porter with chocolate notes and a burnt toast maltiness.

M - It was crisp, sharp and smooth. A full bodied ale with a warm alcohol punch.

D - This is really good. It blurs the lines between barleywine and black ipa.

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4/5  rDev -2.9%

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4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

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